Is there some sort of large expanse of mostly unexplored ocean in any direction around Tamriel? I know to the north is Atmora, to the west is Yokuda (unless there is something farther west), and south, I think, is the land of the Sload. So, any leads?

Thanks.

Hm. Good question. Surely Nirn is large enough to support several more Continents. I only know of one, of course. The one that Akavir are from... I don't know where it is, or what its name is, though. All I know is, it got attacked and attacked Tamriel back on at least one occassion.

Other continents include:

Akavir (I believe to the Northeast)
Atmora (North)
Aldmeris (Location unknown, very existance debated)
Thras (south somewhere)
Pyandonea (south)

Possibly more, but they're unknown.

According to http://www.imperial-library.info/maps/cyrodiillargelowrescr7.jpg, Thras lies almost directly west of Tamriell. To the south lies Pyandonea, which certainly isn't unexplored but non the less, very little is known about it.

But yeah, I would say most waters around Tamriell is mostly unexplored, as is the lands that might be there.
And were there ever any real exploration done in Atmora? I know there has been expeditions there, but what did they really do?

They died. They froze to death literally in only a few days. An intense amount of magical ability is needed just to survive there.

Due to scattered clues, it is thought that Akavir lies east of Tamriel and west of Yokuda, making Tamriel - Akavir - Yokuda the span of Nirn's latitude.

So let's see, that leaves the southeastern ocean untouched?

I'm looking for an area that Bethesda hasn't mentioned much about, so I can have an "empty slate" to work with without lore accuracy constrictions. For an RP, that is.

Besides Pyandonea, the entire southern portion (if we were to divide Nirn into north, central and south) is empty. So yes,t here could easily be a continent at least the size of Youkuda (new Yokuda, after it sunk) there.

In reality, Bethesda really hasn't mentioned much about anywhere except Tamriel. I mean, we assume we know where Akivar and Atmora are located, but since we actually haven't seen concrete offical maps, we can't be 100% sure. We're 90% though that they are in the places I mentioned earlier.

The dwemer had maps of the world of Nirn, IIRC---- They were technologically advanced enough to have navigated the planet, I think.

Akivir is by far larger than any of the other continents from what I can tell. The Ice Demons (I can't remeber their naems) invaded from the east, into Morrowind, and the Teseci raided in the west. The Empire also launched an invasion of the Teseci lands from the west too, so the way I see it Akivir would be like Eurasia.

they had zeppelins

Indeed--- Magickal zeppelins, with rather spacious living quarters, and all that jazz.

Zeppelins?

Quarters?

No Quarter?

I bet they had horsehair violin bows, too. The bastards.

Wasn't there a globe or map or something in Redguard? If I remember right, it was with the Dwemer Orrery or near it. It didn't show us much but we could see Pyandonea and, I think, Yokuda. It might have shown a bit of Atmora as well, but I don't rightly remember.

I made a globe of Nirn, it includes all the known continents/landmasses mentioned above. I put it all onto a globe on a scale that which I figured was a decent size for Tamriel when compared to the planet. The scale I made Tamriel leaves room for at least another huge continent, if not then a few small ones, and some could argue that I made Tamriel too large (based on the coordinates found on the Redguard map IIRC, which would make Tamriel only http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/Vality7/adan_globe.jpg big), which would leave even more room for more land.

You can find my pictures and the video here: http://vality7.googlepages.com/planetnirn

The video is to show the massive amount of ocean beyond Nirn, and if you think I made Tamriel too large in proportion to the planet, then just imagine that there is even more ocean - of course, the ocean is meant to represent the amount of space for other lands, not that there is really a giant ocean there. A few little things - Atmora possibly looks too close to Tamriel, but a lot of the white up there is cloud, and Pyandonea and stuff further south you can't really see due to the angle, but there's enough room for an Aldmeris and a south pole down there. Akavir of course, I made up, but I think it looks kinda cool, a little incomplete though - none of this is really finished. Pics and video were all taken in Nifskope btw, they probably would've been better if I had rendered them properly.


Really? Far larger than Tamriel even?


All that there says is that Akavir is to the east of Tamriel, unless you meant to say the the Tsaesci raided Tamriel from the west.

Still, those maps ahve yet to have been found.



As I stated before, this proves that Akavir is west of Yokuda and east of Tamriel. The Snake-men cause have easily passed through Yokuda to get to Tamriel since its sinking. Evidence also proves that there was an Akaviri presence on Yokuda before it sunk.




Akaviri is definitely bigger then you have ti appear. Not as large as Tamriel, bus still large. Atmora is also bigger, and is likely not directly on the north pole. I'd say Tamriel needs to be moved down more, and Atmora and Akivir need to be made bigger.

Do you have a source stating Akavir's size?

Why wouldn't Atmora be on the north pole? It seems to make sense, the same way the Antarctic continent sits on our south pole. It would be odd for it to just sit as a continent above Tamriel, though as I said, actually about 90% of what you're seeing is cloud cover, not ice/land, and with these angles you can hardly see it.

But yeh I should probably move everything south a little.

Atmora shouldn't be on the North Pole because it was once habitable by men. I agree that Akavir should be a bit bigger as well as it is the major rival to Tamriel. But that is really cool.

From what I gather, yea, I would say so. Tamriel may be this magickal center of the world, in which everyone is drawn to or whatever, but that doesn't mean its the larges Continent on Nirn. The Kamal invaded Morrowind, which most likly puts their territory somewhere realitivly close to Tamriel, because I don't see these Ice Demons arriving on this fleet of massive ships that can sail forever across the sea, but thats just me. Apparently the Teseci have also invaded Morrowind, so that makes me think maby their empire strechs a good ways across Akivir, maby along the southern half.

In Distaster at Ionith, it said that the empire island hoped their way to Akivir, so, Akivir could either be a loong ways off to the west, or mid ranger or somthing, but my personal belief is that Akivir is much larger than any of the other continents.




Hmm, thats interesting. What evidence shows they were on Yokuda before the sinking? I would figure the Ra'Gada would have something to say about that.

If you assume each Akaviri province is roughly the same size as Tamrielic ones, then it is 4/9 (or about 1/2) the size of Tamriel at least. I'd also fathom Atmora is the same size.




-http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/viveccyrus.shtml

It can thus be inferred that Yokuda was about 8/9 the size of Tamriel. However, that is only if we assume that each province of Tamriel is roughly the same size and that the Left-handed Elves controlled the entire continent. It could have very been larger.

Putting Atmora on the North pole means that the snow demons from Akavir don't have enough space. Atmora has been getting colder over time, so if it is on the North pole that would suggest that there was a time where those frost demons weren't frozen in at all.

Akavir must be big enough to support 4 warring factions and big enough so that whole area's are practically empty and ungaurded as described in Disaster at Ionith.

Akavir must also be far away enough to allow for 30 days of sailing.

Not that it matters though. Without maps all of it will be guess work.

ice demons could have very well used ice bridges to invade.

atmora could be at the north pole, which wouldn't mean much as nirn isn't earth. isn't atmora's climate a result of magic? could be the same as the jungles of cyrodiil are now temperate forests.

Maybe it was due to that nuclear winter from when Red Mountain erupted and collapsed.

No, that doesn't make sense.

I don't think they're "that kind" of ice demons. If I'm not mistaken, the "ice" part refers to them not being of ice/cold/able to control ice or anything like that, but to them being frozen in ice the bigger part (or at least some time/winter) of the year.

When Krakatoa erupted, it lowered Earth's average temperature by a few degrees. Red Mountain's eruption caused a year of darkness; its effects could be lingering.