As cool a feature as the rest indeed!
But windows are usually shut, maybe easier than the door but is there any requirements for stealth skill, lockpicking etc?
Will the there be a chance to fall off a wall, especially when jumping from wall to wall?
Will I ever work out the gremlins in my Oblivion instalment? Oh sorry, question not relevant to thread :brokencomputer:

Cheers!

since what it actually does is activate the door, the window will be locked with the same strength lock as the door, and only locked if the dor is locked.



At the moment there's no chance of falling off a wall built in, because it' remarkably easy to do it by user error alone. Getcrosshairref has to be returning a static at close range and you have to be in the air when you start climbing. This is actually hard enough to do well without the need for additional reasons for falling. Since there's active collision being aware of your route before you start with regards to overhangs etc is also quite important and not paying attention to that will see you falling. If there's a great clamour for the need to fall of walls then i'll add it but i'd suggest trying it first.

I posted on your latest youtube video and I'll post here too.
This is a wonderfull mod and all the abilities you implement and scripting you do HeX_0ff just amaze me.
Keep up the amazing work you do! :flamethrower:

That's weird, I must have dreamed that this was already a feature

I am definitely looking forward to this, even though I don't normally play a stealth character. I think it may tempt me into finally considering playing a stealthy blood-lusting, family friendly violence loving, killer ninja :ninja:

lol - it may never be if I can't get the bugs in my maths ironed out I'm beginning to wish I'd paid more attention in maths classes at uni, or been less drunk. I used to go and drink two pints of Guinness with my pal alex in the fifteen minutes between physics (9am and maths 11am). It made maths classes go by less painfully, but I suspect it hasn't done a lot for my long term memory of certain key methods.

btw, never got round to mentioning it , but I love your avatar calzo.

Yes I will! Downloading.... eh. Darn, when is OBSE19 coming out? :facepalm:
But in seriousness; then it does sound that it is covered. You just made it look easy, you sneaky thief jumping guy there


That's really cool, good call.

Can't wait, but I'll have too, wont I.

Thanks!

And I yours. In fact, maybe subconsciously, it may have had an influence on the breed of my new dog (getting it in two weeks after my holiday)

Yep, climbing takes a bit of practice, you need to learn to shift your viewpoint (especially around the top of objects) so that your're still facing the static to avoid falling off. It took me a while to get it straight and that was with understanding exactly what the code does - though i'm fairly uncoordinated when it comes to playing games, so maybe it'll be less of a challenged to the more seasoned mouse-twitcher. I'll be explaining it in the manual, but I doubt that's going to stop me getting 50,000 mails asking why people are falling off the top of objects.

Really?

If you do, you'll love them. Loki's been a constant source of delight to me for the last two years. Dallies are demanding things though - need loads of walking and loads of attention, but get it right and you'll have the perfect mix of energetic and docile. Loki always wants to play, but I can stick my hand in his mouth and he'll never so much as nibble me. He's an extraordinarily good natured dog

[censored]. I found the mod I was talking about, but it is indeed uncompatible with open cities... well, here it is anyway just in case. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1082234-rel-cdm-evening-lockdown/

This is a very nice trailer. I've been off for a while, and I come back to see climbing, stealth entrances through windows etc... This will be awesome. BTW, have you considered renaming Unecessary Violence to something more "pompous", like "Unparalleled / Unfathomed Versatility" I'm very much looking forward to trying out all these features man. Keep it up and take your time! :bowdown:

Yeah, my last dog was a Labrador, incredibly well natured, yet also incredibly lazy

How well does the climbing work with trees? Can you get to the top, then sit and snipe? Or is the collision of trees not the right shape?

We talked a bit about names in the previous thread, but I decided to stick with unnecessary violence because of the recognisability. I tagged on "taking action" as a subtitle as per a suggestion in that thread to try and suggest that it covers more than just combat now. I suspect it'll be difficult to appeal to everyone who just thinks of it as a combat mod, even though it has a lot more to offer, but hey, they'll be the ones missing out, not us

Just adding to the climbing bit, but yeah, climbing is a biiiiig deal. Very awesome! I already plan on making a Spider-Man costume. :shifty: :batman:

Also to add another question, if the window is locked, can it be lock picked?

And also, someone asked about tree climbing, Calzo, I think?

Oh, and just a thought: what about adding window-like portals in the city walls? That would be a lot of work, so perhaps someone could take up the idea.

I'l have a look at tree climbing now. It should be easy enough. I had assumed they were statics, but apparently not. I just need to find the object code for them and include that in the test. Of course trees don't have much in the way of collision I think, so it's be hard to stand on them. Maybe i'll leave the invisible climbing platform in place when you climb a tree...

yeah a locked window can be picked just like a door (since it's actually the door you're unlocking)

well, tree climbing is in but it's fairly hard. The fairly random collision makes it a bit uncertain whether branches will knock you off or help you.

Hey, whatever happened to the slapping component ? I thought you incorporated the code a long time ago.

I did, but it got lost in the rewrite along with the animation sadly

I lost a few good animations: slapping, an injured leg, a left handed attack and a headbutt that UK47 had made and sadly no longer has, along with a lot of new code when I lost a HDD last Christmas. It put me off for a while, but you have to bounce back from these things. There was a whole section to do with the slapping about setting up duels. I may revisit that if I have time and anyone happens to know where a copy of the slap animation might be...

About all the new melee attacks... how are they used? Because there is no way I could remember 30 different button combos in the middle of an intense battle. I was hoping there could be a random chance that my character will automatically use one of the special attacks it knows when I click the attack button.

I never really ever used any of the combat mods like this one and DR because it was just too many buttons to remember. This one just looks too good to pass up though. :drool:

Well, take a look at PiiiP 0.5. If you still feel the need to incorporate slapping into UV, use its animations Those were made by Howard too ( I believe we both got the same copy ).

@critterman

It's not hard really. You assign a second (UV) attack button, the each attack is performed either with your normal attack button, your UV attack button or the two pressed together. Kicking is done if you use the uv attack button (singly or together with the normal attack) while blocking.

All the additional attacks work in the same way as the vanilla ones (i.e. hold left while performing an attack to do a left power attack etc). It actually sounds more complicated than it is. If you own a multi button mouse you'll find it flows fairly intuitively. if not - well I'd suggest buying one

I'm pretty uncoordinated, as well as being an old git, and I can do it...

oooh - okay I may do just that. I'm playing with my bounty hunters at the moment (mostly to put off debugging the trig in the window code) but i'll get back on the slapping next Might make a nice addition to the taunting, and be easy enough to do. I'm not sure if I can be bothered recoding the duel stuff though - it was a pain to do last time round...

At this point, I think it'd be prudent to suggest a name change to Omnibus ...

Aren't they still a part of UV1?

unfortunately no. they were never in a released build