[kyle pinchen]

Just wondering. Does the Nvidia Geforce series work the same way as the ATI Radeon series?

They were similar some years ago, when both used the first two of the four numbers, but ignored the tens and ones. Now that AMD uses the tens, nVIDIA stopped using the thousands.

nVIDIA also jumps around from year to year now, using their numbers differently, so it's a great deal harder to keep track.

Radeon Nr ........ GT200 ......... GTX400

HD n200 ......... n/a ............. n/a
HD n350 .......... 210 ............ 520
HD n450 .......... 220 ............ 430
HD n550 .......... 230 ............. ---
HD n570 ........... --- .............. 440
HD n650 .......... 240 ............ 450
HD n670 .......... 240 ............ 550
HD n750 .......... 260 ............ 460
HD n770 .......... 270 ............ 560
HD n830 .......... 275 ............ 470
HD n850 .......... 280 ............. ---
HD n870 ........... --- ............. 570


Gorath

[Melanie Steinberg]

You haven't paid enough attention. No one buys desktops any more, and the popularity of cheap NetBook micro-mini computers, at very low prices, have diluted the entire retail marketplace's graphics capabilities. An Xbox 360 had the power of the Radeon X1950, and there just aren't any ordinary notebook chipset video chips that good. The Radeon HD 3200 is not that good, nor is the HD 4200 / 4250. The HD 3450 /3470 graphics card isn't that good, nor is the Geforce 210/310/520. I'll have to visit GPU Review, but I don't think that the HD 4350 or 4550 are that good.

(Edited here.) OK, I've done that. The HD 4350 / 4550 pair are not as good as an X 1950, nor is an HD 5450:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=584&card2=466

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=625&card2=466

What are you talking about "no buys desktops anymore". If you want to game on PC you pretty much have to get a destop. Lap tops svck anyway. I don't see why anybody besides a travelling business man or writer would want one anyway. And what are talking about the Geforce 520 is Way better then the xbox's card. The Xbox came out more then five years ago. You don't know what your talking about.

[Marta Wolko]

No. You need a much better graphics card. The GT 520 is strictly business charts, graphs, presentations, and spreadsheets, and not even very good for those. If you have to have a Geforce, now, then you need the GTS 450 or the GTX 550, as the starting point in the middle of Mainline Gaming territory for very good settings, but to reach "High" settings, we aren't that certain just yet. We think it will take a GTX 560 Ti as the minimum for that.

Dude you don't know what your talking about at all. You can play Crysis on medium with a fricking Geforce 8600!

[Causon-Chambers]

- CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 250
Socket-AM3, Dual Core, 3.0Ghz, 2MB, 65W, Boxed

- RAM: Kingston ValueR. DDR3 1333MHz 4GB, CL9
Kit w/two matched ValueRAM 2GB DDR3

- GPU: XFX Radeon HD 5670 512MB GDDR5
PCI-Express 2.0, DVI-I, natvie-HDMI, DisplayPort, 775MHz

- OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit)

I can recall playing Bad Company 2 on Highest/almost last year when I had got the computer but last time I played it had to put it all down to Low, either it's my computer messing or all the updates to the game.
Also I started to notice weird fps drops every each second on two other games after that I had them running for about 5-10 minutes.
Probably gonna reinstall computer in time for Skyrim. What do you think? I'm a bit concerned about the GPU..
If not enough, would a
XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 "Dual Fan"
PCI-Express 2.1, 2xDVI, HDMI, 2xmini-DisplayPort, 900MHz

Do good enough?
Thanks. //newbie

Way more then good enough.

[Minako]

Dude you don't know what your talking about at all. You can play Crysis on medium with a fricking Geforce 8600!

An 8600 was a proper game playing graphics card four years ago -- the 520 is a modern, stupid tinker toy hardly better than the 210 / 310. It's not in the same league with any mainline card, such as a GTS 450.

[Trevi]

An 8600 was a proper game playing graphics card four years ago -- the 520 is a modern, stupid tinker toy hardly better than the 210 / 310. It's not in the same league with any mainline card, such as a GTS 450.

A 210 is equivalent to about the 9500, and if look at there site the 520 is listed as "new". It's not top of the line but it is good for gaming.

[Lily]

Way more then good enough.

That new card or my current stuff is way more than good enough? :blink:

[Sharra Llenos]

Thank you! So http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/hd-5570/Pages/hd-5570-overview.aspx would work too? (Within my budget)

Maybe. There is a review that runs the 5570 through Fallout 3. You can make guesses at how it might perform in Skyrim.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5570-review/16

A lot depends on what resolution you intend to run at.

If I were strapped for cash I would wait until the game arrived and then buy a card. The prices should go down, not up, and by then other guinea pigs will have take all the guesswork out of "what works" for you.

[dell]

A 210 is equivalent to about the 9500, and if look at there site the 520 is listed as "new". It's not top of the line but it is good for gaming.

Edit: a 520 is lower then a 9500, according to toms hardware. You'd be better off getting a gt220 then a 520. The 220 is a few tiers higher.

Just because it's a "new" card doesn't mean it's good for gaming. Crap is crap, regardless if it starts with a 2 or a 5. You can game with it, without a doubt, but is it worth it? Nope! nvidiA likes to shine it's [censored], and call it new, but those cards are thier for svckers to buy. And they'll only buy them once, after being disappointed that there "new" cards don't live up to half their expectations, and theyll pony up for higher end cards next go around. Take it from me, I've bought a pc a few years back that had a gt120, this is when they first changed from 4-3 digit naming, and I was told it was great, it had a whole 1gb ram, and after I started gaming and realized it was just a rebranded pile of dung I never bought another lesser card again. Read up on cards before you buy them, don't buy lesser cards(below _50) if you want to play at high resolutions and modern games. Unless you think playing at low settings is fun, buy a good card.

[Rodney C]

I was here before and someone gave me great advice the last time so im hoping this time my pc specs are better than last lol. im wondering if this is a good gaming pc for games like skyrim or others with graphics like crisis 2. MoBo: 1156 DDR3, CPU: i7 2.93GHz. Ram: 12gb DDR3 1600. Harddrive: 500gb 7200RPM 64MB, Video Card: Radeon HD 6870 16B GDDR5, OPTDrive: 2.04x, Powersupply: 800w. I would really appreciate any advice or tips thank you.Im more looking for high settings or medium so if something should be replaced on this list let me know and the SSD is SATA III.

any advice or rating would be nice thanks.

[victoria johnstone]

any advice or rating would be nice thanks.

Why are you getting 12gb ram? If your only gaming you will never use more then 4. I have 8 myself, and have never once used more then 4.

What's your CPU? Get the k version if you want to overclock anytime in the future. Not familiar with your brand of graphics cards, but I'm sure 800w is not needed. I have a 570 and a 650w psu.

[Kay O'Hara]

Why are you getting 12gb ram? If your only gaming you will never use more then 4. I have 8 myself, and have never once used more then 4.

What's your CPU? Get the k version if you want to overclock anytime in the future. Not familiar with your brand of graphics cards, but I'm sure 800w is not needed. I have a 570 and a 650w psu.

cool, i ddont know much about pc building and i thought it would be great to have spare rams incase for another computer??. i forgot to mention my cpu is a quadcore 1156. and thank you so much Tylerryan.

[Meghan Terry]

cool, i ddont know much about pc building and i thought it would be great to have spare rams incase for another computer??. i forgot to mention my cpu is a quadcore 1156. and thank you so much Tylerryan.

Never skimp on the PSU, other guy that said 650 is enough, probably right, but it's always better to have a little overhead in case you want to crossfire or add on some extras.

Having said that, a QUALITY PSU is the better buy that a more cheaply made PSU with higher wattage. took for the 80+ gold standard (a mark of efficiency, which usually means using high quality parts and proper assembly)

[W E I R D]

Never skimp on the PSU, other guy that said 650 is enough, probably right, but it's always better to have a little overhead in case you want to crossfire or add on some extras.

Having said that, a QUALITY PSU is the better buy that a more cheaply made PSU with higher wattage. took for the 80+ gold standard (a mark of efficiency, which usually means using high quality parts and proper assembly)

Thank you thankyou Thank you again. 800 watts sounds perfect for me . Good stuff right here people.

[christelle047]

A 210 is equivalent to about the 9500, and if look at there site the 520 is listed as "new". It's not top of the line but it is good for gaming.

The 210 is worse than the last nVIDIA IGP, three years ago, the 9300. The 8600 and 9500 were the exact same card, just a thinner wafer, MILES better (KMs if you're not stateside) than either one of the 210 or 520. The 220 / 230 were the ones that were close to the 8500 / 9400 pair (same card, two names, two years).

[Arrogant SId]

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1216347-unofficial-will-my-pc-run-skyrim-thread-7/ the computer I have,so will it run Skyrim maybe?

[Chris Johnston]

Okay, so I'm planning on acquiring a few upgrades for my PC soon (Likely mid-september), but I thought I'd post for some opinions on how it fairs currently. I realize it's nothing more than speculation at this point, but I'd appreciate feedback.

Processor: Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

RAM: 3GB (Planning to upgrade to 4GB)

Graphics Card: Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 (Just upgraded this not too long ago, but I may upgrade again if need be.)

Power Supply: 450W(I think, I'm not entirely sure as they didn't make it obvious.)

[Tai Scott]

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1218089-unofficial-will-my-pc-run-skyrim-thread-8/.