Oh yeah, that's right. My bad.



In my opinion, killing someone should be considered worse than griefing, because the killer is also stealing all or some of the items that person had on them. If someone kills someone else on this server there should be some consequences for their actions.

You know this update makes me want to just leave the server and its not even out yet. If it gets too insane Ill tip my hat and bow out.

Notch did say that he will be adding an option for servers to have PvP in the future. If that happens I can see our server using it.

@Antibody: Look at my above post. Err, double above post.

Dark Brotherhood is a starting point. Oh god the [censored] Rorschach personalities. Yep, damage being added is going to be SOOO fun... -_-

SO here's my idea of how [censored] going to go down.

1. Griefing. Some random attack is going to happen.
2. Paranoia sets in.
3. Deluded the vitims lash out against any suspected in their paranoia hoping to get back at them.
4. Retaliatory attack.
5. Construction and progress comes to a halt as the escalating grief situation gets out of hand.
6. Someone fesses up for various reasons. Most likely to escalate the conflict.
7. The whole conspiracy is blown wide open and accusations are thrown wildly and truths learned.
8. Amidst the confusion more griefing happens triggering the same [censored] all over again on an open scale.
9. Admins still ineffective in doing anything.
10. All out war and mass destruction of opposing factions sides.
11. Neutral people and/or factions are pressured to get dragged into the war.
12. Crusades against anyone not picking a side.
13. Global Server War.
14. Stupidity runs rampant.
15. People start taking it too [censored] seriously and grudges are made, friends won and lost in game. Drama ensues.
16. Admins finally go [censored] ape[censored] and come down upon the server like tiny gods indiscriminately cleansing anyone who pisses them off.
17. Some other admins object.
18. Admin war, and the rest of the remaining users are svcked into it.
19. Total escalation of conflict is now out of control as it starts to reach the forum and old grudges don't die in game.
20. For various reason player population dies off. Most people sick and tired of the never ending war.
21. With lack of server funds imminent and admins going all bezerk over right and wrong someone gets the genius idea to nuke the server prematurely.
22. The last friendly discussions break down
23. Server shuts down prematurely, vaults close, and civilization ends.
24. Gamgee sits atop a hill wondering where it all went so wrong. Writes memoirs warning future generations to learn from their mistakes. If there is a future. Wanders to the safe lands of the forum to tell tales of the lost land of BGSF minecraftia. Largely dismissed as insane rambling hermit. Those that started the end of the server lurk in the shadows with their old grudges biding their time.

HAhahaha. :celebration:

That would be interesting, but any assassins should carry around a chest, and once the person is killed, put all their dropped items in that chest as a "mark" of sorts.

Though any sneaking would be impossible considering how you can see someones name even if they are far away from you.



Same here.



I disagree with the strikes but agree with the temporary bans. With a strike system everyone will think "Oh if I kill this guy I'll still have 2 strikes left," while with an immediate temp ban the consequences are much more severe.

Of course we'd have to figure out a way to make it so that people can't just falsely accuse someone. I guess you'd have to take constant screenshots of the people around you like a paranoid maniac in constant fear of being killed.

My plan is to have the temp-ban along with the strikes. Get temp banned three times and you're out. With possible removing of strikes depending on certain factors.

I say we just feed them to the ravenous elephants.

Babylonian Law must be invoked. Any rule breaking is punishable by death, and once you die and respawn your crimes are forgiven. Muahahahah.

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Or this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJiYrRcfQo

PvP combat won't be fun to do anyway, even if both parties agree. Minecraft's not a game with combat, there are no special techniques, no way to disarm your adversary, dodge attacks, etc. It's just a matter of who manages to hit the other first, again. And again. http://www.splattercontainer.com/sctv/thumb/692.jpg

And again...and again...and again....I'm looking more forward to damage against zombies and such. Time to build a zombie fortress to stop the upcoming invasion!

It's an intense twitch fest and battle of psychological willpower. Like a Samurai fight. You generally only get one chance. I think that's pro.

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I edited a post above with the future BGSF timeline.

What I am looking forward to is PvE. I can imagine a bunch of people going dungeon delving to seek out treasures unknown. It sounds like fun. But I don't want falling damage.

I'm not really looking forward to fighting monsters in multiplayer, because if it's anything like in singleplayer, it will just be an inconvenience most of the time. "Oh boy, it's night, time to built a pillar and sit there until morning."

It sounds a lot more fun with more people. As long as you can have make places where monsters won't spawn. It would make a walled city actually useful.

It sounds a lot more fun with more people. As long as you can have make places where monsters won't spawn. It would make a walled city actually useful.

Wow... the forums just flipped the freak out. So, uh, double post.

It would be fun with people around, but when you're by yourself it would be just as inconvenient as in singleplayer. And I'm usually by myself...

Oh, man I really hope the torches in our tunnel are enough to keep them away, or else it will turn into a hellhole. Come to think of it, we should probably seal off all the "unexplored caves" they might spawn in...

Well if we really do start a new map then we won't have to worry about that. However I'm not sure if I'm ready to lose all that I've built just yet. I just started on that vault.

I wonder how long until someone builds a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3TUskvZ2Qc.... only without the trap. Like a huge monolith that funnels hundreds of monsters into the cities. :shifty:

And soon the only sound we will hear is:

SSSSSSSSSssssssssss.

AS well as the last sound we will hear. :unsure:

Have you guys heard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkibXv84WU? It's pretty cool.

And now I shall get no sleep tonight. :cold:



:laugh:

eheh... I just retextured the creeper to look like a banana

suddenly not so scary anymore

What I'd like to see when damage is in:

No PVP.
No falling damage.
Indirectly killing someone by making lava dropping on them or setting a wooden floor or anything like that should not be allowed, at least not the sense that the other player directly makes the 'accident' happen. That's some really bad griefing, since the griefed player loses all his gear and is brought back to spawn.
Creating a trap in your home that allows for another player to get himself killed should be allowed.


Maybe we should start a new map after all. Currently everyone has access to good materials, and there are people walking around with lava blocks, adminium, TNT spawned by admins, tons of iron, etc. The game would be a lot interesting if we'd have to mine for stuff again with the danger of monsters. Back to the early Aldgate days, without admins gifting everything! But without the building restrictions.

I reckon the biggest cause of death when health comes in will be people stopping to type something and then sssssssSSSSSBOOM.

Yes, I support this 100%.

Even if I hate to loose all my work at our current map.