[Daramis McGee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSvyxLAnPDs

Yeah that whole incident is pretty dumb. On a related note:

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss346/azaban/bird-pokemon-silhouette-pokemon-sun.jpg
Sorta looks like a ho-oh pre evolution or a different spearow evolution. Like a different branch on his evolutionary line.

[Jessica Colville]

That silhouette looks pretty good, but I'm hoping it's an original Pokemon. Tired of them changing older evolutionary lines. Looks like a vulture pokemon.

Also, I like that green dinosaur type thing with the horn on his head. Here's hoping they crank out some more decent looking pokes.

[sunny lovett]

Has anyone else heard the unofficial b/w trainer song that is going around youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmuOvD2ZuCc)? I thought it wasn't too good to start with but then it grows on you. Strangely, I'm starting to think that it is actually the battle song now, even though footage from a pokemon tv show in japan has a completely different song for the battles that are demo'd.

Also the new pokemon has been shown (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

[Enny Labinjo]

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/52059

Anyone else notice that the female rival looks like a female Barry?

[Marta Wolko]

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/52059
Oh god... how do they know?!
Anyone else notice that the female rival looks like a female Barry?

Sorta...

[john page]

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/52059

What it says on the link is true. Even though people seem to really hate generation 3 (well, only the very vocal monority) but I bet they would still play it if generation 4 didn't come out.

I've noticed that there is a lot of theories on the remake of pokemon emerald. To be honest though, not many of the theories sound plausible (e.g pokemon cenre pokeball marking on floor, Pokeball marking in the Lance's room e.t.c) but somehow, I know there will be a remake despite all of the hatred of the generation they originate from.

[Miss Hayley]

What it says on the link is true. Even though people seem to really hate generation 3 (well, only the very vocal monority) but I bet they would still play it if generation 4 didn't come out.

I've noticed that there is a lot of theories on the remake of pokemon emerald. To be honest though, not many of the theories sound plausible (e.g pokemon cenre pokeball marking on floor, Pokeball marking in the Lance's room e.t.c) but somehow, I know there will be a remake despite all of the hatred of the generation they originate from.

The main reason I just don't like generation three was that it was just boring to me. I couldn't stand that everywhere I looked there was water (I hate traveling through water in all the games) and the game was just really boring to me. Really, the only reason I was able to replay sapphire was because of the ninjask I got that was ten levels below kyogre and still one shot it.

[Mélida Brunet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFYJO9v5Xg

[Jack Moves]

The main reason I just don't like generation three was that it was just boring to me. I couldn't stand that everywhere I looked there was water (I hate traveling through water in all the games) and the game was just really boring to me. Really, the only reason I was able to replay sapphire was because of the ninjask I got that was ten levels below kyogre and still one shot it.

I must be odd then because I was fine with all of the water areas. If the surf speed was the same as D/P though...

[Nitol Ahmed]

Salamence has now been voted uber, I have nothing to say sohttp://img824.imageshack.us/img824/11/fffuuue.jpg. Now what shall I do with my mixmence? ;-;

EDIT: Dedicating my avatar to my favorite dragon temporarily, can someone make the background transparent... please?

[matt oneil]

Salamence has now been voted uber, I have nothing to say sohttp://img824.imageshack.us/img824/11/fffuuue.jpg. Now what shall I do with my mixmence? ;-;

EDIT: Dedicating my avatar to my favorite dragon temporarily, can someone make the background transparent... please?

I don't really believe in tiers, the only tier thing I agree with is that garchomp and wabuffet are very unfair. So in other words, who cares that he is an uber? If you really want to still use him, then do so anyway; the only ones who will complain are Stop Having Fun Guys. If you listened to them, you would have to use the same team as everyone else and you will still be doing it wrong.

[Ludivine Dupuy]

I'm just wondering do pokemon tiers just turn into ''IT'S TOO HARD TO BEAT YOU CAN'T USE IT''?
I think the fact the game has to be changed and moves disallowed and so on just shows that it's not meant to be competitive. Taking a real competitive game like say, Street Fighter, no-one is banned, there are tiers yes, but since it's designed to be competitive there's nothing broken, even if there are some better characters. The sheer amount of options in pokemon kill that, as you can't really successfully balance that many pokemon and their moves.

[Flash]

Salamence has now been voted uber, I have nothing to say sohttp://img824.imageshack.us/img824/11/fffuuue.jpg. Now what shall I do with my mixmence? ;-;

EDIT: Dedicating my avatar to my favorite dragon temporarily, can someone make the background transparent... please?

Mence has deserved uber for a long time.

He was broken,people had gotten used to losing a Pokemon every game because of him.

Connor,the tiers aren't about taking fun away or making people stop having fun.

They're decided by some of the the best players around based off of facts about their performance to keep the balance,if there was no tier system then you would end up with a really bad game overall competitively.

Pokemon aren't just randomly thrown into tiers,it's all based around usage and stats.

It isn't the community's fault the game isn't balanced out of the box,I assure you even the best of the best still play the game to have fun..tiers are required to keep competitive play fun.

[Claire Mclaughlin]

I'm just wondering do pokemon tiers just turn into ''IT'S TOO HARD TO BEAT YOU CAN'T USE IT''?
I think the fact the game has to be changed and moves disallowed and so on just shows that it's not meant to be competitive. Taking a real competitive game like say, Street Fighter, no-one is banned, there are tiers yes, but since it's designed to be competitive there's nothing broken, even if there are some better characters. The sheer amount of options in pokemon kill that, as you can't really successfully balance that many pokemon and their moves.

A lot of things in the banned list actually deserve to be there but I do agree with pretty much everything you said.

[Dan Wright]

Mence has deserved uber for a long time.

He was broken,people had gotten used to losing a Pokemon every game because of him.

Connor,the tiers aren't about taking fun away or making people stop having fun.

They're decided by some of the the best players around based off of facts about their performance to keep the balance,if there was no tier system then you would end up with a really bad game overall competitively.

Pokemon aren't just randomly thrown into tiers,it's all based around usage and stats.

It isn't the community's fault the game isn't balanced out of the box,I assure you even the best of the best still play the game to have fun..tiers are required to keep competitive play fun.

But if the game isn't balanced out of the box then it's not designed to be competitive, you're entitled to play the way you want, sure, but you have to admit it's not a competitive game. Even in that kind of play you've still got all the same cookie cutter teams over and over again, so there may as well only be those 40 pokemon, and when you're restricting yourself that badly you're not even playing the same game the rest of us are.

[Jessica Stokes]

I'm just wondering do pokemon tiers just turn into ''IT'S TOO HARD TO BEAT YOU CAN'T USE IT''?
I think the fact the game has to be changed and moves disallowed and so on just shows that it's not meant to be competitive. Taking a real competitive game like say, Street Fighter, no-one is banned, there are tiers yes, but since it's designed to be competitive there's nothing broken, even if there are some better characters. The sheer amount of options in pokemon kill that, as you can't really successfully balance that many pokemon and their moves.

It's intentional,Nintendo wants there to be good pokemon and bad ones.

Multiple metagames constantly changing keeps Pokemon interesting.

It's gotten kind of stale now with no new moves/ect. being added but this is the very end of the generation.

[IM NOT EASY]

But if the game isn't balanced out of the box then it's not designed to be competitive, you're entitled to play the way you want, sure, but you have to admit it's not a competitive game. Even in that kind of play you've still got all the same cookie cutter teams over and over again, so there may as well only be those 40 pokemon, and when you're restricting yourself that badly you're not even playing the same game the rest of us are.

I've been in competitive Pokemon since GSC when you went to stores for tournaments,trust me Pokemon is definitely a solid competitive game.

Not every team is a cookie cutter team either,there are plenty of viable Pokemon in each tier.

Yes some Pokemon are completely broken and can be found on every team when they're allowed(Salamence,Latias..) but that's why there is a ban list(aka the uber tier) or for UU the BL tier.

[Jessie]

I've been in competitive Pokemon since GSC when you went to stores for tournaments,trust me Pokemon is definitely a solid competitive game.

Not every team is a cookie cutter team either,there are plenty of viable Pokemon in each tier.

Yes some Pokemon are completely broken and can be found on every team when they're allowed(Salamence,Latias..) but that's why there is a ban list(aka the uber tier) or for UU the BL tier.

Latias is broken? No, really, I didn't know that. I thought it was fine (along with salimence). [by the way, [b]none[/b] of that was sarcasm]

Anyway, me and my brothers have set up some different rules for battles with each other now (any pokemon that is banned in battle frontier including wabuffet and garchomp is not allowed unless agreed on). It used to be that any legendaries, evolutions of garchomp and wabuffet and any lvl100 were not allowed but that meant that they would just gather dust in our computers. I've yet to see how the new rules will work but hopefully they are better than the previous rules that we used.

Changing the subject, apparently depending on what version you are playing now, the appearance of most towns will change. In otherwords, Isshu will either a highly technological place (pokemon black) or will be more like johto when it comes to tradition (pokemon white).
Also, what does everyone think the hilgh link will do? From what it sounds like, it turns Isshu into a mini MMO world. Sounds interesting...

[celebrity]

Latias is broken? No, really, I didn't know that. I thought it was fine (along with salimence). [by the way, [b]none[/b] of that was sarcasm]

Anyway, me and my brothers have set up some different rules for battles with each other now (any pokemon that is banned in battle frontier including wabuffet and garchomp is not allowed unless agreed on). It used to be that any legendaries, evolutions of garchomp and wabuffet and any lvl100 were not allowed but that meant that they would just gather dust in our computers. I've yet to see how the new rules will work but hopefully they are better than the previous rules that we used.

Changing the subject, apparently depending on what version you are playing now, the appearance of most towns will change. In otherwords, Isshu will either a highly technological place (pokemon black) or will be more like johto when it comes to tradition (pokemon white).
Also, what does everyone think the hilgh link will do? From what it sounds like, it turns Isshu into a mini MMO world. Sounds interesting...

No no, not most towns will change, just one town. That town will be more technological in Pokemon Black and more traditional in Pokemon White. Which is a shame because I really wanted to get White, but I like the look of that technological town. So I'll be torn until I see exactly what other version exclusives there are.

[Stacey Mason]

Mence has deserved uber for a long time.

He was broken,people had gotten used to losing a Pokemon every game because of him.

Connor,the tiers aren't about taking fun away or making people stop having fun.

They're decided by some of the the best players around based off of facts about their performance to keep the balance,if there was no tier system then you would end up with a really bad game overall competitively.

Pokemon aren't just randomly thrown into tiers,it's all based around usage and stats.

It isn't the community's fault the game isn't balanced out of the box,I assure you even the best of the best still play the game to have fun..tiers are required to keep competitive play fun.

Salamence is too weak for uber battles though. He is extremely weak to ice damage and doesn't have good health. Stealth Rock will trap him easily enough and dragon dancing Salamence is easy enough to counter.

Smogon is dumb, and now even more dumb. They changed the system. Now only 9 people can vote, whereas before everyone could. They have a month to decide, and a one-person margin is enough to consider it in-favor (and there is obviously always at least a 1-person margin)

[Nick Pryce]

Salamence is too weak for uber battles though. He is extremely weak to ice damage and doesn't have good health. Stealth Rock will trap him easily enough and dragon dancing Salamence is easy enough to counter.

Smogon is dumb, and now even more dumb. They changed the system. Now only 9 people can vote, whereas before everyone could. They have a month to decide, and a one-person margin is enough to consider it in-favor (and there is obviously always at least a 1-person margin)

Uber status has -nothing- to do with ability in Ubers.

The Uber tier is a ban list for OU,like BL is a ban list for UU.

And they were trying something different for this specific decision,I prefer to let 9 really good players choose instead of ~100 "decent" players who happened to have decent CRE on Smogon's Shoddy server.

[Anna Watts]

Uber status has -nothing- to do with ability in Ubers.

The Uber tier is a ban list for OU,like BL is a ban list for UU.

And they were trying something different for this specific decision,I prefer to let 9 really good players choose instead of ~100 "decent" players who happened to have decent CRE on Smogon's Shoddy server.

Smogon DID NOT set up Uber to be a banlist for OU, just that that is how it has been treated for the past 3 years. Uber is supposed to be those too powerful for OU play, the amount a pokemon appears has NOTHING to do with the uber category, and EVERYTHING to do with the OverUsed category (hence, the name). Salamence is faaaar from being too powerful for OU play due to it's huge weaknesses, low health, and low defense. The ability to strategy around a Salamence is trivial at best as almost all teams have at least a pokemon with an ice attack, if not a dedicated ice pokemon.

[Zach Hunter]

Smogon DID NOT set up Uber to be a banlist for OU, just that that is how it has been treated for the past 3 years. Uber is supposed to be those too powerful for OU play, the amount a pokemon appears has NOTHING to do with the uber category, and EVERYTHING to do with the OverUsed category (hence, the name). Salamence is faaaar from being too powerful for OU play due to it's huge weaknesses, low health, and low defense. The ability to strategy around a Salamence is trivial at best as almost all teams have at least a pokemon with an ice attack, if not a dedicated ice pokemon.

The fact is that no Pokemon in OU is capable of switching into every move on the MixMence set except Cressilia who is destroyed by Scizor and Tyranitar,which in the Mence era were both in top 10 usage constantly,Mence's attacking stats are just too good.

And with Intimidate it can switch into a lot of neutral attacks.

Also,every team in the Salamence era had 3+ checks for him proves he was broken IMO.

And just because you have an ice attack doesn't mean you can beat Salamence unless it's Ice Shard.

And no Ice Pokemon can switch into Draco Meteor,meaning you have to sacrifice a Pokemon to get your ice type in,and once you do Salamence will just switch out and come back in later to rip another Pokemon appart with DM.

Dragon's are just too good this generation,and I really like the Salamence-less metagame.

It's more diverse and a lot less centralized,not every team requires a Scizor now and there are a lot of different stall breakers instead of every team just using Salamence to rip stall appart.

Just my opinions but I think Smogon has done a very good job trying to balance out this broken generation..I hate to see it,but the fact is that the 3 dragons that have been banned really needed it,they're just way too good now.

[Olga Xx]

The fact is that no Pokemon in OU is capable of switching into every move on the MixMence set except Cressilia who is destroyed by Scizor and Tyranitar,which in the Mence era were both in top 10 usage constantly,Mence's attacking stats are just too good.

And with Intimidate it can switch into a lot of neutral attacks.

Also,every team in the Salamence era had 3+ checks for him proves he was broken IMO.

And just because you have an ice attack doesn't mean you can beat Salamence unless it's Ice Shard.

And no Ice Pokemon can switch into Draco Meteor,meaning you have to sacrifice a Pokemon to get your ice type in,and once you do Salamence will just switch out and come back in later to rip another Pokemon appart with DM.

Dragon's are just too good this generation,and I really like the Salamence-less metagame.

It's more diverse and a lot less centralized,not every team requires a Scizor now and there are a lot of different stall breakers instead of every team just using Salamence to rip stall appart.

Just my opinions but I think Smogon has done a very good job trying to balance out this broken generation..I hate to see it,but the fact is that the 3 dragons that have been banned really needed it,they're just way too good now.

Good lord competitive Pokemon is complicated and un-fun. I know you've said it really isn't but your post just furthers my belief that it is. I'm with Azaban, I'll stick to playing in the game where anything can beat anything given the right circumstances.

[Nienna garcia]

Good lord competitive Pokemon is complicated and un-fun. I know you've said it really isn't but your post just furthers my belief that it is. I'm with Azaban, I'll stick to playing in the game where anything can beat anything given the right circumstances.

Stop having fun Antibody, the game isn't meant to be played like that.

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