Uriel's Sons : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:07 pm

I can never remember two of their names. I know Geldal, the eldest one, but what were the names of the younger heirs?

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:07 pm

Enman, Ebel, Martin.
If my memory is still intact.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:31 am

Enman, Ebel, Martin.
If my memory is still intact.

Geldall too.

EDIT: Disregard this, did not read the OP closely enough and realize you were just informing him of the other three.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:51 am

We actually don't know how much younger or older Martin is in relation to the other three. Presumably, when Uriel's marriage was on the rocks was when he began sleeping around, so maybe after Ebel, but he also could've had a steady stream of mistresses throughout his marriage. He is the Emperor, after all.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:28 pm

One more question: Do we know the name of Uriel's wife?

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:03 am

Let me do some digging for you, hold on.

Edit: Caula Voria. Uriel's biography says that despite being loved by the people, Uriel realized she was mostly in it for the power.

Hmmm, here's something interesting. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/caius-cosades-visit-uriel-viis-tomb has Caius speculating about a girl put off to the side after the Warp in the West as Martin's mother.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:32 am

Calaxes also, another bastard.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:49 am

Calaxes, may the bastard rot in Oblivion, is not related to the Septim Family.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:45 am

Calaxes, may the bastard rot in Oblivion, is not related to the Septim Family.

The Septim Family isn't related to the Septim Family....

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:47 pm

Calaxes, may the bastard rot in Oblivion, is not related to the Septim Family.

isn't Uriel his father? How is he not a Septim? Who is Calaxes anyway? What did he do?

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:03 am

isn't Uriel his father? How is he not a Septim? Who is Calaxes anyway? What did he do?

A bastard son, in pretty much every sense of the word according to the UESP and IL. Got made the Archbishop of the One, butted heads with dad over the powers of the church, and was allegedly advocating rebellion so a full-blown theocracy could be set up in the Empire's place (no doubt with him being the Divine's messenger, no doubt). Vanished in 398 before anything had a chance to boil over, and some folks think it was an inside job involving the Guard.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:07 am

isn't Uriel his father? How is he not a Septim? Who is Calaxes anyway? What did he do?

Really? I thought the bold gave away my facetious tone.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:19 pm

A bastard son, in pretty much every sense of the word according to the UESP and IL. Got made the Archbishop of the One, butted heads with dad over the powers of the church, and was allegedly advocating rebellion so a full-blown theocracy could be set up in the Empire's place (no doubt with him being the Divine's messenger, no doubt). Vanished in 398 before anything had a chance to boil over, and some folks think it was an inside job involving the Guard.

If he vanished in 398, then that means Jagar Tharn was still impersonating the Emperor. Perhaps Calaxes knew more than has been let on.

» Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:13 am

If he vanished in 398, then that means Jagar Tharn was still impersonating the Emperor. Perhaps Calaxes knew more than has been let on.

I doubt in 398, to be honest.
It cames from the "http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Words_and_Philosophy", where it's dates 498, which is obviously a typo; so it was fixed to 398.
But according the book Lady Benoch began to fight only two years earlier (in 396). No way she cold become elite Emperor's guard for such short time. So I think there was typo in the second digit, not in the first. Therefore 408, or even 418, and not 398.