[biiibi]

I've been playing a Druid and it's been really fun, I wasn't sure if I would like him but I do, he's become my main on my Hoard server. I'm Feral spec'd right now but once I get to lvl. 40 I'll go dual spec and be a healer.

[cassy]

Well, I finally caved in and started playing again. I've played from release, through TBC, and about a week into WotLK before giving my account to a friend. I must say, I'm impressed with a lot of the changes (the smaller talent trees for example), and I'm really looking forward to Cataclysm and the increased difficulty in Heroics and Raids (because from what I understand, WotLK was a cakewalk, though I do hear that Heroic 25 Lich King is quite difficult).

The only thing I'd like to see more of is character customization. Say for instance, height, muscle size, tusk/horn/hair length. It's not bad by any means as it is now, I'd just like to see more.

Also, is there any reason, lore wise, why the Mag'har (dark brown) skin color isn't available for Orcs, and why, as an Undead, you can only play an undead Human, and not an Undead elf, tauren, gnome, etc?

And almost forgot. My main is Grizlok (Orc Shaman currently level 20) on Nathrezim.

[carla]

Mag'har Orcs are fel orcs, and not the Orcs that you can play as a race. Two different sub races.
And Undead are the Forsaken, not just "dead races".

[Valerie Marie]

Mag'har Orcs are fel orcs, and not the Orcs that you can play as a race. Two different sub races.
And Undead are the Forsaken, not just "dead races".

I thought the Red orcs were Fel orcs? And I thought that 'Forsaken' was just the name of the undead group as a whole? I don't see how a name would mean why the only Undead there are are Humans. You'd think there'd be at least a few Undead from the other races, not just humans.

EDIT: Yeah. http://www.wowwiki.com/Mag%27har The Mag'har were never corrupted. So, does anyone know why the dark brown skin color is not available to Orcs (lore wise anyways)? And why the only undead in the Forsaken are human undead?

[Richard Thompson]

The Mag'har were never corrupted. So, does anyone know why the dark brown skin color is not available to Orcs (lore wise anyways)? And why the only undead in the Forsaken are human undead?

Because the Mag'har are native to Outland, not Azeroth.

[phil walsh]

Because the Mag'har are native to Outland, not Azeroth.

Garrosh has the dark brown skin though doesn't he? Or is he from Outland too? It's not like they couldn't move to Azeroth... then again, having to chose between destruction ridden Azeroth, and beautiful Nagrand, I'd chose Nagrand.

[Eddie Howe]

Garrosh has the dark brown skin though doesn't he? Or is he from Outland too? It's not like they couldn't move to Azeroth... then again, having to chose between destruction ridden Azeroth, and beautiful Nagrand, I'd chose Nagrand.

Garrosh was from Nagrand. The Azeroth orcs are the corrupted ones.

Plus TBC is an expansion pack, so they weren't going to re-populate Azeroth with new orcs just so we can have brown skin.

[Thema]

Garrosh was from Nagrand. The Azeroth orcs are the corrupted ones.

Plus TBC is an expansion pack, so they weren't going to re-populate Azeroth with new orcs just so we can have brown skin.

Ah, I see. Well, I still think it would be cool as like, "Oh the Mag'har are sending in help to the Horde now because of us helping them in Outland." But I do agree, making new NPCs just for one new skin color is unnecessary.

How about other undead races, besides just humans? I was thinking that maybe the other races "spirits" just aren't susceptible to being raised back from the dead as undead.

[Lauren Dale]

Ah, I see. Well, I still think it would be cool as like, "Oh the Mag'har are sending in help to the Horde now because of us helping them in Outland." But I do agree, making new NPCs just for one new skin color is unnecessary.

The Mag'har do send help... that's why Garrosh comes to lead the orc war party in Northrend. They're just a small tribe, you can't expect them to send a huge army.

How about other undead races, besides just humans? I was thinking that maybe the other races "spirits" just aren't susceptible to being raised back from the dead as undead.

I guess it's the easiest way to make them distinguishable from other races, is to give the entire undead race their own unique appearance.

[Sunnii Bebiieh]

I also don't see how undead seem "human". They have no discernible human features. They are just Undead. They aren't Humans, or Night Elves. They're Undead.

[Irmacuba]

I also don't see how undead seem "human". They have no discernible human features. They are just Undead. They aren't Humans, or Night Elves. They're Undead.

Well we know Sylvanis was a high elf before she was forsaken. And many forsaken speak of their past lives as humans.

[Samantha Jane Adams]

Well we know Sylvanis was a high elf before she was forsaken. And many forsaken speak of their past lives as humans.

Exactly, a high elf isn't a Human, though. So it's not strictly Humans that turn into undead after death, is all I'm saying.

[Raymond J. Ramirez]

Exactly, a high elf isn't a Human, though. So it's not strictly Humans that turn into undead after death, is all I'm saying.

You never see an orc or troll forsaken though. Blood/high elves are a lot more human-like than all the other races, so the difference as an undead could be unnoticeable.

[RObert loVes MOmmy]

The Forsaken were originally humans and high elves who died from the plague and the Scourge. Once Sylvanas become free from the Lich King, she gathered other freed humans and elves to fight both him and the humans who remained in Lordaeron, and when the current Lich King Arthas is officially defeated, she'll employ some of his former val'kyr to continue resurrecting humans and elves. She simply doesn't accept other risen races. When you arise in the tomb, you used to be a human and/or elf.

The Mag'har are the orcs that were never involved in the corruption, fel orcs are the complete opposite. As an orc starting out in Durotar, you'll always be green because you appear after the whole corruption business -- you're not from Draenor, you're from Azeroth. And the Mag'har never actually send help for Thrall, Garrosh was invited to join the Horde, and Dranosh Saurfang joined on his own. Other Mag'har remain in Draenor, and for now at least it's staying that way, so that skin tone won't be available for making new orcs.

[Gavin boyce]

Tamed Skoll on Friday with my hunter, collecting Herbs in Storm Peaks is a good excuse to occasionally fly past his spawn points :hehe:

As my NPC scan add-on started going ape I flew down to see what the commotion was all about. There was a Gnome Rogue just stood next to him, as I approached the Gnome started jumping around excitedly spamming emotes (Telling me to wait). Needless to say I ignored him, dropped a frost trap and proceeded with the taming. In all honesty I was expecting the Rogue to simply attack him and kill him but thankfully he didn't. Looks like I got their in the nick of time as well, about 10 seconds after A Nelf Hunter arrived on the scene, probably a friend of the Rogue. Oh well, I don't think there were any hard feelings, I was just quicker to the scene. :shrug:

Think I'll be looking to grab Arcturis next, can do some fishing while I'm their. I hear Grizzly Hills is nice this time of year.

[Taylrea Teodor]

Gratz on finding him! And I bet there actually were some hard feelings hehe

[Emily abigail Villarreal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7y-VTlJqgA
Really nice video on the Cata reps. Totalbiscuits.

[Dalley hussain]

Okay, I finally got my discs back. I shall enter the World once more. But as I haven't played in a while, Im playing as a noob, and know nothing at all. Okay, well I know some stuff, but not nearly enough.

Any advice/tips for a returning user? I'll post my character and info. later when it's done being installed.

Edit: I also have a question. If I register WoW I automatically get a month free. If I register Burning Crusade straight afterwards, do I get another month free, or does it still count as one month free?

If I register WoW one month, and register BC the next month, will I get two months free that way?

[Judy Lynch]

Okay, I finally got my discs back. I shall enter the World once more. But as I haven't played in a while, Im playing as a noob, and know nothing at all. Okay, well I know some stuff, but not nearly enough.

Any advice/tips for a returning user? I'll post my character and info. later when it's done being installed.

Edit: I also have a question. If I register WoW I automatically get a month free. If I register Burning Crusade straight afterwards, do I get another month free, or does it still count as one month free?

If I register WoW one month, and register BC the next month, will I get two months free that way?

BC doesn't come with a free month either way.

[Red Sauce]

BC doesn't come with a free month either way.

Okay, thank you for the confirmation. :foodndrink:

[Jinx Sykes]

Any advice/tips for a returning user?

How long were you away, and how far did you get back then?

They did the first Cata pre-patch a few weeks ago, so the classes are already different and a lot of things are buggy as hell. The next patch is due by the end of the month, and the lead-in events have started. From what I've seen and heard, the usual endgame content is kinda on hold because most people are so sick of it, but there are a lot of others who are scrambling to get in one last ICC run or get stuff that'll be gone next month, like the ZG mount.

[Melissa De Thomasis]

The pre-Cata event has started! Elementals are beginning to invade Orgrimmar, Stormwind and various places throughout Azeroth. There's a Feat of Strength to kill all the different types of elementals but I can't be bothered. It's only the first phase though, so things will gradually hot up until the final cataclysm. I re-subbed to make sure I didn't miss out on it

[lauren cleaves]

I haven't played since summer, got so bored that I quit. I don't know if I'll come back or not yet, I'm probably not going to. Oh well, it was good for the two and a half years I played.

Guild Wars 2 looks nice though.

[Daramis McGee]

This is what i understand about the Forsaken. The kingdom of Lordareon (spelling i know lol) was a human kingdom allied with Stormwind, but when Acherus (and before that Naxx) attacked, they turned every human except for the luckiest survivors into Undead. From a Lore stand-point, it is quite likely that the Forsaken could be High Elven, or Blood Elves, but the Undead we see tend to reflect Humans since they suffered far more significant losses. For example, BE capital got a scar... UC is the skeleton of a once beautiful castle and city.

And for a fun fact, if you play horde, go to the throne room above the UC bank, and turn down music while upping ambient noises... I guarantee you will be disturbed, if not intrigued. It takes a while so be patient.

Just a quick note:
Night Elves main enemy were always the Burning Legion, the Orcs only became their enemy when they started chopping down their trees, oh and when they murdered their friggin god.
Dwarves and Gnomes kinda disliked Trolls, simply because their tribes pushed into their kingdoms, and also they made babies with something or other and spawned TROGGS!!!
Humans hate orcs and trolls for halting their advancement as a race and nation.
Dranei hate the Belves (well more like distrust) because of the whole Outland incident, which coincidentally applies to Orcs butchering the space-goats mercifully. And yet now they can slay gods, aspects, and other monsters stronger than your average orc scout...

thought i could try and make sense of what few things i got from lore discussions. oh, the blood elves get the sunwell back = not good for ANYONE. Just saying, the belf ties to the horde were for protection and vengeance at least. with the power of the well on their side... who knows.

[Naomi Lastname]

Dwarves and Gnomes kinda disliked Trolls, simply because their tribes pushed into their kingdoms, and also they made babies with something or other and spawned TROGGS!!!

Troggs are actually "prototype" dwarves. Both races were created as stone servants to the titans, before they had the "curse of flesh" cast on them by the Old Gods.