[SamanthaLove]

These were hacked wonder-guarded pokemon, I was bored one day so I made them and I've had them on my game for a while, I was like oh well let's see how far I can get... (round 40ish) Fissure... me http://mmii.info/icons/TendoGamer101/ignoddities_FFUUU.gif

I'd like to think of that as your actual face.

[Jamie Moysey]

I'd like to think of that as your actual face.

haha, Now that was after the first fissure hit, now imagine after three more consecutive hits! Four [censored] 1HKO's on my team with FISSURE!

[roxanna matoorah]

haha, Now that was after the first fissure hit, now imagine after three more consecutive hits! Four [censored] 1HKO's on my team with FISSURE!

I'd like to think your head exploded in a comical way. Complete with wacky sound effects.

Anyway, my battle tower team was surprisingly effective. Team:

Magmortar.
Bashful Nature
Ability-Flame Body
Attacks:
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Confuse Ray
-Rock Climb(never got rid of it as I have no heart scales to replace that move.)

Heracross
Lonely Nature
Ability-Swarm
Attacks:
-Close Combat
-Brick Break
-Megahorn
-Night Slash

Tyranitar
Rash Nature
Ability-Sand Stream
Attacks:
-Stone Edge
-Dragon Dance
-Crunch
-Earthquake

I don't remember their individual stats but I'm sure they were terrible. Doesn't bother me as I don't sperg out on IV's/EV's. Got all the way to level 39 and I get hit with a [censored] Garchomp. Seriously, [censored] Garchomp.

[Dan Endacott]

I don't remember their individual stats but I'm sure they were terrible. Doesn't bother me as I don't sperg out on IV's/EV's. Got all the way to level 39 and I get hit with a [censored] Garchomp. Seriously, [censored] Garchomp.

You need an ice type move.

[Andy durkan]

You need an ice type move.

I don't think anyone on my team can use ice moves. And I refuse to use my feraligatr. He svcks.

Edit: Welp, looked it up and tyrantiar can learn five ice attacks. Just makes him that much better. Problem is getting one. I don't wanna have to grind battle points for ice beam.

[Nicholas C]

I don't think anyone on my team can use ice moves. And I refuse to use my feraligatr. He svcks.

Edit: Welp, looked it up and tyrantiar can learn five ice attacks. Just makes him that much better. Problem is getting one. I don't wanna have to grind battle points for ice beam.

Battle arcade or castle, those are easy.

[Tracey Duncan]

Isn't battle arcade the one where it's a random element in each match. Like you starting off with a burn and stuff like that?

[Marine Arrègle]

Isn't battle arcade the one where it's a random element in each match. Like you starting off with a burn and stuff like that?

Yeah I think so, the battle hall is pretty easy to.

[Alex Blacke]

Yeah I think so, the battle hall is pretty easy to.

The only one worth playing is the battle arcade if it's the one I'm thinking of. Grinding in that won't be too bad.

[jesse villaneda]

I don't think anyone on my team can use ice moves. And I refuse to use my feraligatr. He svcks.

Edit: Welp, looked it up and tyrantiar can learn five ice attacks. Just makes him that much better. Problem is getting one. I don't wanna have to grind battle points for ice beam.

Unfortunately, Gabite is faster and also knows fighting attacks so it means it will be able to faint tyranitar first... unless you have a focus sash...

Also, I have just realised that the R/S/E remakes might have Kanto in them as well. This theory is backed up by:
1. Kanto appears in every generation.
2. Only one remake is make each generation
This means that kanto might appear in the remakes. If it does appear, they won't need to modify any of the pokemon levels in hoenn either as hoenn has a fairly low level elite 4 (only about high60s-low70s), meaning there will be plenty of levels to use for kanto's gyms and elite 4. The only problem is that 3 years has caused johto to be connected to kanto, meaning that will have to be accessable.
If this doesn't work, pokemon B/W might contain kanto or even a second remake will appear. Generation V is sounding better each minute...

[Assumptah George]

Unfortunately, Gabite is faster and also knows fighting attacks so it means it will be able to faint tyranitar first... unless you have a focus sash...

Also, I have just realised that the R/S/E remakes might have Kanto in them as well. This theory is backed up by:
1. Kanto appears in every generation.
2. Only one remake is make each generation
This means that kanto might appear in the remakes. If it does appear, they won't need to modify any of the pokemon levels in hoenn either as hoenn has a fairly low level elite 4 (only about high60s-low70s), meaning there will be plenty of levels to use for kanto's gyms and elite 4. The only problem is that 3 years has caused johto to be connected to kanto, meaning that will have to be accessable.
If this doesn't work, pokemon B/W might contain kanto or even a second remake will appear. Generation V is sounding better each minute...

While Kanto has indeed been featured in a game in every generation except the third, remember that Kanto has never actually been featured in a new game. It was featured in the first and second generation games and their remakes, and that's it. If R/S are remade, they can't put Kanto in anyway because that would mean they weren't remakes. It's the same reason why Johto wasn't featured in Fire Red and Leaf Green.

[Vickytoria Vasquez]

While Kanto has indeed been featured in a game in every generation except the third, remember that Kanto has never actually been featured in a new game. It was featured in the first and second generation games and their remakes, and that's it. If R/S are remade, they can't put Kanto in anyway because that would mean they weren't remakes. It's the same reason why Johto wasn't featured in Fire Red and Leaf Green.

Thanks for shooting my theory down...
Oh well, good thing that hoenn is awesome.

[K J S]

Thanks for shooting my theory down...
Oh well, good thing that hoenn is awesome.

Sorry

But as I've said before I really, really don't want remakes of R/S. It isn't that I have nothing against the games, but that there's absolutely no reason to remake them. Every single Pokemon game can be played with an original DS or DS Lite because of the remakes for R/B and G/S. The whole point of remaking the first two generations was so they could be played with a GBA or DS. The 3DS will be coming out within a year, so it's guaranteed that if R/S are remade, they'll be on the 3DS. And you know what that means? They'll start remaking R/B again so it's playable on the 3DS. And when Nintendo phases out DS cartridges with their 20th 3DS model, the 3DS Extra Extra Lite XXXXXXL Mini, they'll start remaking all of the games that were on the DS. It'll be a horrific, never ending cycle of remakes that wont stop until the day Pokemon stops being profitable.

[Jack Bryan]

It'll be a horrific, never ending cycle of remakes that wont stop until the day Pokemon stops being profitable.

Which is when beirber hits puberty.
Also:When “Pokemon” was first released in Japan, there was an odd phenomenon between children ages 7-12, particularly in those using headphones to listen to the sound effects. Increase of nosebleeds, irritability, insomnia, and addiction to the game, playing for hours and hours on end and crying to the point of vomiting when the opportunity was taken away.

Roughly 70% of these cases ended in suicide.

In almost every case of the aforementioned symptoms, despite gameplay time recorded to the limit of the internal clock, the game had not progressed further than “Lavender Town”.

A closer anolysis of the game revealed a tone in the audio of the music for “Lavender Town” at a pitch undetectable by fully developed human ear drums. Within weeks every unsold copy of the “first edition” the game were recalled silently and the game was re-released with re-mastered audio for “Lavender Town”.

The widely known version is said to be missing three extra tones, as well as the unique, binaural tone of the first edition, although this is unconfirmed due to the rarity of working first edition copies; in the known few that remain, the internal clock and ‘battery save’ have all timed out and ceased function, and in many cases the game will freeze upon entering any battle.

[Laura]

Which is when beirber hits puberty.
Also:When “Pokemon” was first released in Japan, there was an odd phenomenon between children ages 7-12, particularly in those using headphones to listen to the sound effects. Increase of nosebleeds, irritability, insomnia, and addiction to the game, playing for hours and hours on end and crying to the point of vomiting when the opportunity was taken away.

Roughly 70% of these cases ended in suicide.

In almost every case of the aforementioned symptoms, despite gameplay time recorded to the limit of the internal clock, the game had not progressed further than “Lavender Town”.

A closer anolysis of the game revealed a tone in the audio of the music for “Lavender Town” at a pitch undetectable by fully developed human ear drums. Within weeks every unsold copy of the “first edition” the game were recalled silently and the game was re-released with re-mastered audio for “Lavender Town”.

The widely known version is said to be missing three extra tones, as well as the unique, binaural tone of the first edition, although this is unconfirmed due to the rarity of working first edition copies; in the known few that remain, the internal clock and ‘battery save’ have all timed out and ceased function, and in many cases the game will freeze upon entering any battle.

Is this true or is it a joke? (feel free to call me gullible if it is fake)
I've never heard of anything like that happening before although anyone who has played G/S/C should know to not have earphones in at maximum volume when entering dragons den unless you really want a headache.

[Joe Bonney]

Sorry

But as I've said before I really, really don't want remakes of R/S. It isn't that I have nothing against the games, but that there's absolutely no reason to remake them. Every single Pokemon game can be played with an original DS or DS Lite because of the remakes for R/B and G/S. The whole point of remaking the first two generations was so they could be played with a GBA or DS. The 3DS will be coming out within a year, so it's guaranteed that if R/S are remade, they'll be on the 3DS. And you know what that means? They'll start remaking R/B again so it's playable on the 3DS. And when Nintendo phases out DS cartridges with their 20th 3DS model, the 3DS Extra Extra Lite XXXXXXL Mini, they'll start remaking all of the games that were on the DS. It'll be a horrific, never ending cycle of remakes that wont stop until the day Pokemon stops being profitable.

It is a growing trend (remakes/republications in general. See GoG, Playstation Network, Xbox Live Marketplace, Wii Virtual Console), and personally I love it. It means that if I want to, I can replay some of my favorite games without having to keep the old consoles in working condition. It is far better with Pokemon as these games aren't digitally distributed.

Though I think it is too soon for another R/B remake

[Heather M]

Which is when beirber hits puberty.
Also:When “Pokemon” was first released in Japan, there was an odd phenomenon between children ages 7-12, particularly in those using headphones to listen to the sound effects. Increase of nosebleeds, irritability, insomnia, and addiction to the game, playing for hours and hours on end and crying to the point of vomiting when the opportunity was taken away.

Roughly 70% of these cases ended in suicide.

In almost every case of the aforementioned symptoms, despite gameplay time recorded to the limit of the internal clock, the game had not progressed further than “Lavender Town”.

A closer anolysis of the game revealed a tone in the audio of the music for “Lavender Town” at a pitch undetectable by fully developed human ear drums. Within weeks every unsold copy of the “first edition” the game were recalled silently and the game was re-released with re-mastered audio for “Lavender Town”.

The widely known version is said to be missing three extra tones, as well as the unique, binaural tone of the first edition, although this is unconfirmed due to the rarity of working first edition copies; in the known few that remain, the internal clock and ‘battery save’ have all timed out and ceased function, and in many cases the game will freeze upon entering any battle.

You might want to cut down on the pasta, I hear too much makes you all bloated and fat.

[Katy Hogben]

It is a growing trend (remakes/republications in general. See GoG, Playstation Network, Xbox Live Marketplace, Wii Virtual Console), and personally I love it. It means that if I want to, I can replay some of my favorite games without having to keep the old consoles in working condition. It is far better with Pokemon as these games aren't digitally distributed.

Though I think it is too soon for another R/B remake

Every remake that Gamefreak does is a potential new Pokemon game delayed. If we didn't have FR/LG and HG/SS we might have 2 more generations than we have now. The remakes we have now are nice, sure, and were technically necessary, but there is absolutely no reason to remake R/S. If R/S are remade, I'm completely confident Gamefreak's habit of remaking games will never end.

Also:When “Pokemon” was first released in Japan, there was an odd phenomenon between children ages 7-12, particularly in those using headphones to listen to the sound effects. Increase of nosebleeds, irritability, insomnia, and addiction to the game, playing for hours and hours on end and crying to the point of vomiting when the opportunity was taken away.

Roughly 70% of these cases ended in suicide.

In almost every case of the aforementioned symptoms, despite gameplay time recorded to the limit of the internal clock, the game had not progressed further than “Lavender Town”.

A closer anolysis of the game revealed a tone in the audio of the music for “Lavender Town” at a pitch undetectable by fully developed human ear drums. Within weeks every unsold copy of the “first edition” the game were recalled silently and the game was re-released with re-mastered audio for “Lavender Town”.

The widely known version is said to be missing three extra tones, as well as the unique, binaural tone of the first edition, although this is unconfirmed due to the rarity of working first edition copies; in the known few that remain, the internal clock and ‘battery save’ have all timed out and ceased function, and in many cases the game will freeze upon entering any battle.

Did you just go crazy for a second there Peace?

[barbara belmonte]

Every remake that Gamefreak does is a potential new Pokemon game delayed. If we didn't have FR/LG and HG/SS we might have 2 more generations than we have now. The remakes we have now are nice, sure, and were technically necessary, but there is absolutely no reason to remake R/S. If R/S are remade, I'm completely confident Gamefreak's habit of remaking games will never end.

I think you are wrong about FR/LG and HG/SS pushing back the time of other game releases. R/B: 1996. G/S: 1999. R/S: 2002. D/P: 2007 B/W: 2010 (TBR)*

As you can see, there is a three year period in between all releases with the exception of D/P, which was released fone year later (making a 4 year period). It being the first DS game, it could have been a lot due to a new set of tools that gamefreak needed to get familiar with (whereas the gameboy line was all very similar with not many real changes). This is backed up by the fact that B/W will be released later this year, three years after D/P, even though HG/SS was also remade.

I am confident that eventually R/S will be remade, though I think that it will be a few more years.

*Japanese releases used on all titles

[Chris Johnston]

I think you are wrong about FR/LG and HG/SS pushing back the time of other game releases. R/B: 1996. G/S: 1999. R/S: 2002. D/P: 2007 B/W: 2010 (TBR)*

As you can see, there is a three year period in between all releases with the exception of D/P, which was released fone year later (making a 4 year period). It being the first DS game, it could have been a lot due to a new set of tools that gamefreak needed to get familiar with (whereas the gameboy line was all very similar with not many real changes). This is backed up by the fact that B/W will be released later this year, three years after D/P, even though HG/SS was also remade.

I am confident that eventually R/S will be remade, though I think that it will be a few more years.

*Japanese releases used on all titles

Considering that, despite the huge difference in graphics between G/S and R/S, it didn't take more then 3 years, but it took 1-2 years more to release D/P, I'm betting FR/LG played a role in that delay. Plus, the DS isn't all that different when you consider that Pokemon games, at least in D/P, only used the touch screen for the menu screens, attack screen, and other minimal things like pokemon contests. It certainly wouldn't require a year or two of extra development.

What possible reason would Gamefreak have for remaking R/S? Besides being money-hungry? FR/LG came out after R/S, so they aren't that different. If R/S needs to be remade, FR/LG needs to be remade. And if FR/LG needs to be remade, D/P needs to be remade, and so on and so on.

[des lynam]

Every remake that Gamefreak does is a potential new Pokemon game delayed. If we didn't have FR/LG and HG/SS we might have 2 more generations than we have now. The remakes we have now are nice, sure, and were technically necessary, but there is absolutely no reason to remake R/S. If R/S are remade, I'm completely confident Gamefreak's habit of remaking games will never end.

How would 2 more generations be a good thing? I have a hard enough time with the rate they're cranking out new Pokemon already!

[George PUluse]

Did you just go crazy for a second there Peace?

No just sharing more copypasta that's completely fake, although I did give a friend a headache by showing her a video that claimed to have the music that did all that.

[vanuza]

Considering that, despite the huge difference in graphics between G/S and R/S, it didn't take more then 3 years, but it took 1-2 years more to release D/P, I'm betting FR/LG played a role in that delay. Plus, the DS isn't all that different when you consider that Pokemon games, at least in D/P, only used the touch screen for the menu screens, attack screen, and other minimal things like pokemon contests. It certainly wouldn't require a year or two of extra development.

My main point was that you said a new series or two could've came out if they chose to not remake R/B and G/S, which is clearly not the case, as the release dates were only delayed by a year at most, and the games come out 4 years after the previous ones, and that could be explained also by the higher level of complexity in the games as well as higher detail rather than that year difference being caused by the remakes.

The DS's hardware and how it handles things is VASTLY different from the gameboy series. The SDK shared not much if anything in common with the gameboy series, whereas the gameboy series SDK shared a lot more in common probably. This meant that they had to build everything all over again, whereas in earlier game releases they could borrow a lot more from the previous versions, so that would add quite a bit more time to the development cycle.

And sorry, I got the year wrong. D/P came out in 2006, so it is just one year more than the regular release cycle, not 1 or 2. And then as shown in B/W, it may just be one of the most advanced games for the DS from a graphical perspective.

What possible reason would Gamefreak have for remaking R/S? Besides being money-hungry? FR/LG came out after R/S, so they aren't that different. If R/S needs to be remade, FR/LG needs to be remade. And if FR/LG needs to be remade, D/P needs to be remade, and so on and so on.

Pokedex. R/S has pokemon that can't be obtained in other versions. Ideally the way they will "remake" them is by implementing the Hoenn region in a newer game, but somehow those pokemon specific to the Hoenn region need to be added.

You are arguing a slippery slope, by the way. All remakes thus far have happened on a need-to-in-order-to-complete-the-pokedex basis, that won't be changing (FR/LG exemplifies this with their ability to get the legendary dogs). No game will be remade until it is imossible to trade the pokemon in that game to the newest version of the game series. That is the way it has been, and that is the way it will continue to be. Since 3DS is completely backwards compatible, that means that the "worst case scenario" is that FR/LG and R/S will be remade, but since those can be obtained still if you have a DS Lite, it isn't a high priority probably. Not until the first 3DS game comes out do I expect to see one get remade, and that is another 3-4 years off. They may even do this in a superior way such as having Hoenn and Kanto available in the same game setting, as we know they share the same timeline.

tl;dr version: The re-releases have at worst pushed new games back a single year, not enough time to release a new title, much less two, as you postulated. Remakes are released only in order to complete the pokedex, so there is no slippery slope of titles being remade over and over again.

[leigh stewart]

You are arguing a slippery slope, by the way.

I disagree, and could continue arguing, but like most of our arguments, they go on far too long for my taste so I'll just end this one. Say you win if you want, but I don't see this argument ending anytime soon if I keep at it. My opinion is still no different then it was before the argument, though.

[George PUluse]

I disagree, and could continue arguing, but like most of our arguments, they go on far too long for my taste so I'll just end this one. Say you win if you want, but I don't see this argument ending anytime soon if I keep at it. My opinion is still no different then it was before the argument, though.

I don't think anyone's trying to argue or say you're wrong for not wanting a R/S remake, it's just your reasoning doesn't make a whole lot of sense. :shrug: No need to get upset over it.