[Jose ordaz]

540ish is def cap so you're not hit with crits. The hell is the 96969?? Also, for heroics id have 30k+ HP.

My rogue is at 54% as level 79. Gona go get 80.
DING 80!

You utilise the Paladin's cooldowns of his 5 main tanking abilities. For example,

Pull the target (Avenger's Shield)

1. Judgement (9 sec CD)
2. Shield of Righteousness (6 sec CD)
3. Holy Shield (9 sec CD)
4. Hammer of the Righteous (6 sec CD)
5. Consecration (9 sec CD)
6. Rinse repeat

If you use the 9 sec CD > 6 sec CD rule and repeat these, you won't be waiting for CDs at all and it should be a smooth overall rotation.

[louise tagg]

You utilise the Paladin's cooldowns of his 5 main tanking abilities. For example,

Pull the target (Avenger's Shield)

1. Judgement (9 sec CD)
2. Shield of Righteousness (6 sec CD)
3. Holy Shield (9 sec CD)
4. Hammer of the Righteous (6 sec CD)
5. Consecration (9 sec CD)
6. Rinse repeat

If you use the 9 sec CD > 6 sec CD rule and repeat these, you won't be waiting for CDs at all and it should be a smooth overall rotation.

I usually just make sure fury is on then roll my face on the keyboard.

[suzan]

I usually just make sure fury is on then roll my face on the keyboard.

Sounds like a lolret pally. XD

Including the RF tidbit.

[Robert Bindley]

Sounds like a lolret pally. XD

Including the RF tidbit.

Sounds alot like prot to me as well.

[Ricky Meehan]

Anyone happen to know about glitches in DM North? Our guild ran through there this past weekend, and after killing the King, a couple people were stuck in combat. Even though we were doing a tribute run, we ended up killing Guard Fengus and the drunk ogre, but when we got back to where we'd fought Fengus, he was standing around like nothing had happened -- then he attacked the two people who were stuck in combat.

I've been looking and asking around, so I know OF glitches in there, just don't know anything more specific. And considering how old DM is, if it's known to be buggy about something, I would think that there'd be more mention of the problems.

[Dalley hussain]

Made it to 73 on my hunter now, having started in Northrend at 68. I've done Howling Fjord and am coming to the end of Borean Tundra now, I have kept the random dungeons to a minimum so far, just doing the daily for the XP and then on the odd occassion for quests.

Thinking about moving on to Dragonblight now, having an enforced break though, 24hr maintenance starts for us in an hour or so.

[Samantha Pattison]

After a 2 week hiatus, I'm baaaaaack.
I've been playing WoW a lot lately though, got my Warlock a 5k gearscore, throwing out 6k+ dps in raids on him now, he's really fun. Chaos Bolt crits = win.
he's only got like 3300 spellpower raid buffed though, end game locks have that unbuffed, even more so. But he's still a fun character.
I power leveled tailoring on my Lock also to get some of the perks of tailoring, like the back enchant, and basically free leg enchants, not to mention my new Flying Frost Carpet mount! Chyeah.

[Steven Hardman]

My warlock is a tailor as well.

Well, here's my Rogue a few days after hitting 80 so far. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dragonmaw&cn=Hanibalecter I really need to get some better items like my helmet, neck, and trinks. Been running ToC ALL DAY and still haven't gotten the Banner of Victory.

[john palmer]

You could also use some more hit rating, amdavis, you're way under cap. I suggest getting the Mark of Supremacy from Triumph badges? 100+ hit, and a AP proc on use.

[ILy- Forver]

You could also use some more hit rating, amdavis, you're way under cap. I suggest getting the Mark of Supremacy from Triumph badges? 100+ hit, and a AP proc on use.

I'm trying, hard to farm when my average queue is 30 mins...

Also Elitistjerks has the rogue special attack hit at 5/5 Precision at 99 and poison cap at 237.

[His Bella]

Yeah for specials, but rogues need a lot more hit than just special attacks, melee makes up a lot of your damage, depending on what spec I guess, but most rogues I see have 300+ hit for raiding, just because missing those whites really lowers your DPS. Of coarse you can't realistically cap white attacks, that's like 700+ hit, but the more the merrier. Especially when you don't have amazing gear, and fresh 80's aren't basking in AP/ArP, so the more hit, the more whites land, the more DPS. When you get better gear, yeah you will want to drop hit for other stats, but not yet.
Also, don't trust everything you read on EJ lol. I've read numerous flaws in their rotations, explanations, etc, about Fury Warriors. :facepalm:
If you want to get some advice, find out what guild is the top on your server, find their rogues, look him up on the armory, look at his spec, and then whisper him for his rotation, people like that are usually pretty decent guys. Also, look at his parses online at wowmeteronline or some similar site, see what his top 3 attacks are, and aim for that once you get decently good gear.
That's what I did with my lock, a few days ago I couldn't break 2k loldps, and I did what I just mentioned for the best lock on my server, now I'm pushing 6k in nothing but badge gear lol.

[Avril Churchill]

How about just playing for fun, instead of having it as a second job where you do everything to maximize your efficiency at pressing buttons?

[Nicholas C]

How about just playing for fun, instead of having it as a second job where you do everything to maximize your efficiency at pressing buttons?

What?
Theorycrafting and playing to maximize myself is what I find fun about the game. And theorycrafting is very fun. What's wrong with wanting to actually be good at the game? :huh:

[Eliza Potter]

What?
Theorycrafting and playing to maximize myself is what I find fun about the game. And theorycrafting is very fun. What's wrong with wanting to actually be good at the game? :huh:

Well, if you think it's fun, good for you. But can't people also get abit too caught up in the theorycrafting that they are missing out on alot of other things WoW has to offer?

[Averielle Garcia]

I learned a long time ago to just enjoy the game the way I want to, and let others do the same. Theorycrafting definitely isn't for me, while some people do get all :drool: about it. To each his or her own.

It's when people turn elitist that things get ugly. I recently /ignored someone in LFD because they spent half the run criticizing me for not taking two gathering professions like they had :blink: And once I was "reprimanded" by an RPer because I was running through Org.

[Vera Maslar]

I've experienced pretty much everything that WoW has to offer, enjoyed it, all the while theorycrafting and wanting to be the best player I can be. There is no limit to your experience from being a theorycrafter and researching things. I don't really see the correlation between the two. I do both, and it's not like it's hard.
Sure theorycrafting isn't for some, and that's just fine. But for someone asking my advice on something, and I give it, and you jump down my throat about it? That's not fine. If he wants to use the advice to better himself as a player, awesome. If he doesn't, that's just fine too.
And I could easily turn your own argument against theorycrafting around on you. You say that you can't experience what the game has to offer if you want to be a good player (?), yet, you will not get into raids if you don't know how to play your class correctly. No one is going to invite a rogue with spirit gems with 15 talent points in each tree with 30 unspent points. Researching your class, rotation, gear, etc, lets you get into raids, aka, experiencing what the game has to offer, and you will not get into raids without doing this. That's a part of raiding - knowing your class, to perform a role in a raid focused on team work.

[Marnesia Steele]

I learned a long time ago to just enjoy the game the way I want to, and let others do the same. Theorycrafting definitely isn't for me, while some people do get all :drool: about it. To each his or her own.

It's when people turn elitist that things get ugly. I recently /ignored someone in LFD because they spent half the run criticizing me for not taking two gathering professions like they had :blink: And once I was "reprimanded" by an RPer because I was running through Org.

Where you on an RP server when that happened? Because if not, that guy can just shut his damn mouth honestly. There's a reason RP servers exist.

[jessica breen]

That's what I did with my lock, a few days ago I couldn't break 2k loldps, and I did what I just mentioned for the best lock on my server, now I'm pushing 6k in nothing but badge gear lol.

My main is a destruction lock which I won't post but it's a pretty simple rotation. Curse of Elements->Immolate->Conflagrate->Chaos Bolt->Incinerate spam. Priorities are Immolate then Conflagrate then Chaos Bolt. I think if you have a laserchicken you can use Curse of Agony or Doom instead. I never get to have one in my raids so I'm not sure.

Glyphs I use are Immolate Incinerate and Conflagrate. Through trials and errors by me I found that Immolate glyph beats out the Life Tap one because it helps boost Incinerate and simplifies facerolling across the keyboard. You should never run out of mana with improved soul leech.

http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=9&tal=000000000000000000000000000003310030003000000000000000005203105220331051335230351 Only differences I see are that I put destructive reach over demonic power (helps with mobility fights) and demonic embrace over fel synergy. (that fairly new avoidance buff helps keep demons alive)

[Syaza Ramali]

The rotation I use for Destro at the moment is Corruption>Curse of Agony/Elements (depending on raid make-up) Immolate>Chaos Bolt>Conflag>Incin spam.
I choose personally to hit Conflag after Chaos Bolt because I feel it has a better flow to it, given that Conflag becomes active a split second after you Immolate, there is a small delay that makes the rotation a little clunky; I find that hitting Chaos Bolt after Immolate lets the GCD's roll off each other a bit more smooth.

[Eve(G)]

I've experienced pretty much everything that WoW has to offer, enjoyed it, all the while theorycrafting and wanting to be the best player I can be. There is no limit to your experience from being a theorycrafter and researching things. I don't really see the correlation between the two. I do both, and it's not like it's hard.
Sure theorycrafting isn't for some, and that's just fine. But for someone asking my advice on something, and I give it, and you jump down my throat about it? That's not fine. If he wants to use the advice to better himself as a player, awesome. If he doesn't, that's just fine too.
And I could easily turn your own argument against theorycrafting around on you. You say that you can't experience what the game has to offer if you want to be a good player (?), yet, you will not get into raids if you don't know how to play your class correctly. No one is going to invite a rogue with spirit gems with 15 talent points in each tree with 30 unspent points. Researching your class, rotation, gear, etc, lets you get into raids, aka, experiencing what the game has to offer, and you will not get into raids without doing this. That's a part of raiding - knowing your class, to perform a role in a raid focused on team work.

Well, that's true to an extent but you don't have to be a particularly good player to get into raids. I've seen the vast majority of Naxx, Ulduar and ICC (At the points they were the latest raids) and that's with a 5.5k GS Mage being manned by a distinctly average player in myself. I also see a difference between class basics (Rotations, Glyphs, gems, Enchants and gear selection) and actual theorycrafting, which I see as the numbercrunching stuff that explores the "behind the scene" mechanics of the game, you know, the interaction of the various statistics that basically make the combat in this game.

I do adopt a "to each his own" philosophy though, people are welcome to as much Rp'ing, theorycrafting and hardcoe raiding as they want, just as long as I can do what I want.

[R.I.p MOmmy]

Only use corruption while moving. It shouldn't be a part of your main rotation. About the conflagrate<-> chaos bolt order it doesn't rally matter i think. Just personal preference like you said. Almost hit 11k dps on 10 man Fire Watcher in VoA yesterday. My lock has mostly 251 gear with 4pc t10. Once you get the gear expect insane Incinerate numbers. I've gotten crits for 21k before.


Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_Test :laugh: But I can understand the appeal of other parts to people. To each their own.

[Jenna Fields]

Well I personally think that an extra 1k damage every second is worth 1 GCD at the beginning of a rotation, I find it helps with lower gear. At your gear level yeah, I probably wont need to do it.
I'm not near your gear level on my lock yet though; I'm mostly 232 gear with about half and half 245, and 1 264 piece *frost badge cloak*.
I'm still rocking 4 piece tier 9, with 1 piece of 9.5. My GS is only 5k.
I did a heroic yesterday on my Warrior for the first time *5.9k GS* and I was like..oh..yeah..I remember how it feels to do 10k+ dps haha.

[Bee Baby]

And by the way, that's the exact build I use actually. I'm pretty sure. It's the best raiding destro spec IMO.
Oops, sorry for double post. I'm used to the MMOChampion boards, post merge if you DP. :sadvaultboy:

[Keeley Stevens]

Been away for a while so I thought I'd update the characters that I currently play on WoW.

Gloves - http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bladefist&cn=Gloves(Soon to be an Orc as I'm transferring back to horde)
and the warlock that I'm currently leveling -http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bladefist&cn=Or%C3%B3chimaru

Also got into the Cataclsym beta and leveled that Death Knight to 83 (downloading the latest patch that will allow me to get to 85). Loving the new Rune system for both DPS and tanking.

Frost DPS on the live realms is insane. Pushing 11k+ with pretty poor gear as you can see in the armoury link without much effort. On a fight like Sindragosa where the "Chilled to the Bone" debuff stacks twice as quick due to the way Threat of Thassarian works, I drop down to about 9k as I have to completely stop attacking every 10 seconds or so to let the debuff drop.

[Anna S]

Can you elaborate on the new rune system? I've heard nothing about it. What's different? Does it allow for more smooth gameplay?
And you call that poor gear? 0.o