Updating Morrowind Tools and Mods : III

» Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:00 pm

Recently I got my Morrowind folder back to life and after some testing it's stable but many mods are outdated so I'm trying to update all files.

Unfortunatelly I'm running into problems I would like to discuss here and get some advice on how to solve them.

The first tool I want to update is my old Mlox 0.57 version to check my load order.

I downloaded the current Mlox 0.60 and checked my load order. Beside all the warnings it presented a new load order which I accepted.

Then I recreated Mashed Lists and updated my saves in Wyre Mash and loaded the game to check if everything worked fine.

I did not recreate Merged Objects with this new load order yet, because this too is causing troubles.

Here my old load order:

Spoiler

Morrowind.esm
Tribunal.esm
Bloodmoon.esm
Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
GDR_MasterFile.esm
Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
Texture Fix 2.0.esm
Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
TR_Data.esm
TR_Mainland.esm
Thief_quests.esp
Ald_Ruhn_TG_Devil_Tanto_Tweak.esp
Thief Experience Overhaul 1.3b (Tribunal) (Combined).esp
master_index.esp
Hair_Pack_III_Tiaras.esp
SirLuthor-Tools.esp
Unique Banners and Signs.esp
Better Bodies.esp
Windows Glow.esp
Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
Loincloth_top_ pkg2.esp
JEB_muffin_fix.esp
Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
Chainmail Tops+Slips 1.3.esp
AK_IndarysGreathouse.esp
Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
tanktop.esp
Amazon War Boots 1.0.esp
ALDagothOutfit.esp
Amazon Platemail Greaves 2.0.esp
Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
Tribun_Laura_3_0.esp
Akavirian Armor V 1.0.esp
AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
abotWindowsGlow.esp
Amazon Tops.esp
constance1_0.esp
Statue Replacer - Normal.esp
bones.esp
Shieldfx.esp
Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
Frost_atronach_solsthiem.esp
Vality's Balmora Addon.esp
LGNPC_SeydaNeen.esp
BetterClothesForTB.esp
LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
Clean Elynda'sWinterWear.esp
LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_MaarGan.esp
Creatures.esp
Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp
LGNPC_HlaOad.esp
LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
Bloated Caves.esp
Better_Sounds.esp
LGNPC_TelMora_v1_30.esp
LGNPC_Khuul_v2_21.esp
correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
Spirit's MGSO Daedric Armor Fixes.esp
Daedric Tweaks.esp
LGNPC_VivecFQ.esp
Eyren_Robes.esp
Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
Emma_bret_headp2.esp
MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp
Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
LGNPC_VivecRedoran.esp
LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
Better Skulls.ESP
Graphic Herbalism.esp
ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
almalexia armor.esp
Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp
More Better Clothes.ESP
DreadKnight.ESP
Golden Gold.esp
Animated Morrowind.esp
New Voices.esp
Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.esp
abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
Sleepers, Awake!.esp
Antares' Creatures - Trolls!.esp
Antares' Creatures - Treant.esp
Antares' Creatures - Frost Giant.esp
TheRedoran_v1_00.esp
guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
UniqueFinery.esp
Draugr Deathlord.esp
Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp
Clean MCFC_1.0.esp
imperial chain fix.esp
Starfire lite.esp
UF_HortRobeF001.esp
Antares' Creatures - Frost Monarch.esp
Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp
Antares' Big Mod 5.7.esp
Antares' Creatures - Hill Giant.esp
New Bodies - Mature.esp
Female Armor - Complete.esp
Better Weapons and Armors.esp
OTR_Coast_Variety.esp
STA_guides_replacer.esp
MW Containers Animated.esp
mel_teleportPlugin_1_3_Patches.esp
Umbra, Blademaster.ESP
Sotha Sil Expanded.ESP
New Widowmaker.ESP
AkulakhanCloud (Optional).ESP
Better Morrowind Armor.esp
Better Morrowind Armour Add-On 2.0.esp
sm_Morokei.ESP
Juniper's Twin Lamps (1.1 Tribunal).esp
DM_DB Armor Replacer.esp
NOM 3.0.esp
NOM3fix.esp
SSE_NOM.ESP
NoM_BF Compatibility Patch.esp
Merged_Objects.esp
Creatures Merged Objects Fix.esp
Mashed Lists.esp

Here is the new one by Mlox 0.60

Spoiler

Morrowind.esm
Tribunal.esm
Bloodmoon.esm
Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
GDR_MasterFile.esm
Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
Texture Fix 2.0.esm
Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
TR_Data.esm
TR_Mainland.esm
Thief_quests.esp
Ald_Ruhn_TG_Devil_Tanto_Tweak.esp
ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
almalexia armor.esp
Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp
Clean MCFC_1.0.esp
imperial chain fix.esp
Starfire lite.esp
UF_HortRobeF001.esp
Antares' Creatures - Frost Monarch.esp
Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp

DM_DB Armor Replacer.esp
Antares' Big Mod 5.7.esp
Antares' Creatures - Hill Giant.esp
New Bodies - Mature.esp
Female Armor - Complete.esp
Better Weapons and Armors.esp
OTR_Coast_Variety.esp
STA_guides_replacer.esp
MW Containers Animated.esp
Juniper's Twin Lamps (1.1 Tribunal).esp
SSE_NOM.ESP
Creatures.esp
Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp
Thief Experience Overhaul 1.3b (Tribunal) (Combined).esp
master_index.esp
Hair_Pack_III_Tiaras.esp
SirLuthor-Tools.esp
Unique Banners and Signs.esp
Better Bodies.esp
Windows Glow.esp
Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
Loincloth_top_ pkg2.esp
JEB_muffin_fix.esp
Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
Chainmail Tops+Slips 1.3.esp
AK_IndarysGreathouse.esp
Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
tanktop.esp
Amazon War Boots 1.0.esp
ALDagothOutfit.esp
Amazon Platemail Greaves 2.0.esp
Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
Tribun_Laura_3_0.esp
Akavirian Armor V 1.0.esp
AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
abotWindowsGlow.esp
Amazon Tops.esp
constance1_0.esp
Statue Replacer - Normal.esp
bones.esp
Shieldfx.esp
Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
Frost_atronach_solsthiem.esp
Vality's Balmora Addon.esp
LGNPC_SeydaNeen.esp
BetterClothesForTB.esp
LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
Clean Elynda'sWinterWear.esp
LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_MaarGan.esp
LGNPC_HlaOad.esp
LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
Bloated Caves.esp
Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp
More Better Clothes.ESP
DreadKnight.ESP
Golden Gold.esp
Animated Morrowind.esp
New Voices.esp
Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.esp
abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
Sleepers, Awake!.esp
Antares' Creatures - Trolls!.esp
Antares' Creatures - Treant.esp
Antares' Creatures - Frost Giant.esp
TheRedoran_v1_00.esp
guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
UniqueFinery.esp
Draugr Deathlord.esp
mel_teleportPlugin_1_3_Patches.esp
Umbra, Blademaster.ESP
Sotha Sil Expanded.ESP
New Widowmaker.ESP
AkulakhanCloud (Optional).ESP
Better_Sounds.esp
LGNPC_TelMora_v1_30.esp
LGNPC_Khuul_v2_21.esp
correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
Spirit's MGSO Daedric Armor Fixes.esp
Daedric Tweaks.esp
LGNPC_VivecFQ.esp
Eyren_Robes.esp
Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
Emma_bret_headp2.esp
MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp
Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
LGNPC_VivecRedoran.esp
LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
Better Skulls.ESP
Graphic Herbalism.esp
Better Morrowind Armor.esp
Better Morrowind Armour Add-On 2.0.esp
sm_Morokei.ESP
NOM 3.0.esp
NOM3fix.esp
NoM_BF Compatibility Patch.esp
Merged_Objects.esp
Creatures Merged Objects Fix.esp
Mashed Lists.esp

I got one mod sorted wrong: DM_DB Armor Replacer.esp was placed before Better Morrowind Armor.esp and got overwritten.

Placed it after Better Morrowind Armor.esp manually and the armor was displayed in game.

With the new load order I have no problems with old saves, but if I try to start a new game I get this warrning:

Unable to find referenced object "tl_mineguard2" in script "TL_CaderaUprisin".

Can't find any of those files in my Data folder. Any ideas what could cause this error?

» Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:38 pm

Open this script in Construction Set (gameplay -> edit scripts) and see what it does, maybe you will find out which mod it belongs to and get any hints.

Your game crashes or loads on start?

» Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:09 pm

I can add something about that into mlox, if someone's loading a specifc armour replacer mod then it makes sense they ant it to load after a general one like Moranor's
Those guards are from Brother Juniper's Twin Lamps. Both Pumaman's Advanced Guard and NazoX9's Guards remove the Twin Lamps mod's guards. Loading Brother Juniper's mod after them fixes that problem.

Not sure what's the mod causing the problem for you here, I guess the principle is the same: you've a guard-affecting mod loading after the Twin Lamps mod.