Hi,

I have a really bad problem, a new bug I think. My game was going along nicely, when I hit the Abomb bug. I put up
with it for a long time, until I got the part of the main quest, of the defence of Bruma, where I had to gain other cities
support. In the cheydenhall oblvion gate, where I had to save Fahwill, I ran into a big problem.

Most of it stemmed from the Abomb. The quest became unfinishable due to it. So I resolved to find the fix.
So, I downloaded Wyre Bash to fix it. No problems so far; then I fixed one save file and reloaded the game.

That was when it all went to hell. The Abomb was fixed, but now my weapon use takes 3-5s to enact.
ie, it takes 3-5s to draw or swing my sword, or any weapon, while the NPC's can use their weapons
normally. So I loaded a very early save game, and the same problem was there, except the NPC was
affected also. Remember, I only fixed save game 159, the early one was #25.

So, I posted question on obvlinion hardware issues on it, no help really other than reinstall.

So, I uninstalled Wyre Bash, Python, Oblviion. I have no mods. I rebooted, and reinstalled
Oblivion, Pyhton, Wyre Bash. I also completely deleted the games/oblvion folder, and I
deleted my old saves, but kept my (unfixed) backups of my save files.

The problem is still there, and it doesn't matter what save file I load, they all have the same
bug. Even before I ran Abomb (which I have not this time).

So now my game is completely unplayable, and I suspect if I restart, I'll have the same problem.

Have you heard of this, or do you know a solution????? Please????

Check your Tweaks in the Bashed Patch...

Check your Tweaks in the Bashed Patch...

I have found an item from Vanilla Oblivion that is missing resources. The log from refscope is:

Misc. Item 0009DB31
Name: aaaObeisanceToken
Defined in Oblivion.esm

Missing resources:
(No model defined!)
(No icon defined!)

This is not game breaking, but if you do ever issue another update, you might want to fix this.

That's also likely deliberate. I think those tokens are only used to facilitate idle animations. Chances are some other tweak you applied has made it visible to be targeted by refscope, because normally you can't see them at all.

I do not use Wrye Bash.

Lights in Dark Fissure Cave (and sub caves) have a lot of lights out of the real expected location and maybe some missing. I make the Mages Guild quest "Necromancer's Moon" Sunday and noted this.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Necromancer%27s_Moon

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Dark_Fissure

I have this weird thing going on in Chorrol. Half the town is gone!

The western half past the cathedral - the wall is missing and the houses are gone, but the doors to the houses are still intact and floating in place and can be entered. No crashing or anything.

I'm not using any city mods in this load order. I clicked on a rock in that region so I could get the cell info and see what other mods are affecting and the rock was 0002643a and looking in edit that is chorrol exterior 0000084c ChorrolExterior14. So the only mods that are touching anything in this area is UOP (mostly rocks), AN Real Lights (lamps), and MMM city defenses - which could be the missing walls, but doubtful as that mod has not been updated in long while and I know I've been to chorrol since then

I'll keep looking but it is really odd.

The west side of Chorrol has a couple of cells which fall victim to the random missing landscape bug. Unless this is something that's happening repeatedly and can be reproduced, it should go away as soon as you reload the game.

The west side of Chorrol has a couple of cells which fall victim to the random missing landscape bug. Unless this is something that's happening repeatedly and can be reproduced, it should go away as soon as you reload the game.

Reloading does seem to fix it, but it also is repeating.

Well at least there is precedence.

Has Arthmoor stated you should not be seeing aaaObeisanceToken in game or around Daedric Shrine where they are used.

So question is where did you find one and what other mods are you using ?

To find out if anything is changing. Try using tes4edit and launch it then go to oblivion.esm -> misc item -> find aaaObesianceToken and look on right hand side if anyone of your mods is changing them it will be listed here. Also check the aaaPonderToken, PreachToken has well.

my advice has they should not be showing up in game or even visible once again..

some instances are not so random and can be repeat offenders

Agreed, I think http://www.uesp.net/maps/obmap/obmap.shtml?locx=-6018&locy=49096&zoom=16 is missing ground a large proportion of the times I pass through the area, but I don't think anyone's ever found a real fix (as in, preventative, as opposed to just reloading the area) for this. The couple of mods I've seen that have claimed to fix this seem to have been placebos.

Vac

I have found an item from Vanilla Oblivion that is missing resources. The log from refscope is:

Misc. Item 0009DB31
Name: aaaObeisanceToken
Defined in Oblivion.esm

Im not using the all clothing playable tweak. The token ring is still marked as "Not playable" (it doesnt show up in my inventory), but in some cases the mesh still appears. My main character doesnt seem to have this problem because he has rings equipped on both hands. Even on characters without any other rings, the token is only visible on some. My guess is that the token is only getting equipped on some characters.

Did you notice this because the game was actually trying to display the item?

I've gotten a few reports of RefScope's own tokens becoming equipped on the player somehow despite being non-playable. (RefScope's token rings don't have meshes either, so trying to display one on an actor's finger results in the big yellow warning.) One user told me this:


I haven't been able to reproduce the problem, but I've suspected that some other mod is going through inventories and equipping things it shouldn't. If it happens with other tokens besides RefScope's, I think that reinforces the theory.

Not sure exactly what you're trying to report here, but it sounds like lighting levels aren't to your liking there? If so, that's not a bug and isn't something for the UOP to need to fix.

...

Yes. That token will start showing up on dremoras inside oblivion gates after I reach level 15.

Clean it. Those records aren't supposed to be there. I wasn't aware the file hadn't been properly cleaned before release. It was supposed to have been.

Clean it. Those records aren't supposed to be there. I wasn't aware the file hadn't been properly cleaned before release. It was supposed to have been.

Time for another UOP suplimental patch? :bolt:

I had some identical to master records in the MOBS version of the USIP...don't know if that makes a difference (i.e. the MOBS version may need cleaning, but the "base" version may not).