Unofficial Minecraft Discussion XXV

Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:38 am

Hold on there, pard'ner. First we need to find a place to build the dern thing. And of course that all depends on how much to scale are we want to make it.

First things first; I need to guesstimate how high White Gold Tower is.

I think it should be somewere near the spawn, so people can see it when they come to the server. And if people die while building it, it would not take that long to get back to work.
The White Gold Tower should rise above the clouds at least.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:12 pm

I think it should be somewere near the spawn, so people can see it when they come to the server. And if people die while building it, it would not take that long to get back to work.
The White Gold Tower should rise above the clouds at least.

Yes. I was thinking that it should simply be as tall as possible.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:42 am

just bought this yesterday

one entire day of my life gone >_<

on the bright side I made a castle in a mountain
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:11 am

The server seems to be having problems right now. It's hard to connect and when I do I get disconnected a short time later.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:23 pm

It seems that you need a better computer. :spotted owl:

Anyway, I've been trying to guess the size from http://images.uesp.net//5/5b/OB-place-Imperial_City.jpg seeing as Oblivion hates me at the moment. It's also rather hard because the city doesn't seem to be to scale.

um if anyone knows the force of gravity in the oblivion world it takes (approx) 8 seconds to fall from the top of the tower to the ground

if it's like real life it's 313.92 Metres
since I'm sure the 8 seconds isn't dead on it's probably a 300m tall tower
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:02 pm

I also just bought this yesterday. I've been playing on the PC GAMER (UK) server, which is okay, but seems to have lost a huge amount of players, and the one of the only remaininh people playing is very over-protective. He launched abuse at me for gathering some sand from under the sea which he claimed to be his.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:54 pm

Alright, here's what we're going to do with White Gold Tower.

First, find a place to actually build it.

Second, measure exactly how many blocks it takes to get from the ground to the maximum build height. Take a picture of White Gold Tower, from the side, overlay a grid detailing how many blocks from top to bottom. Scale it like that.

When I built The Monument, I took an ASCII art image that I made of the sigil and used that as a blueprint- one # made one block. We could do something similar to that.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:59 pm

The server seems to be having problems right now. It's hard to connect and when I do I get disconnected a short time later.

:whisper: Wamp told me to prepare for Hmod...
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:45 am

If we're going to really build the White Gold Tower, then I suppose we're building the entire Imperial City. With actual houses where people can live.'
Maybe we should build it in the spawn?
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:52 am

If we're going to really build the White Gold Tower, then I suppose we're building the entire Imperial City. With actual houses where people can live.'
Maybe we should build it in the spawn?

I know my opinion doesn't matter since I'm not in the server :P

but that sounds like the best idea

gives people houses to hide in when they spawn and since it's a really tall tower... death by falling is a very real risk so the less of a walk from spawn probably the better
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:28 pm

Well, each block is a cubic meter in size, and I think that means we'll have to scale it down to 1:2 size. Anyone know how high the skybox is from ground level? IIRC it's 128 blocks so we may even need to scale it down to 1:3
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:54 pm

If we're going to really build the White Gold Tower, then I suppose we're building the entire Imperial City. With actual houses where people can live.'
Maybe we should build it in the spawn?

That won't happen. Wamp won't let anything tall be built at spawn. However we could ask him.

I had been planning to build Green Emperor Way and to possibly branch off from there if the Palace turned out nicely. But first things first is the tower itself.

And as for the whole making into a grid thing... I have no idea how to do that... :sweat: Care to help me out, Shadow?
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:14 pm

Well, each block is a cubic meter in size, and I think that means we'll have to scale it down to 1:2 size. Anyone know how high the skybox is from ground level? IIRC it's 128 blocks so we may even need to scale it down to 1:3


From sea level, it is 64 blocks high. I found this out exactly today by my measuring how high I could make a pyramid. I used a full stack of blocks, from about 5 blocks above sea level and I could only use 59 of the blocks in the stack.

I hope Notch doubles it eventually, and moves the clouds beyond the build level. I had a mod a while back that put clouds way up about the build level, but hasn't been updated in two months so it cannot be used with Beta.

From Adminium level to sky level it is 128 blocks. You guys could just dig a massive pit if you want the tower to look bigger :P
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:34 am

That won't happen. Wamp won't let anything tall be built at spawn. However we could ask him.

I had been planning to build Green Emperor Way and to possibly branch off from there if the Palace turned out nicely. But first things first is the tower itself.

Also wouldn't it get griefed if we built it right next to spawn?
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:33 pm

I'd probably just build the Ministry of Truth instead. But I guess what use is a floating sphere of dirt without the ability to levitate to get there?
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:55 am

Also wouldn't it get griefed if we built it right next to spawn?

Yes it would. That's another reason that I would rather not build it nearby. But if there is a good place to build it by spawn I will happily build it there.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:07 pm

That won't happen. Wamp won't let anything tall be built at spawn. However we could ask him.

I had been planning to build Green Emperor Way and to possibly branch off from there if the Palace turned out nicely. But first things first is the tower itself.

And as for the whole making into a grid thing... I have no idea how to do that... :sweat: Care to help me out, Shadow?

It's pretty easy once you wrap your head around it a bit.

Take a side-view shot (isometric would be best, by far) of the palace. Once we determine exactly how tall we can build the tower, start from either the top or the bottom, and count out as many blocks as it takes to get the entire tower built.

For example, if we have 50 blocks maximum height, make a grid 50 squares tall, and overlay it on top of a picture of the tower. That's the blueprint.

Once we get done there, we build a flat version of the tower. We then build another like an X. Once we do that, we have the tower roughed in, all we need to do it build the edges so that they're circular (at least, as circular as we can get them). Boom, perfect version of the tower.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:51 pm

I'd probably just build the Ministry of Truth instead. But I guess what use is a floating sphere of dirt without the ability to levitate to get there?

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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:53 am

It's pretty easy once you wrap your head around it a bit.

Take a side-view shot (isometric would be best, by far) of the palace. Once we determine exactly how tall we can build the tower, start from either the top or the bottom, and count out as many blocks as it takes to get the entire tower built.

For example, if we have 50 blocks maximum height, make a grid 50 squares tall, and overlay it on top of a picture of the tower. That's the blueprint.

Once we get done there, we build a flat version of the tower. We then build another like an X. Once we do that, we have the tower roughed in, all we need to do it build the edges so that they're circular (at least, as circular as we can get them). Boom, perfect version of the tower.

That sounds like it would work. Are we going to have an interior or will it just be a model?
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:16 pm

That sounds like it would work. Are we going to have an interior or will it just be a model?

I would like to make it as much like the real thing as possible. That includes interior.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:22 pm

I would like to make it as much like the real thing as possible. That includes interior.

So would I. It's going to be really challenging building the library and Ocato's quarters but ultimately it will feel great.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:14 am

If we do build the thing, we're gonna have to scale down WGT to 1:4.9 size, provided we build from ground level.
If we dig down to layer 5 (The lowest layer without adminuim) it would be 1:2.544 size. But I don't think it will look very pretty sitting in a giant hole in the ground.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:20 pm

If we do build the thing, we're gonna have to scale down WGT to 1:4.9 size, provided we build from ground level.
If we dig down to layer 5 (The lowest layer without adminuim) it would be 1:2.544 size. But I don't think it will look very pretty sitting in a giant hole in the ground.

Another option is to build it full size and have the tower be stubby.

Doing that also has the advantage of simply making it taller without having to rescale it when (if) Notch raises the height limit.
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:40 pm

I still hope to build a full scale correct Seyda Neen on my territory at some point. :)
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Post » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:58 am

A stumpy white gold tower would look a bit silly, but I think a tiny white gold tower would look sillier so I think its best to have it be a bit on the stumpy side.
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