In-game there's iron steel leather chain ebony glass etc.. weapons and armors, but i have always wondered from what material are the legion armor, palace guard, blades and other armor/weapons made of. Maybe some of you guys know, but if you don't.. then just discuss your opinion! (i started this post cuz i've seen people referring to legion guards as "iron plate/clad" but in-game the armor is stronger then steel and i don't think that the empire's finest soldiers would ware cheap iron armor..)

I just figure it is some form of steel. They have higher stats because it is a game. If you want to roleplay a reason, then it might be that the original iron ore used for those armors is mined from an area that is naturally rich in heavier elements like tungsten. This is the reason that steel from Noricum was highly prized throughout the Roman Empire.

Yeah, I would say the Legion guard armor looks iron as well. Blade armor is probably steel, well, thats because I think the Blade cuirass looks like Roman legion armor and I think that was made of steel.

Actually, the Legion and Palace Guard armors are of the same quality as steel armor- not sure why you think otherwise unless you've got mods installed.

At any rate, we can assume that Blades armor is made using different methods of making or forged steel- and that dwarven armor is probably magically-treated steel or a steel alloy. Remember- just because one suit of armor doesn't have the same AR as another, it doesn't mean that they're made out of different materials- tecniques used for making the material also count.

Chain, Iron, and Steel all use the same material (Iron ore), however, the differences occur by the quality of the material (iron armor vs. steel armor) or the technique used to make the armor (chainmail vs. steel armor.)

Maybe it's made from Imperial Legion and Palace Guards

No, I'd guess that it's made from some form of iron or steel, my reasoning being that it seems like a fairly mundane sort of armor, so I'd expect it to be made from mundane materials, and it's quite obviously at the very least metallic. Also, In Morrowind, the heavy plate armor worn by Imperial guards was reffered to as Imperial Steel, thus indicating that it's made from steel. If the stats are somewhat higher than normal steel armor, I'd guess it's either because it uses higher quality raw materials or the refining proccess is better, or the design itself allows it to provide better protection.

It would make sense for legion troops to use cheap iron armor because the cost would be much less and therefore easy to distribute en masse to the entire legion. Just my 2 septims .

what about orcish, palace guard? i can't remember other unique armors.. the one you get when you become champion of cyrodiil must be ebony.. right?? it's pretty obvious. i always saw orcish as really high quality steel or adamantium in morrowind, but in oblivion it's more mail than plate so who knows

You have a point, but in morrowind the legionnaires used steel plate armor not iron. Shouldn't they be better equipped in their home province??

EDIT: @Marss thanx for correcting me, oh and i forgot about dwarven(dwemer)!! :facepalm: that armor is heavy and it might have been forged using magic, also what about ELVEN armor?

Not necessarily, they have little threat to the home province (at least until the invasion from oblivion) and since they are effectively occupying the other provinces it would make sense that they are better equipped to defend themselves against rebellious natives.

but i don't think that they're effectively occupying the other provinces, there's unrest and now that the emperor's gone the empire's probably gonna end. (well that's what i think)

I'm not big on the lore but I was under the impression that Cyrodiil conquered the other provinces and that's why there were forts and stuff in Morrowind (Although I never played any other ES games other than OB and Morrrowind) :shrug: . Anyway I agree about the empire ending which would be a good setting for TESV imo. And if there's unrest and the empire is about to crumble then I would assume that Cyrodiil isn't going to easily let that happen in which case:

Well we'll see what happens to the empire in the next game, but i think that it was fairly weakened in other provinces cuz of the oblivion crisis.. i may be wrong though..

From what I understand the raw metals found in Tamriel that can be fashioned into weapons and armor are iron, silver, mithril, adamantium, and ebony. There's also copper, but that would be weaker than iron and apparently isn't being used, though it might be an ingredient of Dwemer alloy (the color hints as much). Every metal weapon and armor in the game must then be made from one of these raw materials.

Steel is a type of iron. So if someone says that legion armor is made from iron it could also be some kind of high quality steel.

I think orcish armor is made out of iron ore as well. It's just crafted using special Orcish forging techniques. Note that Orcs are considered to be very talented smiths and get a +10 racial bonus to the Armorer skill.

It's hard to say what Elven armor is made of, but I suspect it's some form of mithril. Since Mithril armor is a chainmail by form, perhaps Elven armor is simply plate armor made from mithril.

Daedric armor is made from magically forged ebony.

I forgot to take into account that this is ~200 years after morrowind so maybe since the provinces were more or less at peace they didn't feel the need to continue with the extra cost of steel plate and other types of more expensive armor.

Personally I can't wait until TESV though I'll probably just beat it and then come back to Oblivion while I wait for some mods to be released. That is assuming there will be a TESV (though I can't see why there wouldn't be considering the popularity of the series).

No, Oblivion does not take place 200 years after Morrowind. It's maybe 20-40 years, but it's both in the lifetime of the same emperor (though granted Oblivion mostly takes place just after his lifetime). However, the Infernal City novel takes place 200 years after Oblivion and I've heard it said that TES 5 will take place another 200 years later.

Hmm I could have sworn I read somewhere that it does take place 200 years later apparently I was misinformed.
edit: wait there's a novel? I've never heard of any elder scrolls books I'll have to look into this. I just checked the UESP and it takes place less than 10 years after so I was grossly misinformed :whistling: lol

List O' (known) materials used for making weapons and/or armor in Morrowind/Oblivion.

Leather
Iron (Steel is refined iron)
Mithral
Adamantium
Bonemold (I think it's bonemeal mixed with resin)
Chitin (bugshell)
Ebony
Volcanic Glass (that green stuff)
Madness Ore
Amber
Stahlrim (Nevermelting Ice from Solstheim)
Wolf Fur
Bear Fur
Fur (not the same as wolf/bear fur)
Silver

As for specific armors...

Dwarven, Elven, Indoril, and Her Hands armor are all made of an unspecified material, maybe an alloy or magically-treated metal.
Daedric is high-quality ebony infused with the soul of a daedra during the smithing process.
Oricsh is probably made of steel.
Palace Guard and Legion Armor from Oblivion is basically steel armor with a different look; in-game, it has the same weight, armor, and health as steel armor.
Blades armor is probably made of steel.

Hope this clears things up...

Wow, thanx guys for the info! have to go to work so i'll post something later.

I think Legion is a type of plate-steel, while blades is roman/akavir style steel.

thanx again to everyone! i don't know why it bother's me to not know what the materials of these weapons and armors are, but now that i see how many materials there are i sure hope to see ALL of them or some, including some new ones for the next game! (stahlirm will surely be back!!)

i had forgotten that daedric was high quality ebony with daedra souls forged into them.. that's freakin' cruel and cool at the same time! bliviongate: so does that mean that the weapons are "alive"?

As far as i understood it, deadric was forged with the souls of deadra before they were reincarnated on the planes of oblivion. and i suspect that elven is either magically treated wood (sounds crazy i know, but think about it. it seems plausible) or a form of mithril

So there cant be new daedric weapons? only the ones that were created before their reincarnation? lol i just confused my self

No, there can be.

It's (probably) as simple as using a summoning scroll, cast soultrap on the daedra in question, and then kill it, and then use the filled soulgem while forging the sword from high-quality Ebony.

Remember- Daedra doesn't necissarily mean the Daedric Princes- everything from Atronarchs (I think) to Dremoras are classified as "Daedra." Pretty much, if it dwells in Oblivion, it's a Daedra.

Carbon and steel? The guards armour made from combination of carbon and steel?