[Relz] Unofficial Oblivion Patch 3.2.0 + Unofficial Patch Su : IV - Oblivion

» Wed May 19, 2010 7:03 am

@Hana: I've checked Tiber Septim with a few different characters and had no issue renting the room.

Huh. Then I may or may not have a problem with my install. I made sure to put this new package in the same load spot as the old one, uninstalled the UOMP's and the old UOPS, then installed this one. Looking at the Bash Installers tab and it's showing orange. Is that good, bad, normal? I realize there's always going to be conflicts with other things like the original UOP, QTP3, RAEVWD, etc.

» Wed May 19, 2010 6:30 pm

Orange means something is mismatched. Probably with one of the other mods. Check the conflicts tab and it should tell you. I would assume it's intentional as QTP3 should overwrite lots of stuff. You are using the QTP3+UOP patch, yes?

» Wed May 19, 2010 6:44 am

Is it normal that in UOMPKoTNFollowersFixScript 'Sir Geimund' written twice? Is not there should be 'Sir Gukimir'?

» Wed May 19, 2010 8:45 am

HAH! Yes, that is wrong. After all this time and nobody caught it until now? Must not be a lot of good guy characters out there

That said, it isn't really worth going through the process of updating the package for this one error.

» Wed May 19, 2010 7:50 pm

I think I found another land tear near Nornal. I approached from the north and found this:

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/AndalayBay/Oblivion/NornalTear2.jpg
http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/AndalayBay/Oblivion/NornalTear1.jpg

Now it is possible that it is mod related, but I didn't see anything in the CS.

» Wed May 19, 2010 10:09 am

I've come across a rather interesting post lately. Apparently the UOP breaks the fall damage calculations, at least, according to http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38214

Now, I'm not saying anything about the mod, as she is completely in her right to alter a single GMST setting, but to claim that the UOP is responsible for breaking this is, frankly, a bit of a stretch, especially when no compelling argument is presented. Because the fall damage is certainly unbroken in my game (I just need to fall a bit farther than before).

» Wed May 19, 2010 8:38 am

http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/FJumpFallSkillMult

According to that, Kivan actually fixed it and the explanation sounds solid enough to me that I call BS on her claims.

» Wed May 19, 2010 6:52 pm

I noticed something slightly odd. I'm running OOO, though I don't think that is affecting this. Enilroth at Morvan's Peacemakers in Anvil seems to equip items sold to him, unlike other merchants. According to the UESP he doesn't normally offer services without the UOP (I can't seem to find any reference to him in the changelog though). I looked at him in the CS with the UOP as the active file and he doesn't appear to possess a merchant chest like other merchants. Strangly he somehow doesn't get encumbered, despite my having sold a ton of stuff to him.* (not really an issue, just odd) . Is this intended, as it's my understanding the the merchant chest is what keeps items from going into the NPC's inventory?

*Note: Not really sure how this happens as IIRC he doesn't respawn, unless at some point the game removes items in his inventory that aren't initially placed there in the CS unless they're currently equipped. Anyone know anything about this?

» Wed May 19, 2010 7:24 pm

I can't recall having seen merchants who equip things you sell them but there's nothing out of the ordinary about the behavior. NPCs tend to equip the best of whatever they have, and without a chest he'll pocket stuff in his inventory instead.

The UOP doesn't edit him, but it does change his wander pack inside the store to allow him to become a working merchant.

» Wed May 19, 2010 1:52 pm

Enilroth does equip stuff you sell to him. It's probably because when the UOP fixed his wander pack, it didn't give him a merchant chest. He does look rather odd wearing the odd bits and pieces I sell to him :rofl: I don't know if it would be within the scope of the UOP to provide him a merchant chest though... It's nothing to do with any other mods - he will do this if the only thing you have installed is the UOP. Of course, without the UOP, you can't sell him stuff.

» Wed May 19, 2010 2:25 pm

It's worth fixing on some level but it's really not terribly important. I'll give him a chest but there's not a whole lot of chance that anyone will see the update in the wild for quite some time.

I had someone from the UESP site mention a mountain of new fixes, but that's been about 3 months now and they're not responding to PMs so I have no idea what the extent of them was other than a few examples of minor AI pack issues. I'm inclined to think that if we've gone 5 years without noticing it's probably too trivial to matter.

» Wed May 19, 2010 7:53 am

Agreed. Just wanted to confirm that Enilroth does wear stuff you sell to him. Did you see my earlier http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1164539-relz-unofficial-oblivion-patch-320-unofficial-patch-supplementals/page__view__findpost__p__17443517 about a possible land tear near Nornal? Once again, not urgent, but perhaps something to tuck away. If you can even confirm it that is...

» Wed May 19, 2010 6:18 am

Nope, missed the tear report. I'll check, but these things are difficult to confirm even once you're in the game. The only one I've ever seen on a regular basis is the one between Leyawiin and Bravil.

EDIT: I don't see anything in those cells that would contribute. If mods can cause this sort of thing then all bets are off on being able to fix it.

» Wed May 19, 2010 1:08 pm

Yeah, I didn't see anything in TES4Edit or the CS that indicated that it was mod related. But I don't think I found any candidates for the cause either...

» Wed May 19, 2010 7:10 am

I've a problem in the Black Flag (from the Thieves Den DLC), I've entered the second level of the Black Flag and there are no doors or ladders to leave it again. I've found this thread on the nexus http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/315285-stuck-in-the-black-flag/ it says that the "Unofficial Oblivion Patch Hotfix" merges the "DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp" into it, and so the separate SSSB.esp file has to be disabled. I've tried this and the ladders and trap doors are back. Is that the correct way to solve this problem or did I miss something?
I've the latest versions of the Unofficial Patch and of the Supplementals, here's my load order just in case, sorted with Boss:

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= Check ModsThis is a report on your currently active/merged mods.=== Active Mod Files:* 00  Oblivion.esm* 01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]* 02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]* 03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]* 04  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]* 05  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5]* 06  HorseCombatMaster.esm* **  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]* **  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]* 07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]* 08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 09  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.2]* ++  Shivering OOO.esp* **  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp* **  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp* **  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp* 0A  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]* 0B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]* 0C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]* 0D  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp* 0E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]* 0F  WindowLightingSystem.esp* 10  1em_GiveAGift.esp  [Version 1.2]* ++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]* 11  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.9]* 12  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.6.1]* 13  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.9]* 14  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]* 15  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]* 16  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]* 17  Duke Patricks - Follow That Actor.esp* 18  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp  [Version 1.8]* 19  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]* 1A  Streamline 3.1.esp* 1B  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.8]* 1C  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]* 1D  DLCHorseArmor.esp* 1E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]* 1F  DLCOrrery.esp* 20  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* **  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp* 21  DLCVileLair.esp* 22  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]* 23  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp* 24  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* **  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp* 25  DLCSpellTomes.esp* ++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* **  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp* 26  ElyndasLostDressesHGEC.esp* 27  Sinblood's Widow Dress.esp* 28  sluggosilkdancer.esp* 29  SkeuomorphT3.esp* 2A  Slof's Horses Base.esp* 2B  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp* 2C  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp* 2D  DLCThievesDen.esp* 2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]* 2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* **  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp* 30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]* 31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]* ++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]* 32  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]* ++  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33]* **  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp* 33  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]* 34  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]* **  TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp* 35  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 36  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]* **  ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp* ++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]* **  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp* 37  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]* 38  AleswellHomeQuest.esp* 39  Better Benirus Manor.esp  [Version 4.71]* 3A  Better Benirus Manor - AN Patch - Natural.esp* 3B  BravilBridgeCottage.esp  [Version 2.1]* 3C  EM_RedRoseManor.esp  [Version 1.1]* 3D  EMRedRoseAddonCOBL.esp* 3E  EM_Packdonkeys.esp  [Version 1.1]* 3F  FishermansCottage.esp  [Version 2.3]* 40  FishermansCOBLaddon.esp* 41  FishermansCottage-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 1.0.0]* 42  LakesideHome.esp  [Version 1.1]* 43  LakesideHomeCOBLaddon.esp* 44  RoxeyCottage.esp  [Version 2.1]* 45  RoxeyCottageCOBLaddon.esp* 46  WaterlilyCottage1.esp  [Version 1.1]* 47  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp* 48  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 49  Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp* 4A  DLCFrostcrag.esp* 4B  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* **  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp* 4C  Knights.esp* 4D  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]* **  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp* **  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp* 4E  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6.1]* 4F  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.2]* **  Faregyl Vwalk.esp* 50  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.9]* **  Feldscar Vwalk.esp* 51  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 52  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.7]* **  Vergayun Vwalk.esp* 53  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 54  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]* 55  xulTheHeath.esp* 56  XulEntiusGorge.esp* 57  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]* 58  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]* 59  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]* **  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp* 5A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]* 5B  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]* **  xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp* 5C  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]* 5D  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]* 5E  WaterlilyCottage-AncientYews patch.esp  [Version 1.0]* 5F  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]* 60  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]* 61  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]* 62  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]* 63  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]* **  xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp* 64  xulPantherRiver.esp* 65  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* 66  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]* **  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp* 67  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]* **  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp* 68  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]* 69  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 6A  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* **  xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp* 6B  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* **  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp* 6C  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* 6D  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]* 6E  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp* 6F  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]* 70  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.0]* **  xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp* 71  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0]* 72  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.1]* 73  Frostcrag Village.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* **  Frostcrag Village Vwalk.esp* 74  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]* ++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]* ++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]* 75  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]* 76  Birthsigns Expanded.esp  [Version 3.21.]* 77  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 4.2]* 78  DS Portable Sorters.esp  [Version 1.3]* 79  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp* ++  Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp* 7A  Soulgem Magic.esp  [Version 1.0]* 7B  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.1.1]* 7C  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2]* 7D  RenGuardOverhaul.esp* 7E  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 5]* 7F  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp* 80  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp* 81  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp  [Version 7.1]* 82  nGCD.esp* 83  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp* ++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp* 84  Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp* 85  The Versatile Adventurer.esp* ++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]* 86  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 3.1]* **  1em_Vilja OOO FCOM Fix.esp* ++  1em_Vilja_custom_hair.esp* 87  ViljainAleswell.esp  [Version 1.1]* 88  ViljainRedRoseManor.esp* 89  Companion Neeshka.esp* **  Companion Neeshka Vwalk.esp* 8A  RhiannaII.esp* ++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp* 8B  TRAP.esp* 8C  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* 8D  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]* 8E  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* 8F  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* **  Better Cities Full Vwalk.esp* 90  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* 91  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]* 92  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]* 93  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.9.1]* **  Better Imperial City Vwalk.esp* 94  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]* 95  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]* 96  Automatic Timescale.esp  [Version 1.1.1]* ++  Faction Rank Fix.esp* **  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp* ++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03]* **  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]* 97  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed May 19, 2010 8:44 am

Yes, that's the correct resolution. The separate SSSB patch was built during a time when there wasn't as great an understanding of things as there is now, so it was no longer necessary to maintain it as a special add-on.

» Wed May 19, 2010 1:07 pm

Yes, that's the correct resolution. The separate SSSB patch was built during a time when there wasn't as great an understanding of things as there is now, so it was no longer necessary to maintain it as a special add-on.

I've disabled the separate SSSB patch, however I've left it in the folder and I just discovered that in the bashed patch under Import Cells it's still checked. I suppose I should uncheck that too and perhaps delete the file from the OMOD?

» Wed May 19, 2010 7:20 am

Yes, remove it from your patch configuration and delete the file. Perhaps I need to clarify this in the readme, because the BOSS warning doesn't appear to be clear enough either.

» Wed May 19, 2010 7:59 pm

Yes, remove it from your patch configuration and delete the file. Perhaps I need to clarify this in the readme, because the BOSS warning doesn't appear to be clear enough either.

Thank you.

The boss warning is:
"Note: Not need for 'DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp' v1.0.7+"
so I supposed that while it's not needed, it wouldn't cause problems. Since OBMM doesn't allow you to delete the file since it's part of an OMOD, the easy solution was to leave it there deactivated. I had forgotten about the fact that the wrye bash also can import data from deactivated plugins.

Perhaps the warning should be:
"Delete this file! Causes problems and is no longer needed with 'DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp' v1.0.7+"
(I've learned the hard way that instructions have to be clear and should not leave any room for interpretation at all.)

Is there a reason why the SSSB file should not be removed from the Unofficial Official Mods Patch Omod?

» Wed May 19, 2010 9:25 pm

I'm Still haveing problems with Aleron Loche(Caught In The Hunt), even with UOPS 335, he won't attack Kurdon,(doesn't even have a sword) and I get stuck in the doorway. I counsled PlayerControls and Kurdon attacked me normaly, and the game thought he was dead, FormID gave me an ID fpr one of http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab289/Brozly/ScreenShot5-3.jpghttp://
TES4Edit only shows Oblivion.ESM, UOPs and Bashed Patch.
LO

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Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 underdark.esm
02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3]
03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
08 VASE - core.esm
09 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0A Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0B Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
0C Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.0]
0D TRoN.esp
** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]
** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]
0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.5]
0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp
10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.2]
++ Shivering OOO.esp
11 Better Cities .esp
12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
14 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
15 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FranDarkSeducerWeapFix.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
16 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
17 Fran Armor Add-on.esp
18 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
19 FranOBSEConfig.esp [Version 0.5]
1A Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp
1B All Natural.esp [Version 1.3]
1C All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3]
++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
1D All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3]
1E Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
1F P1DseeYouSleep.esp
20 RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.9]
21 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7]
22 DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
23 Display Stats.esp [Version 1.3.1]
24 FormID Finder4.esp
25 Get Wet.esp
26 kuerteeActorDetails.esp
27 kuerteeCleanUp.esp
28 Streamline 3.1.esp
29 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9]
2A Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
2B Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
2C Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
2D Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs.esp
2E Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp
2F DarkWoods_Weapons_Armor.esp
30 tda_Armoury.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
31 Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp [Version 1.03]
32 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]
33 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
34 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
35 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
36 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
37 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
38 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
39 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]
3A ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
++ Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs - Armamentarium piggyback.esp
3B OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
3C FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls.esp [Version 1.1]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3E FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_NoSpiders.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3F Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse RuneSkull OOO Loot.esp
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp [Version 2]
++ FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp [Version 2]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
** Fransfemale.esp
41 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
42 Amen'thalas.esp
43 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
** ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
44 Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp
45 DarknessHollows.esp
46 DragonInvasion.esp
47 Hentai Mania.esp
++ FCOM_Hentai Mania.esp [Version 0.8]
48 Peruggia's Passage.esp
49 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3.2]
4A VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.5.1]
4B Knights.esp
4C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
4D Mighty Umbra.esp
4E The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
4F AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.2.COBL]
50 MannimarcoComplete.esp
51 MannimarcoRevisited.esp
52 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]
++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
53 FCOM_DulanCult.esp [Version 0.9.9]
54 Wellspring Vale.esp
55 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.09]
++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]
56 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
57 Automagic Bags.esp
58 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
59 Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp [Version 1.2]
5A Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp
5B Soulgem Magic.esp [Version 1.0]
5C RefScope.esp [Version 2.0.2]
5D SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
5E SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.78]
5F Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
** _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
60 IDKRRR_C_race.esp
61 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 3.1]
62 Sonia.esp
63 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]
64 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.9.0]
65 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]
66 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.0]
67 Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp [Version 4.8.4]
68 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]
69 TheOubliette.esp
** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
6A UnderdarkSaga.esp
6B UnderdarkMap.esp
6C Companion Compatibility.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
6D Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
++ OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp [Version 1.00]
++ All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3]
6E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

*OBSE log

Spoiler

OBSE: initialize (version = 20.5 010201A0)
oblivion root = C:\Games\Oblivion\
plugin directory = C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\
checking plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\ConScribe.dll
SetOpcodeBase 000025A0
RegisterCommand Scribe (25A0)
RegisterCommand RegisterLog (25A1)
RegisterCommand UnregisterLog (25A2)
RegisterCommand GetRegisteredLogNames (25A3)
RegisterCommand ReadFromLog (25A4)
RegisterCommand GetLogLineCount (25A5)
RegisterCommand DeleteLinesFromLog (25A6)
plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\ConScribe.dll (00000001 ConScribe 00000009) loaded correctly
checking plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\FastExit2.dll
plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\FastExit2.dll (00000001 FastExit 00000002) loaded correctly
checking plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBGEv2.dll
SetOpcodeBase 00002100
RegisterCommand GetAvailableGraphicsMemory (2100)
RegisterCommand GetScreenWidth (2101)
RegisterCommand GetScreenHeight (2102)
RegisterCommand LoadShader (2103)
RegisterCommand ApplyFullscreenShader (2104)
RegisterCommand RemoveFullscreenShader (2105)
RegisterCommand SetShaderInt (2106)
RegisterCommand SetShaderFloat (2107)
RegisterCommand SetShaderVector (2108)
RegisterCommand SetShaderTexture (2109)
RegisterCommand ForceGraphicsReset (210A)
RegisterCommand LoadTexture (210B)
RegisterCommand FreeTexture (210C)
RegisterCommand CreateHUDElement (210D)
RegisterCommand SetHUDElementTexture (210E)
RegisterCommand SetHUDElementColour (210F)
RegisterCommand SetHUDElementPosition (2110)
RegisterCommand SetHUDElementScale (2111)
RegisterCommand SetHUDElementRotation (2112)
RegisterCommand PurgeManagedTextures (2113)
plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBGEv2.dll (00000001 OBGEv2 00000002) loaded correctly
checking plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll
plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll (00000001 OBSE_Elys_Uncapper 0000005E) loaded correctly
checking plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll
SetOpcodeBase 000025D0
RegisterCommand mqSetMessageBoxSource (25D0)
RegisterCommand mqGetSelectedClass (25D1)
RegisterCommand mqGetHighlightedClass (25D2)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuTileChildren (25D3)
RegisterCommand mqGetEnchMenuBaseItem (25D4)
RegisterCommand mqGetMapMarkers (25D5)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildFloatValue (25D6)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildStringValue (25D7)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildFloatValue (25D8)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildStringValue (25D9)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildHasTrait (25DA)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildName (25DB)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildCount (25DC)
RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuFloatValue (25DD)
RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuStringValue (25DE)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveFloatValue (25DF)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveStringValue (25E0)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveFloatValue (25E1)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveStringValue (25E2)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveChildIndex (25E3)
RegisterCommand InsertXML (25E4)
RegisterCommand mqGetCurrentQuests (25E5)
RegisterCommand mqGetCompletedQuests (25E6)
RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuest (25E7)
RegisterCommand mqSetActiveQuest (25E8)
RegisterCommand mqGetQuestCompleted (25E9)
RegisterCommand mqUncompleteQuest (25EA)
RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuestTargets (25EB)
RegisterCommand InsertXMLTemplate (25EC)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuGlobalStringValue (25ED)
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuGlobalStringValue (25EE)
SetOpcodeBase 000026B0
RegisterCommand mqSetMenuGlobalFloatValue (26B0)
RegisterCommand mqGetMenuGlobalFloatValue (26B1)
RegisterCommand ShowGenericMenu (26B2)
RegisterCommand ShowMagicPopupMenu (26B3)
RegisterCommand ShowTrainingMenu (26B4)
RegisterCommand GetGenericButtonPressed (26B5)
RegisterCommand SetMenuEventHandler (26B6)
RegisterCommand RemoveMenuEventHandler (26B7)
RegisterCommand GetMenuEventType (26B8)
RegisterCommand GetFontLoaded (26B9)
RegisterCommand UpdateLocalMap (26BA)
RegisterCommand GetLocalMapSeen (26BB)
RegisterCommand GetWorldMapData (26BC)
RegisterCommand IsTextEditInUse (26BD)
RegisterCommand GetMousePos (26BE)
RegisterCommand SetWorldMapData (26BF)
RegisterCommand GetWorldMapDoorway (26C0)
RegisterCommand GetTextEditString (26C1)
RegisterCommand GetMousePosInText (26C2)
plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll (00000002 OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue 00000009) loaded correctly
checking plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll
plugin C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll (00000001 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover 0000411A) loaded correctly
patched
loading from C:\Users\Brozly\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\MoonShadow\Save 108 - Moony - The Heartlands, Level 4, Playing Time 40.43.09.obse
Reading mod list from co-save
Loading strings
WARNING: substantial numbers of string variables exist for the following files (may indicate savegame bloat):
Automagic Bags.esp (204 strings)
Loading array variables
plugin has data in save file but no handler
plugin has data in save file but no handler
DoLoadGameHook: C:\Users\Brozly\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\MoonShadow\Save 108 - Moony - The Heartlands, Level 4, Playing Time 40.43.09.ess
loading from C:\Users\Brozly\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\MoonShadow\Save 108 - Moony - The Heartlands, Level 4, Playing Time 40.43.09.obse
plugin did not read all of its data (at 000000000000D56C expected 000000000000D56D)
**
Dumping Array #7 **
Refs: 1 Owner 24: FormID Finder4.esp
[ 0.000000 ] : B Braided Leather Sandals (0002B90D)
[ 1.000000 ] : C Fishing Waders (0002ECAC)
**
Dumping Array #7 **
Refs: 1 Owner 24: FormID Finder4.esp
[ 0.000000 ] : B Braided Leather Sandals (0002B90D)
[ 1.000000 ] : C Fishing Waders (0002ECAC)

» Wed May 19, 2010 6:56 am

I hope this wasn't asked already. I'm starting a new character and revisiting my mod list.

Are these fixes still relevant?

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30291 [3 March 2010]
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30350 [7 March 2010]
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14783 [8 February 2008]
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2106 [3 April 2006] (Given the age, I would hope so).

Thanks!

» Wed May 19, 2010 1:32 pm

@Brozly: I officially hate that quest now. Sadly, there is nothing more I can do with it if it refuses to behave itself. I can't find any reason for it to still be broken.

@speekyg869: The two badmagic fixes and the Fathis fix are covered. That niben river fix exceeds the scope of a bug fix though and is not part of the UOP and won't be made so either.

» Wed May 19, 2010 7:48 pm

@speekyg869: The two badmagic fixes and the Fathis fix are covered. That niben river fix exceeds the scope of a bug fix though and is not part of the UOP and won't be made so either.

Thanks very much Arthmoor! I will put it in my notes.

» Wed May 19, 2010 12:46 pm

I'm doing Random Oblivion World 3 which has this broken bridge with a dead horse on it and as so often the body trashes around. I haven't thought about it much as I assumed it was glitching but when I think about it, it happens too often just to be glitching. It is immersion breaking but not a big deal at the same time as its one of those areas you rush through in a couple of minutes or so. Guess I'm mainly wondering what causes it - and can it be fixed?

» Wed May 19, 2010 9:04 pm

I'm doing Random Oblivion World 3 which has this broken bridge with a dead horse on it and as so often the body trashes around. I haven't thought about it much as I assumed it was glitching but when I think about it, it happens too often just to be glitching. It is immersion breaking but not a big deal at the same time as its one of those areas you rush through in a couple of minutes or so. Guess I'm mainly wondering what causes it - and can it be fixed?

It's probably something on your end, I have no problems with that horse.