Make sure to check in with Caius Cosades. I heard he might be getting Recalled:
"Internal politics. Some concern about my sugar. I thought about refusing the recall. But they have members of my family back in the capital. I'm afraid it may have something to do with the problems with the succession. As the Emperor's health declines, factions are maneuvering for advantage. I may be gone a while -- that's why you're promoted to Operative."

Now take a quick trip over to Ebonheart and ask some of the locals about the Unrest in Cyrodiil City:
"Uriel Septim is sick, and wizards say his heir, Geldall Septim, and the younger Septims, Enman and Ebel, are just doppelgangers placed in the household during Jagar Tharn's tenure as Imperial Battlemage. They say the Guard charged a mob demanding destruction of the false heirs... lots of folks were killed."

Now comes TES IV. Uriel VII has died. The palace guards try to hold back yet another angry mob. But the strength and number of the people are too great. The guards are overwhelmed. The gate of the Imperial Palace is smashed and the angry crowd floods into the palace. Geldall, Enman and Ebel are killed. We will never know if they were the true sons of Uriel VII or if they were indeed Tharn's co-conspirators. Now the only thing that can be done is to find Uriel's bastard son! That will be quite a task, since Calaxes Septimhttp://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-lady-benochs-words-and-philosophy was supposedly killed in the Temple of the One thirty-five years ago. I say supposedly since his assassination has always been but a rumor. And if Calaxes is found to be alive and is crowned as the Emperor, would he fight to keep the Empire together? Or rather, would he establish a Theocracy in its place, as he advocated before his "disappearance"?

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Why are you looking at me like that? Oh, right. Lemme see, from the start, Uriel VII http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMjakNhZTc, his children were killed by the writers the Mythic Dawn, and Cyrodiil City the Imperial City is quiet and calm. But we still need to find Uriel's bastard son! Remember, Calaxes's death was never confir-- crap, not again! Sorry, I forgot that Uriel had another bastard son that we had never heard of before. Well, let's get too it. At least I hope he has a name as cool as Calaxes.

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Basically, it makes sense for this "Dovahkiin" fellow to be Tiber Septim, just like it made sense for Cyrodiil to be in complete chaos or for Calaxes to be Uriel's bastard son (in TES IV's plot). But the track-record for sensical continuity isn't too impressive. As such, I very much doubt that Dovahkiin will be Tiber, or a reincarnation/avatar of Tiber. My money is in D-kiin being a whole new, never-before-seen character, like that-guy-whose-name-isn't-as-cool-as-Calaxes.

And I really hope that I'm completely wrong!

What is this, i don't even know...O__ORP?

Sadly true.

Oh c'mon! Compared to the complexity of the lore of the Elder Scrolls series (particularly Morrowind), what I wrote is absolutely straight-forwards.

It didn't make any sense tho I mean for one thing it didn't even say that it was going to be a RP kinda deal, you just started writing out of no were

This isn't a role-playing thread. Sometimes I use different writing styles. Essentially, I am pointing out -- in a somewhat entertaining way, I hope -- that the ES developers seem to set themselves up for a particularly interesting ES sequel, only to veer off into Bland City via the New Crap We Just Made Up Expressway.

The rumors in Morrowind suggest that Uriel was going to died of his illness, but instead the writers invented a new death: assassination by the Mythic Dawn.
The rumors in Morrowind suggest that his sons were going to be killed because of the suspicion that they were Tharn's doppelgangers, but instead the writers invented a new death: assassination by the Mythic Dawn.
The book "Words and Philosophy" in Morrowind tells us that Uriel already has an illegitimate son named Calaxes. But the writers invented a new illegitimate son: Marti-- I mean, that that-guy-whose-name-isn't-as-cool-as-Calaxes.

Well, They don't want you to revisit the same Province twice. Also, we hear about the next Elder Scrolls games in rumors apparently. In Morrowind we heard of trouble with Deadra in the Imperial Province, and in Oblivion we heard of things getting Violent in SKyrim.

Er, I didn't say anything to that effect.

But, just so I can be a pedantic dee-bag, we've already revisited High Rock (Daggerfall), Hammerfell (Daggerfall), Morrowind (Morrowind) and Cyrodiil (Oblivion), 'cause Arena featured the entire Empire. [Insert big, stupid grin here]


Yes, but I was pointing out the rumors that were pushed aside in favor of new, simpler and less sensible plot points.

No one can just be happy that we are getting ESV? worry about this crap later. For now, BE HAPPY!

This

cool story bro
nah i cant even bring myself to use my typical sarcastic comment here
but on a possitive note it was kinda funny to read

I agree with what he said. Instead of lore being piled on top of eachother, requiring you to know the lore to be on top of things, they create new, simplified lore for each game. A good strategy honestly, though I wish they'd be more consistent, and more complex.

Why all the backlash at this thread? This guy is completely right...

How long should I wait? The gaming media wasn't critical about Oblivion until the release of Fallout 3, so maybe I should wait until Fallout 4 is released before I start commenting on Skyrim?

Look, I think we should all be working under the assumption that what we say in this forum will, in part, "trickle up" to the Skyrim development team. Changes become progressively more difficult to make as the release date approaches.

Now is the time to be thoughtful. Now is the time to write something of significance. Now is the time to be critical.

Amen.

Apparently some people found it difficult to comprehend a very straight-forward post.

The OP is absolutely correct, and this sort of stuff does need to stop. Bethesda really need to figure out what they're doing with their lore/storylines and just stick with it.

If you think I'm wrong, write a rebuttal.

Better yet, write a convincing defense of the notion that we should just sit around with our thumbs up our rectums until an undefined amount of time has passed.

The problem is that the people who stay on top of things are like "What the heck?" when the storylines don't really match up at all. And one would think those people were the more reliable source of funding, but whatever.

Dovahkiin is Dragon born.

Tiber Septim was Dragon Born.

Just because someone is Dragon born does not mean that they are Tiber Septim reincarnated.

The blades are not sworn to serve and protect the Septims, they are sworn to serve and protect the Dragonborn.

And they make a rumour for each province to keep their bases covered or throw us off.

They're definitely not the more reliable source of funding. Generously, I'd say 20% of people who played Oblivion knew anything at all about the lore. The mainstream is where the money is.

But of course I completely agree with the OP.

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Forgot to put the "not" in.

And the "k" in "knew" :facepalm:

Less the specific subject at hand and more the "Oh hey, look what else Oblivion screwed up miserably. :smug:" nature of the delivery, I imagine. That and I suppose that the OP's pissing and moaning that Bethesda decided not to follow through to the letter a single pair of throwaway conversation topics; yes, heaven forbid that speculation about future events doesn't turn out absolutly correct.

You can't help but be smug in your own retort, so why's his smugness so irritating? They weren't "throwaway conversation topics." Odfrid White-Lip's prophesy and these heavily, foreshadowing topics were all the forums speculated with for years.

So while they were plotting out and writing Skyrim, they decide to bring in an author to write 2 background canon novels that build upon and fill in the gap of lore between it and Oblivion; and before you understand anything about Dovahkiin or who the Dragons are or anything like that, you say you hate it? Jumping the gun a little early?

No it doesn't. The backdrop of Oblivion (with hints about it in Morrowind) was that the time of the Septims was at an end. It was the end of an era, and the Septims are now gone. If you're going to complain that Oblivion didn't follow some rumors in Morrowind, why would you not complain if Skyrim didn't follow Oblivion's story? In fact, it even says at the end of Oblivion's main quest, "The last of the Septims passes now into history. [...] The Third Age has ended, and a new age dawns." Why would you want to bring back someone who should not exist, and has no claim on the 4th Era?