Unexplored areas : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:43 am

When Krakatoa erupted, it lowered Earth's average temperature by a few degrees. Red Mountain's eruption caused a year of darkness; its effects could be lingering.

Oh yeah, Red Mountain's eruption during the First Era did cause climate change that affected plants as recorded by the http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/nirnroot_missive.shtml.

Sun's Death occurred near the end of Resdayn at 1E 668. http://www.imperial-library.info/pge3/other_lands.shtml, 6 centuries before.
Therefore, you have evidence that a Red Mountain eruption occurred at a time that caused frost fall in Atmora during the Merethic?

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 am

Oh yeah, Red Mountain's eruption during the First Era did cause climate change that affected plants as recorded by the http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/nirnroot_missive.shtml.

Sun's Death occurred near the end of Resdayn at 1E 668. http://www.imperial-library.info/pge3/other_lands.shtml, 6 centuries before.
Therefore, you have evidence that a Red Mountain eruption occurred at a time that caused frost fall in Atmora during the Merethic?

Not as big as the big one, at least. Looks like there was an earlier climate shift.

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:21 am

Not as big as the big one, at least. Looks like there was an earlier climate shift.

Soooooooo...you're full of it?

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:33 am

When Krakatoa erupted, it lowered Earth's average temperature by a few degrees. Red Mountain's eruption caused a year of darkness; its effects could be lingering.

You know that TES is not real life, right? A volcano in TES doesn't have to lower the temperature when it erupts.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:05 am

Soooooooo...you're full of it?

Totally uncalled for. He was only suggesting a possible explanation.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:18 pm

Not as big as the big one, at least. Looks like there was an earlier climate shift.

It think the more likely culprit was the destruction of Atmora's tower. Without reality held in place things there got screwy and everyone was forced to leave.

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:52 pm

It think the more likely culprit was the destruction of Atmora's tower. Without reality held in place things there got screwy and everyone was forced to leave.

Atmora had no Tower. There were no Elves to build it.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:18 am

Atmora had no Tower. There were no Elves to build it.

There were elves on Atmora, during the dawn. They were driven off after Auriel's victory against Lorkhan.

Auriel could not save Altmora, the Elder Wood, and it was lost to Men. They were chased south and east to Old Ehlnofey, and Lorkhan was close behind. He shattered that land into many.

-Monomyth

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:42 am

There were elves on Atmora, during the dawn. They were driven off after Auriel's victory against Lorkhan.

You see those two words? Elves. Dawn.

Yeah, built right at the same time to the gleaming Khajiit-race tower and the Eye of Argonia/Hist towers.

You're worse than an aedroth.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:14 am

You see those two words? Elves. Dawn.

Yeah, built right at the same time to the gleaming Khajiit-race tower and the Eye of Argonia/Hist towers.

You're worse than an aedroth.

Uhh...no.

In case you didn't know, the first two towers were built during the dawn. And possibly others too. It is fully possible for a tower to have been built during the dawn and destroyed right before the start of the first era.

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:49 am

Well noted. I admit the possibility. This one must learn to triple-check his sources.

the first two towers were built during the dawn. And possibly others too. It is fully possible for a tower to have been built during the dawn and destroyed right before the start of the first era.

I agree. Zero and First Tower were created by the Gods in the Dawn. The rest were built by the Mer in the Merethic.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:16 am

Uhh...no.

In case you didn't know, the first two towers were built during the dawn. And possibly others too. It is fully possible for a tower to have been built during the dawn and destroyed right before the start of the first era.

Yeah they'd totally mimic a tower which hasn't been chucked deep into Nirn. Are you perpetually in a Dragon Break?

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:12 am

I can build my own tower. I can make mine walk or fly, but does that make me a scholar, general, god?

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:34 am

Red Tower was destroyed, but Morrowind's reality doesn't seem to be shifting.

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:04 am

Red Tower was destroyed, but Morrowind's reality doesn't seem to be shifting.

I guess you missed that whole daedric invasion thing then?

Seriously, the events of Oblivion were a direct consequence of the removal of the Heart Stone from Red Mountain.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:25 am

I guess you missed that whole daedric invasion thing then?

Seriously, the events of Oblivion were a direct consequence of the removal of the Heart Stone from Red Mountain.

It still wouldn't have happened if the Emperor remained alive.

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:19 am

But the fact that he wasn't made it possible.

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:05 am

The fact that Someone arrived at Kvatch the day after yesterday made it possible.

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:48 am

And the fact that the Weir Gate used to exist at Kvatch made Kvatch a good starting point for invasion.

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:39 pm

It still wouldn't have happened if the Emperor remained alive.

But as Patrick Stewart himself told us: "The stars were right and this is the day." There is no 'if' when predestination is involved.

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:23 am

But as Patrick Stewart himself told us: "The stars were right and this is the day." There is no 'if' when predestination is involved.

Point is, even with the fall of Red Tower, the Dragonfires kept the Daedra from invading. And we're talking hypotheticals here.

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:12 am

Indeed but it did happen. The Emperor did die.

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:32 pm

It still wouldn't have happened if the Emperor remained alive.

Yes, but if the emperor died (thus de-activating White Gold) but if Red Tower was still functioning, the Oblivion crisis would have never happened.

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:16 pm

Red Mountain was still working? Not if we listen to Nu-Mantia. :poke:

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:45 pm

Red Mountain was still working? Not if we listen to Nu-Mantia. :poke:

I'm really tired...

There was supposed to be an "if" there.