Unofficial Minecraft Discussion XXVII : Othor Games

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:09 pm

Haud the bus!

Those walls are just the other city boundaries. The problem with Aldgate was that there was no room for expansion outside the original boundaries. Those 9 squares are the limits of where we can build without straying into occupied territory.

My suggestion: Start in the middle of the blue area marked out by Mr.E, and let it grow naturally. Individual areas can be segregated by 1-block thick inner walls. I'll be back on Sunday night, so I'll leave it up to the other mods and active builders to work out sensible segregations for the initial areas. I'd suggest an admin area (city hall etc) in the centre, and watch towers on nearby high land.

EDIT: Maybe I'm biased, living in a beautiful city build around an ancient carboniferous volcano, but NO FLATTENING THE CITY LAND!

Agreed.

Just leave nice patch of land for a Admin keep, and just start building the city.

» Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:33 am

I should add, land ain't free. I'd suggest something along the lines of:

5x5 plot: 5G (max height 5 blocks)
10x10 plot: 18G (max height 15 blocks)
20x20 plot: 75G (max height 20 blocks)

» Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:42 am

I should add, land ain't free. I'd suggest something along the lines of:

5x5 plot: 5G (max height 5 blocks)
10x10 plot: 18G (max height 15 blocks)
20x20 plot: 75G (max height 20 blocks)

By these rules, it takes ages to fill entire city. I say that first month we have 50% reduced costs for new plots.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:45 pm

By these rules, it takes ages to fill entire city. I say that first month we have 50% reduced costs for new plots.

If you think so. I'm not sure how much wealth people have been able to amass over the last month or so. Talk it over with the other mods online, and if land is going too fast just bump the price up again. I also wouldn't let people claim more than 2 or 3 plots too early on in the city's development.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:32 pm

If you think so. I'm not sure how much wealth people have been able to amass over the last month or so. Talk it over with the other mods online, and if land is going too fast just bump the price up again. I also wouldn't let people claim more than 2 or 3 plots too early on in the city's development.

Ok, it is best to offer cheap plots order to make city grow and success as community.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:31 pm

Ok, it is best to offer cheap plots order to make city grow and success as community.

ya...

I dunno about the others but especially with all the recent thefts, I'm not exactly loaded

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:50 pm

ya...

I dunno about the others but especially with all the recent thefts, I'm not exactly loaded

Same.

Since gold has little value until now. I've mined only cobble and iron. So my gold supply is rather low.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:58 pm

You DO want people to settle, right? Make the starting house free. After all, that 5x5x5 is a decidedly non-spacious 3x3x3 interior and would not be a draw to ANY established player, methinks. Newer players like myself, though, might go for something like it just to hold a couple chests... The thing is, new people don't have gold. Any gold at all.

I'd also suggest you lower the other plot prices to something like 10 and 40 respectively (with, I dunno, a 20% discount for early colonizers!), then bring out surcharges for additional lots beyond the first one.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:45 pm

They're only on land. The waterways have been left open in case of us wanting ports (Or something). Personally I think that there is way to much water in that area for us to stop the wall at every little pond.

That little wharf labelled "docks" in Mr E's map is where my resort is, so I'd rather the docks weren't build on that side. It would be more practical to have them facing West anyway, right?

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:37 pm

That little wharf labelled "docks" in Mr E's map is where my resort is, so I'd rather the docks weren't build on that side. It would be more practical to have them facing West anyway, right?

Things should change from that map anyway... I scribbled it without even having explored the land in-game!

» Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:46 am

I should add, land ain't free. I'd suggest something along the lines of:

5x5 plot: 5G (max height 5 blocks)
10x10 plot: 18G (max height 15 blocks)
20x20 plot: 75G (max height 20 blocks)

My own recommendations:
plot heights limits should be in multiples of six. six blocks is needed to make a room with a 4-block high interior.

Don't charge more than 64G or one stack for any plot.*

edit 1: *outside of the really huge ones or jointly owned plots.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:40 pm

Is the server working right now?

Edit
Never mind got in. Also so.... hmmm where should we start the city.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:05 pm

I think we should start building a large centre piece structure around which the city will be built, like a statue or monument. Surrounding said structure could be the most important buildings of the city, the bank, town palace etc. From there we could build whatever is needed. I am not very fond of the idea of designated districts for commerce and industry, I feel that would make the city feel very forced and artifiicial.

» Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:13 am

Use mossy tile and a bit of obsidian to craft a giant Creeper as the centerpiece! It's easy and easily replaceable should a better option arise.

Ref: http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/335/9/3/minecraft_creeper_1_by_deaf_elbow-d340g0v.jpg

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:51 pm

Is this city going to expand at all? The walls are huge. Who are you trying to keep out've there?

Is there an updated map?

Found the map

Also the person below me, who owns that place? Cuz I really want to get looten!

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:49 pm

Well. My house burned down. And ALL the trees got burnt down with it.....I'll, uh, I'll clean that up.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:15 pm

Wow, we really did awesome job with castle.

little more than two hours, and we have huge castle build. I can't really believe that we actually where so quick.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:38 pm

Okay, so the Admin castle (Name Pending) is finished. Next order of business is to create the Admin district's (Name Pending) Border walls.

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww316/SimpsonFly/Minecraft/javaw2011-01-0716-52-46-96.jpg

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww316/SimpsonFly/Minecraft/javaw2011-01-0716-54-24-65.jpg

» Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:45 am

Hey simpson wasn't there someone trying to hide in the picture?

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:29 pm

Try and spot me in Simpson's pictures. I am in both of them.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:34 pm

Spotted you are behind a fern,

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:12 pm

Try and spot me in Simpson's pictures. I am in both of them.

Yes you are in them. I was trying to ignore you.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:51 pm

BlahBerry refuses to return my belongings after telling me that he'll return them.

Lost to that wretched thief:

1 diamond pick
2 iron swords
5 iron picks
64 wood planks
252 torches
1 watch

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:38 pm

Okay, so the Admin castle (Name Pending) is finished. Next order of business is to create the Admin district's (Name Pending) Border walls.

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww316/SimpsonFly/Minecraft/javaw2011-01-0716-52-46-96.jpg

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww316/SimpsonFly/Minecraft/javaw2011-01-0716-54-24-65.jpg

The swords have been remade, and are now centered in the middle of the wall, though I do like the way the hilts of the first ones looked. May tweak that a little bit later, since it shouldn't cause me to have to completely remake them a third time.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:42 pm

I think the 10x10 shacks we were allowed to build is pretty lame. I mean we will never have an epic city if we expand at this rate. I think everyone should get a 20x20 plot with extra 10 squares ( or whatever) costing 1 gold block. This way we can have a real city, and not one of shacks.