[KiiSsez jdgaf Benzler]

I found a floating rock at Bal Isra that I probably recorded before. Other than that, no. I'm still doing other things, but I'll be sure to let you all know when I continue it. It's still, in all likelihood, going to be quite some time though. There are a ton of other games I never got around to that I want to play (currently playing System Shock), but I will come back to Morrowind eventually. With Skyrim reaching a final version soon enough, I'll probably take another trip there as well, since I was never able to finish it before. That's just to point out how long it could be.

[Charity Hughes]

From UESP:

Bribes are supposed to increase your Mercantile skill, but this isn't true in game. Bribes will increase your Speechcraft skill, but not your Mercantile. However, bribery is still based off your Mercantile skill, acting as an alternative to Speechcraft.

[Leanne Molloy]

Nothing can be done about that as it's hard-coded. I'm pretty sure it was brought up in the MCP threads at one point, but I don't remember anything about what was said.

It makes more sense to me that bribery increases speechcraft anyway.

[Sylvia Luciani]

from another thread:

i think the biggest issues with MPP were:

*resist paralysis value change (made it x10 more expensive)(might have been fixed in the last release)

*spell auto-calc fix (it removed fortify skill spells from the expansion merchants in an old version, though i think that was fixed in the last)

*added filtering of topics (caused an error with a morag tong quest, and filtered some telvanni quests to mouth rank, also affected LGNPC in a degree)(these might have been fixed in the last release)

*nolore filtering (removed a lot of topics from nolore npcs, so a lot of npcs with nolore really didn't have much to say)

*object name changes (i think activators had their names removed if there was nothing to activate, but that caused issues with mods that gave those activators use, like NoM)(i think lots of miscellaneous items were named to include their materials, like 'wooden', 'pewter', 'ceramic', etc. which cause mod issues)(excessive merged objects)

*one cell was renamed (i think that broke a mod)(UMP 1.6.3 had 2 cells changed)

*a few topics were changed (caused LGNPC issues)

*one npc gender was changed (forgot which, but caused a mod issue)(maybe corrected in latest)

mainly the issues were that some fixes would break mods, and it was decided that preserving compatability was more important than the fixes themselves. that and a lot of the bugfixes were more like correcting errors(issues that aren't gamebreaking) rather than bugs(which can be gamebreaking or blatent), so it's more like overcorrecting to a degree.

all versions of the patch have issues like this, but the versions before the quorn edits were acceptable since it was in development when the modding community was most active. truth be told, if you're modding or using a lot of mods, there's really not much reason to use the patch since the edits likely conflict with the vast library of mods. with all the content of new mods, the fixes to the vanilla game are really superfluous.

[Schel[Anne]FTL]

Whoa! All these patches are killing me now. While I find it very cool that projects like this still pop up every now and then, I'm seriously confused now. I'm about to start a new playthrough with my GOTY edition of the game and I would lime to make it as bug-free as possible (different patch compatibility issues included). So what exactly should I use? I was thinking about MCP and MPP 1.6.5 Beta BTB Edit, but now I discovered this thread as well. Should I use it in conjunction with MPP? What would my load order be like? What are the potential problems? It looks like it might be better to just stick with BTB's MPP, case I don't want to bump into a game-breaking bug or something midgame, having spent dozens of ours playing it... Could someone please clarify things for me? I'm completely lost now...

[Stay-C]

Well, Arsuru's still taking notes for his patch project and hasn't released it yet so...

[rae.x]

Link?


I've seen a few people say this, but is there any truth to this? I can't see most of the UMP edits conflicting. If a mod is editing vanilla content in some way for something critical, like quests, I would hope that the author would bother to correct the vanilla errors as well. Even if they didn't, wouldn't a merge sort much of it out? I really haven't dealt much with 'making things work together' as I haven't used a ton of mods that conflict in anything but leveled lists in the first place.


The OP pretty clearly states which versions are recommended. There was a cell name problem left over from BTB's version (Falvilo's Endeavor)that I pointed out to him, but he never got back to me about it, so I assume it is still present. I kinda forgot about it, honestly. I was going to edit it myself and upload it to some temporary location, but now I see a ton of empty INFO entries (that were present before his edit, but only after 1.6.3b). I'd just go and use 1.6.3b, though I've never heard of any problems from BTB's edit, I don't know what else could be left over (or if those blank INFO entries even matter) and I don't care to search at the moment.

[Jade Muggeridge]

What is it that MPP changes about the scrolls? The enchantments are seperate and the scrolls I compared seem to have the exact same names, values, weight, etc. Pretty much all the scrolls are changed in the patch. I am sure I miss something obvious.

[Mr. Allen]

I think they had the wrong mesh/icon or such assigned to them.

[Ells]

Ah you are right! Closed scrolls had a icon of a open scroll and this is fixed.

Thank you. I don't know why I havent noticed this.

[Lewis Morel]

I just noticed it the other day while removing stuff from my version of the MPP

[Tracy Byworth]

what did you remove personally? we should get a list together so we can get the offending stuff out.

[Keeley Stevens]

Just a little error in one of journal entries:

BUG: MS_Nuccius, Index 100 "I bought a cursed ring from Vodunius Nuccius so he would have enough gold to leave Morrowind. I hope I have better luck with the ring, and with my adventures in Morrowind, than he did."

FIX: MS_Nuccius, Index 100 "I bought a cursed ring from Vodunius Nuccius so he would have enough gold to leave Vvardenfell. I hope I have better luck with the ring, and with my adventures in Morrowind, than he did."

Narsis is part of the Morrowind province and Vodunius Nuccius is unhappy in Vvardenfell. He lives in Narsis and want to go there.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vodunius_Nuccius_%28quest%29

[Jessica Raven]

This mod fixes an issue reported on the official Morrowind forums.


Logitech, on 10 May 2013 - 4:33 PM, said:

Just a little error in one of journal entries:

BUG: MS_Nuccius, Index 100 "I bought a cursed ring from Vodunius Nuccius so he would have enough gold to leave Morrowind. I hope I have better luck with the ring, and with my adventures in Morrowind, than he did."

FIX: MS_Nuccius, Index 100 "I bought a cursed ring from Vodunius Nuccius so he would have enough gold to leave Vvardenfell. I hope I have better luck with the ring, and with my adventures in Morrowind, than he did."

Narsis is part of the Morrowind province and Vodunius Nuccius is unhappy in Vvardenfell. He lives in Narsis and want to go there.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vodunius_Nuccius_%28quest%29




To further alleviate the confusion regarding Vvardenfell and Morrowind i have made a slight adjustment to Darvame Hlerans dialogue
regarding Vodunious Nuccius where before she did say



................ I don't think he's happy here in Morrowind .


she now says

................ I don't think he's happy here on Vvardenfell .


Slartibartfast

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35424753/Vodunious%20Nuccius%20fix.7z

Feel free to use/modify etc.

[MARLON JOHNSON]

Thank-you for this Slartibartfast1! (and thank-you for putting a readme in it!)

[Marquis deVille]

COLLISION FIX isn't compatible with Correct UV rocks and trees, right?

[Darlene DIllow]

Is that directed to me? No they are not compatible. See my Small Mods thread, somewhere there I described how to make it yourself.

Arsuru, another fix you might want to include in your patch: http://morrowind.nexusmods.com/mods/images/42306-1-1368321706.jpg
Just a texture file. Dont know how to post direct links from nexus, pls find "Grahl Eye Fix" here:
http://morrowind.nexusmods.com/mods/42306/?tab=2&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D42306&pUp=1

[Niisha]

>Is that directed to me? No they are not compatible. See my Small Mods thread, somewhere there I described how to make it yourself.

To you, of cource. Thanks., I will check thread about this.

And may I include your grahl fix to russian Morrowind patch GFM?

[bimsy]

Yes.

[Charlotte X]

Just reporting a minor graphical glitch fixed by Spirithawke. I love patching my game and really hope to see this project finished.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1463409-skill-increase-display-and-bartered-item-icon/?p=22763625

[Vickey Martinez]

List of scripts that are not attached to anything

Spoiler

bearheartscript

colony_d_1_m

colony_e_1_i

colonyafer

colonyassassin

colonyestatetimer

colonyguards

colonynordaxe

colonynordequip

colonyreporttimer

colonyroottimer

colonyservtimer

colonytimer

corprusbeastsafe

glenmorilcaveteleport

heartfangchangescript

hunteract1script

ingmarteleport

jeleennote

jeleenscript

mockchangescript

ritualtransform

sacrificenordfemale

smugdeadscript

thirsksvenjadeath

thirskudyrfrykte

torchdayscript

torchnightscript

tracksound1script

tracksound2script

waterbottlescript

werechange2script

weredreamscript1

weredreamscript2

weredreamscript3

weretracker2script

witchnotescript

wolfgiver

abebaalattack

akula_doors

azurasstarscript

bill_fg_berwen_corp

bill_mt_calc_legit_kills

bill_mt_redeem_writs

bill_tt_bjadmund

bill_tt_dagoth_fovon

bill_tt_delvam_andarys

bill_tt_ministryheathen

bill_tt_mountkand01

bill_tt_mountkand02

bill_tt_mountkand03

bill_tt_mountkand04

bill_tt_tralas_rendas

bluescript

boethiabuildscript

bonescript

bulfimscript

corprusbeastsafe

countmonopolyvotes

counttelvannihortator

countwizardspells

da_bullnetchscript

daric_biellescript

diseasechills

diseasecorprus

diseasedampworm

diseasegreenspore

diseaserattles

diseaserockjoint

diseaserustchancre

diseaseserpiginous

diseasewtichwither

doortestwarp

dummy

dwruins_ark_lv_a

eraldilscript

example_containers

example_npc_stuff

example_npc_stuff_gold_edition

fasteddieamulet

fasteddiering

fightgnawtooth

fightstopordinators

fightstopwitches

fools_dead_check

fraldcounter

gameratscript

glathelscript

globalfixnpcs

gnisiseggminedoor

gnisiswarpdoor

hentustravel

high_fane_alert

huleeya_disposition_check

jeannescript

lettescript

main

marksmantoggle

maurriescript

menhirteluvirith

messagetest

milokey

milotravel

moveahnassi

moveandturn

movemehra

movesarandas

movesinnammu

noflee

noidle

nointruder

nothief

ouch_falsesunder

prisonsafe

pub_telaruhn_plot

racecheck

ranisscript

ratscript

ringdrarelsummoning

shashuraridoor

sheogorathblessing

shishiodirniranfights

shrinebalur

shrineboethiah

shrinevivechumility

shrinevivecmystery

skinksoul1

skinksoul2

sleepers

sound_fire

sound_fire_small

strong_build1_h

strong_build1_r

strong_build1_t

strong_build2_h

strong_build2_r

strong_build2_t

strong_build3_h

strong_build3_r

strong_build3_t

strong_build_start_h

strong_build_start_r

strong_build_start_t

strongholdwifeteleport

strongsoulcheck

strongsoulremove

strongzero

teleporttanusea

telvosteleport2

test_addsanguine

testmakepcvampire

testrefrotate

testrotate

testrotateslow

tg_lootmg

tg_lootmg2

tgdiscountscript

thieftraderscript

topicswebspinner

usetest

uupse_bagrum

vamptest

vamptest1

vamptest2

vamptest3

audiencescript1

bill_mt_calc_legit_kills

bill_mt_redeem_writs

bladefixscript

contract_calvus

dbattackscript

dbattackscriptold

dbdartscript

drothchest

drothpost

explosion_pushout

gaenortimer

getpcgold

gotojailwhendone

helsmovescript

highpocketscellcheck

holmarcellcheck

ignatiuscellcheck

ilnoricellcheck

journalistcombat

matchmakertimer

mhtransportscript

museum

plaguenerile

poisonsteam

sadrithief

scrollsales

sothasilteleport

sound_sothasparks

sound_water_break

sound_waterfall

testmoverock

therdoncellcheck

velascellcheck

vvtransportscript

warlord_ascript

weatherscript

[Andrew]

>List of scripts that are not attached to anything

Thanks!

But some of them are used. Like bluescript, councilortopicshlaalu, councilortopicsredoran, councilortopicstelvanni and some else.

Also tribunalmain is startscript. I start editing list for me.

[Ben sutton]

Many of them are global scrpts called with startscript command...

[des lynam]

List of scripts that are not attached to anything, not started by other scripts or dialog results.

Spoiler

bearheartscript

colony_d_1_m

colony_e_1_i

colonyafer

corprusbeastsafe

heartfangchangescript

hunteract1script

jeleennote

mockchangescript

sacrificenordfemale

thirsksvenjadeath

thirskudyrfrykte

torchdayscript

torchnightscript

tracksound1script

tracksound2script

waterbottlescript

werechange2script

weredreamscript1

weredreamscript2

weredreamscript3

weretracker2script

witchnotescript

wolfgiver

akula_doors

azurasstarscript

bill_fg_berwen_corp

bill_tt_bjadmund

bill_tt_dagoth_fovon

bill_tt_delvam_andarys

bill_tt_ministryheathen

bill_tt_mountkand01

bill_tt_mountkand02

bill_tt_mountkand03

bill_tt_mountkand04

bill_tt_tralas_rendas

boethiabuildscript

bulfimscript

corprusbeastsafe

da_bullnetchscript

daric_biellescript

diseasechills

diseasecorprus

diseasedampworm

diseasegreenspore

diseaserattles

diseaserockjoint

diseaserustchancre

diseaseserpiginous

diseasewtichwither

doortestwarp

dummy

dwruins_ark_lv_a

example_containers

example_npc_stuff

example_npc_stuff_gold_edition

fightgnawtooth

fightstopordinators

fools_dead_check

gameratscript

globalfixnpcs

gnisiseggminedoor

gnisiswarpdoor

high_fane_alert

huleeya_disposition_check

jeannescript

lettescript

main

marksmantoggle

menhirteluvirith

messagetest

milokey

milotravel

moveandturn

movesarandas

noflee

noidle

nointruder

nothief

ouch_falsesunder

pub_telaruhn_plot

racecheck

ranisscript

ratscript

ringdrarelsummoning

shashuraridoor

sheogorathblessing

shrinebalur

shrinevivechumility

shrinevivecmystery

sound_fire

sound_fire_small

strongzero

telvosteleport2

test_addsanguine

testmakepcvampire

testrefrotate

testrotate

testrotateslow

tgdiscountscript

thieftraderscript

usetest

uupse_bagrum

vamptest

vamptest1

vamptest2

vamptest3

audiencescript1

bladefixscript

dbattackscript

dbattackscriptold

dbdartscript

drothchest

explosion_pushout

journalistcombat

museum

plaguenerile

poisonsteam

sound_sothasparks

sound_water_break

sound_waterfall

testmoverock

weatherscript

[Tina Tupou]

bearheartscript should be added on BM_bearheart_UNIQUE.

So when player pick a heart, script add journal entry BM_BearHunt1 80 and rolf long-tooth change his Greeting 1 and his AI pack.

sound_sothasparks should be added to act. Sound_Sotha_Sparks and added in game location Sotha Sil, Dome of Serlyn when sparks and steam.

milokey already added in UUMP 1.6.5b

WitchNoteScript should be added to sc_witchnote?

drothchest should be on com_chest_02_thendas1?

PlagueNerile should be on Nerile Andaren? (contains nolore and missed journal entry).