Oh, that is true


If we are going to make large railroad system, I can spare 5933 blocks of railroad. Which is if I'm willing to use all of my iron supply

One of you mentioned that I can place a separate spawn for myself somewhere on the map. How do I place that, and can I move it? My plan is to explore for a while before actually doing anything, and when I'm done with a session I'd like to place my spawn where I am so I can pick up where I left off when I sign in later.

Yes, it is called home marker.

Set it by typing /sethome and spawn to it by typing /home

Good to know, thanks.

Argh now I really want to play this. More motivation to get my huge amount of homework done asap I suppose.

Ugh more questions, sorry.

If I dig a tunnel, do the materials I break to create that tunnel get added to my inventory so I can fill that tunnel back up if I want to? If not, how would I go about filling up a tunnel I've made?

Yes, you can fill the tunnel by using same blocks you just mined.

I don't really care about your explanation because it was neither me nor saurok who destroyed your place. So you directed your anger at someone else. I hope action is taken against you.

We spent some time creating that outpost, and digging the moat in our other keep. A couple of hours time, and you ruined it. Face the consequences now.

If someone would like to help, I'd be willing to create a basic map of the world. What I was thinking is, if someone could tell me:

A. Exactly how far, via walking distance, each major settlement is from the spawn point and
B. Exactly what direction on a compass the settlements are from the spawn point

I could make a map that uses increments of 10 or 20 minutes to measure distance, instead of actual mi/km. It would be a crude map at first, but it would be a good start.

What do you guys think?

I would be able to do that as well.

Best way to understand our world is by exploring it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13877155/wall.jpg

Did you do that saur?

Nope.

Looks like someone griefed it again


edit - I tried to sketch out the Tornhemn area, but it is pretty hard without actually playing it.

What the [censored]. I won't be playing multiplayer for now. [censored] you, whoever you are.

I wont be playing so often now...

By doing such things you just provoke people to grief back.
If this is Neo Montreal Rebels doing, you understand that griefing us does not help at all. If this keeps going, we will scorch Neo Montreal to dust and scatter remains into Tundra wind!

I was actually thinking really crude, as in walking north 10 minutes from the spawn, seeing Location A, jotting down that Location A is 10 minutes north, then moving on further north until you get to the next location. If it's easier, you could also go to each location individually, make one of those in-game compasses that someone mentioned that points to the spawn point, then walk towards the spawn point to determine the time it takes, if you don't already know.

I'm talking simple dots on a map right now, we need to get those first before we should worry about mapping individual locations.

If you and others get the data I'll gladly put the map together.



You've all been griefed for some time now. I say, desperate times call for desperate measures.

Look at the log for the past two weeks or so and make a list of everyone who signed on. Ban every single member who is in the list in the original post of this topic but has not signed on during that time. They obviously don't plan on participating and if they do decide to, they will post in this thread again. Having them unbanned is just waiting for a potential griefer to emerge. Next, take the list made from the log and temporarily ban everyone who isn't either an active poster or a well know forum member. This includes people who have been referred here by well known members. The length of time someone has had an account doesn't matter if they only have a few hundred posts. Then temporarily ban everyone who IS an active poster or well known forum member who has been confirmed to have commited a serious act of griefing at least once, even if they said they were "sorry." We already have one user who falls under that category; mrcrazy_monkey. The admins should then decide on a specfic length of days to enforce the ban, which they will tell no one else. Make it long enough so that any griefers who think they can wait it out will either get bored and leave us alone, or not sign in because they have nothing to do, therefore raising the admins' suspicion of them. If all goes well, then the admins can deal with unbanning people as they see fit.

Is that harsh? Yes. Extremely harsh? Yes. But you guys have had this problem for a long time now and if you don't do something as harsh as I just mentioned, it will never get solved.

Time for some serious action indeed.

Next time I log in, I will start sketching map for Tornhemn area.
I have tablet at school, so I can quickly make black/white map after I done little sketches on paper.



I'm supporting this griefing counter measure.

Ok I have been watching this thread for a bit, why dont you guys get a new server then add a few members at a time then watch when the griefing starts ? Find out who was logged on wen it happened, and look for a pettern or something, because I am reading about griefing tht sounds like its pretty much daily.

But wouldn't that mean sacrificing all the work everyone's put into the locations on this server? Unless it can all be moved somehow...

Can't switch server since I believe it's been paid for up until December?

I thought there was some way to save it or something, I dont play minecraft but I think I have heared of people saving and moving not sure, if all else fails couldnt they just cheat and add items until everything is rebuilt then disable the cheat ? Also isnt there soem way to like stop people who arent admins destroying things ? Or the blocks respawn or something.

We can start a whole new map and only allow in approved members. It's something I've been considering for a while anyway. The world save is far in excess of 500mb now, and we can't manually back it up due to save corruption problems.


Saurok and Fanner, give us a time frame of the last time you left the place before the latest griefing, and the first time you saw it. I then propose we just ban anyone we don't completely trust who was on during that time frame. That has to be done by Wamp or Bone though, since I don't have server access.

Check when Fanner disconnected last night, and when he next time logged in this morning.

I don't know, I think it would be a big blow to activity and morale to start all over again. What if, instead of starting a new world and only allowing in approved members, you just banned everyone who wouldn't have made the list of trusted and approved members for the new world? Then any of those banned users can become unbanned on the current server in the same way they would have to be approved in the new one.

I'm not sure when I disconnected last night...it was around 10pm maybe? I went to bed at 11pm (GMT +1). This morning I logged on around 11am I believe. Check the logs to verify. All the times are in GMT +1.

The fresh map wouldn't be as a result of the griefing, so much as just an escape from the problems caused by such a massive save (I don't even know how much space we have on the server?). We get significant lag every time it saves, simply because there's so much data now. We think we might get some of that lost performance back with the next update though, which should fix some server bugs.