Unknown Race : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:25 pm

IS it at all possible that there is an unknown humanoid race in TES universe? I was just asking because I thought it would be a cool thing to base the next Elder Scrolls on.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:51 pm

yes theres a totally unexplored land to the east of Tameril some of the races living there are Known because the Emperor years ago did invaid it (akaviar if you dont know) ie a monkey people a snake people dragons ect.

Who knows what other lands there might be very little of the entire world of Nirn has been explored in the games

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:54 am

Yes. There are countless extinct races from Tamriel, Yokuda sunk before anyone on Tamriel had a chance to explore it, and Akavir is still unknown.

Topal the Pilot was enchanted with the islands
And the feathered men who lived there.
There the Niben stayed for a moon, and the bird
Men learned how to speak their own words,
And with taloned feet, to write.
In joy for their new knowledge, they made Topal
Their lord, giving him their islands for theGift.
Topal said he would return someday, but first he
Must find the passage east to Firsthold, so Far away.

This quote from Topal the pilot shows that there used to be bird-men in Cyrodill, so anything possible.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:20 pm

An nobody knows what lies on the southern hemisphere. Completely unknown.
Granted, we don't know how much space there is south of Tamreill either, but I like to think there's room for a continent or two more.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:40 am

Yes. There are countless extinct races from Tamriel, Yokuda sunk before anyone on Tamriel had a chance to explore it, and Akavir is still unknown.
This quote from Topal the pilot shows that there used to be bird-men in Cyrodill, so anything possible.

Topal also seems to have been sailing in Morrowinds Inner sea and has been seeing Orcs in High Rock before either existed. So I reckon the whole poem is a fictional travelers tale -as the genera that was popular during the 18th Century- taking place in a historical setting, written somewhere in the second half of the first Era.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:41 pm

Topal also seems to have been sailing in Morrowinds Inner sea and has been seeing Orcs in High Rock before either existed. So I reckon the whole poem is a fictional travelers tale -as the genera that was popular during the 18th Century- taking place in a historical setting, written somewhere in the second half of the first Era.

The Orcs might be the giant goblins we've heard about before :meh:
And I don't give a crap about the Inner Sea, I want my birdmen! In my eyes, they would make some of the Ayleids bird-worshipping more interesting.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:13 am

That is totally possible. Everyone knows about Akivir, but what's to the west and the north? Even further south? There's plenty of races we haven't seen and never will see. We'll never see the races of Akivir. Maybe a few scattered about in TES V would be cool. A Ka' Po' Tun wandering about, killing people take you have to take out as a quest would be very cool.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:43 pm

That is totally possible. Everyone knows about Akivir, but what's to the west and the north? Even further south? There's plenty of races we haven't seen and never will see. We'll never see the races of Akivir. Maybe a few scattered about in TES V would be cool. A Ka' Po' Tun wandering about, killing people take you have to take out as a quest would be very cool.

West? Altmeris? If Altmeris is indeed a place.
North? Atmora
South? Pyandonea
Further South? Thras

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:22 pm

West? Altmeris? If Altmeris is indeed a place.
North? Atmora
South? Pyandonea
Further South? Thras

West is Yokuda. East is Akavir. North is Atmora. South is who knows?

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:58 am

according to this old map, pyandonea is south and Aldmeris may be.

http://www.imperial-library.info/maps/map-big-tamriel1.1.jpg

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:39 pm

according to this old map, pyandonea is south and Aldmeris may be.

http://www.imperial-library.info/maps/map-big-tamriel1.1.jpg

I'll bet with Pyandonea.

Not Aldmeris however. Some support it's in southern Nirn. Others see it as the united elven people before they separated into different cultures.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:34 pm

I don't think you necessarily even need to go to exotic far-flung isles. Bloodmoon added Rieklings to the collective, the Naga were mentioned in Oblivion - I'm sure there are many lesser 'humanoid' races like this scattered around Tamriel. Valenwood, Argonia, the plains and deserts of Elsweyr - all are still largely wilderness and not really detailed by Bethesda yet.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:53 pm

I personally dont actually believe Aldmeris is an actual place on Nirn. I tend to believe it a fanciful representation of the elves' immortal existence before the creation of the world.

But then, that's just me.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:04 pm

I personally dont actually believe Aldmeris is an actual place on Nirn. I tend to believe it a fanciful representation of the elves' immortal existence before the creation of the world.

But then, that's just me.

The exact quote is: "Outside of the Dawn, and even then only in the dreamtime of its landscape, there was never a terrestrial homeland of the Elves. "Old Ehlnofey" is a magical ideal of mixed memories of the Dawn."

Which says that there was an Aldmeris, but only inside the dream time of the Dawn. Only in the Dawn the Elves were united in Aldmeris.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:34 am

Ah, I was wondering what it was that got me to thinking that. I couldn't seem to remember.

Does make you wonder where the Maormer came from though...

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:55 am

The Orcs might be the giant goblins we've heard about before :meh:
And I don't give a crap about the Inner Sea, I want my birdmen! In my eyes, they would make some of the Ayleids bird-worshipping more interesting.

Too bad a game would probaby butcher em'
Givin them wings, but not making them able to fly.
Taking away the talons so that they can wear shoes.
And so on.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:13 pm

I'll bet with Pyandonea.

Not Aldmeris however. Some support it's in southern Nirn. Others see it as the united elven people before they separated into different cultures.

Well, the thing is Pyandonea is covered in a huge fog or mist, right? So nobody really knows what's down there. Hell, the Birdmen of Cyrodill might have migrated south for all we know and are currently roosting there.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:18 pm

Well, the thing is Pyandonea is covered in a huge fog or mist, right? So nobody really knows what's down there. Hell, the Birdmen of Cyrodill might have migrated south for all we know and are currently roosting there.

nope
The maomer are described as a race of altmer looking pepole but with "chameleon" like, colourless skin. :spotted owl:
and theres always the slug like sload that could have survived after Thras sank :spotted owl:

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:58 pm

Don't they have enough races as it is? I think adding more races would not be a good thing...because the capacity of planet nirn would be exhausted...considering there are already a number of intelligent races residing on tamriel...I think the extinct races are interesting enough.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:43 am

I think that Elder Scrolls needs a new race to inhabit the planet. Maybe in the next game the main character can travel to one of the unknown continents around Nirn and find one. Maybe the main character can find some notes from the Nerevarine and battle some Akivari

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:22 am

I think that Elder Scrolls needs a new race to inhabit the planet. Maybe in the next game the main character can travel to one of the unknown continents around Nirn and find one. Maybe the main character can find some notes from the Nerevarine and battle some Akivari

there's only about 4 continents, 1 is frozen, one is destroyed, and 1 is entire dysfunctional, and one is us.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:01 am

there's only about 4 continents, 1 is frozen, one is destroyed, and 1 is entire dysfunctional, and one is us.

But how do we know that there isn't a continent beyond Akavir?

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:52 am

But how do we know that there isn't a continent beyond Akavir?

It wouldn't be beyond Akavir, it would be south of Akavir. Beyond Akavir is Yokuda, and beyond Yokuda is Tamriel.

The entire southern hemisphere is uncharted. So there's room for Aldmeris, and more.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:01 am

It wouldn't be beyond Akavir, it would be south of Akavir. Beyond Akavir is Yokuda, and beyond Yokuda is Tamriel.

The entire southern hemisphere is uncharted. So there's room for Aldmeris, and more.

I don't know about Aldmeris but there could be more elves that were never related to the Aldmer.

» Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:59 pm

The Akaviri are extremely interesting to me, yokuda sounded awsome, aldmeris i think is metaphorical, its too bad the Dwemer vanished, and I would have liked to have seen the orsimer before they were orcs.