If USA was bad...

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:15 am

I looked at the wiki, and it does not give any hints at what happened to china. When I first started playing Fallout 3, I thought "Wow, if the US is this bad, I want to see China." Now I'm not so sure. Is there any mention of this?
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Matthew Barrows
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:12 am

My guess is that China ended up just as bad (if not worst off) then the US. But we only have very limited information about how pre-war China was like or whether or not they have their own version of a safe house project to protect their own citizens. It is likely that every single Chinese city west of Xian got nuked (China's simulation for the worst case situation in case of a nuclear war in real life). But since it is shown that it is possible for a certain amount of the population to survive even without vaults, I think it is reasonable to think that at lease some people made it in China.

If a Fallout game is based on China, it would be really interesting for me to see how my own hometown ended up...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:37 am

My guess is that China ended up just as bad (if not worst off) then the US. But we only have very limited information about how pre-war China was like or whether or not they have their own version of a safe house project to protect their own citizens. It is likely that every single Chinese city west of Xian got nuked (China's simulation for the worst case situation in case of a nuclear war in real life). But since it is shown that it is possible for a certain amount of the population to survive even without vaults, I think it is reasonable to think that at lease some people made it in China.

If a Fallout game is based on China, it would be really interesting for me to see how my own hometown ended up...


From what I understand of the timeline, when the exchange began the US Army's T-51b equipped units were just outside Beijing..if that was true the city itself probably would not have been targeted. After the war, they would have been marooned in China as there would have been no way to get home even if they wanted to. I could see them settling down and intermarrying with the people around them...perhaps forming some sort of pocket empire...and by 2277 they could only be told apart from other Chinese by thier names, stories handed down from thier ancestors, remaining pre-war US equipment, and the occasional child born to them with blue eyes or blond or red hair. By then they may not even speak English anymore, or use it much if they still know it. It would have been fun DLC for the Lone Wanderer to go there, perhaps courtesy of the MZ mothership, for a time if they could come up with a good reason for it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:50 am

I think there was a cancelled Fallout game where you would actually go to China to get this nuke thing.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:49 pm

I believe Mr Tenpenny has something to do with china. Go check his computer inside Tenpnny tower and it tells about some secretive organization Mr tenpenny and Burke is working for..
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:13 am

My guess is that it's about the same as the U.S., except it might be a little better off due to there being more uninhabited areas that may not have been targeted by bombs. That, and now the toys they make there are full of lead and radiation.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:20 am

From what I understand of the timeline, when the exchange began the US Army's T-51b equipped units were just outside Beijing..if that was true the city itself probably would not have been targeted. After the war, they would have been marooned in China as there would have been no way to get home even if they wanted to. I could see them settling down and intermarrying with the people around them...perhaps forming some sort of pocket empire...and by 2277 they could only be told apart from other Chinese by thier names, stories handed down from thier ancestors, remaining pre-war US equipment, and the occasional child born to them with blue eyes or blond or red hair. By then they may not even speak English anymore, or use it much if they still know it. It would have been fun DLC for the Lone Wanderer to go there, perhaps courtesy of the MZ mothership, for a time if they could come up with a good reason for it.


Beijing actually had a high chance of being nuked a dozen times like Washington, regardless if the American soldiers were just outside the city. I would also assume China would have a large Deathclaw population since Deathclaws are pre-war, but Super Mutants should be non-existant (unless the Enclave managed to transport some to China post-war?). China most likely lacked a Project Safehouse type plan considering that US troops were running rampant throughout the country, so its probably more desolate than the US.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:10 am

Fallout 5 could be set in China. Wouldn't that be awesome.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:21 am

Chins is probably almost completely destroyed, at least, the Eastern side. China has such a high population density along the coast and around the yangtze, that I would be surprised if the US did not just completely destroy the entire Chinese Coast.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:12 am

China would actually be better off in a sense. The Eastern coast of China would look much like the D.C ruins except as China was perfecting conventional weaponry, many of the more serious mutations would not exist. Eastern Coast, wiped out with humans scattered around, living in basemants, concrete public shelters, and maybe even going into North Korean "vaults."

The West coast would be so much more different. Many structures in Tibet and near that part would be perfectly sound with a couple cracks from the shock waves and the fallout killing maybe a couple people. But in any case, the Himalayas would provide a natural shelter for the initial blast and would significantly decrease the amount of fallout as the blast didn't reach them at all.

My guess is that Tibet and the other parts are living like Pre-War Tibet with electricity and live like Yak Herders or Goat Herders.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:22 am

Soylent Jade is people, Soylent Jade is people!!! That and no rad-resistance, ghoulificaiton, or super-mutation from FEV-2 exposure for humans like in the U.S. That or you get devoured by bipedal snakeheads and Yao Pandas.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:09 am

I believe Mr Tenpenny has something to do with china. Go check his computer inside Tenpnny tower and it tells about some secretive organization Mr tenpenny and Burke is working for..




As far as i know burke was working for the enclave through tenpenny and its not as if tenpenny wouldnt have like the enclaves idiology, he was an elitist and a racist and the enclaves right wing ideas would have suited him fine.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:13 am

As far as i know burke was working for the enclave through tenpenny and its not as if tenpenny wouldnt have like the enclaves idiology, he was an elitist and a racist and the enclaves right wing ideas would have suited him fine.


No...I dont think tenpenny is working for the Enclave, sure he doesn't like ghouls (although you can convince him to let them in) and the Enclave doesn't either but by that logic he could be working for the brotherhood as well (they apparently shoot indescriminately at ghouls). Sure prehaps he would agree in some ways with their idealogy, but keep in mind the Enclave would consider him a mutie as well. Also there is absolutely no evidence that they are in cahoots.

...and tenpenny is not racist....elitist prehaps...racist not at all...ghouls are not a "race", they are irradiated humans. Its not like tenpenny is a member of the KKK or something...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:51 am

I should have said burke was working for the enclave, and tenpenny had hired him and burke was using him to further the enclaves agenda, but their ideals were the same.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:43 am

I should have said burke was working for the enclave, and tenpenny had hired him and burke was using him to further the enclaves agenda, but their ideals were the same.


Now this could be an interesting theory since there is some evidence that Mr. Burke just "appeared out of nowhere" one day and started helping Mr. Tenpenny, and there really is no explanation of where he came from. It would also help to explain where he randomly got, an apparently rare, fusion pulse charge from. However since there really is no evidence in game of this other than speculation, its impossible to really say.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:07 pm

I would also assume China would have a large Deathclaw population since Deathclaws are pre-war


Deathclaws are mutated Jackson's Chameleons, they are not indigenous to China (or Asia, they are from Africa).
(Not even going to address Super Mutants).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:23 am

Fallout 5 could be set in China. Wouldn't that be awesome.


What about #4 then? Europe?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 pm

Deathclaws are mutated Jackson's Chameleons, they are not indigenous to China (or Asia, they are from Africa).
(Not even going to address Super Mutants).


Deathclaws are pre-war mutated Jackson Chameleons. USA made Deathclaws, Wanamingo and mole rats to cause alot of damage in China, they were all made before the great war.


I picture China as a land with massive swarms of highly radioactive glowing Ghouls. All of central Asia for that matter, swarms that came out of India as well. My guess would be China's population by time of the great war would be close to Two Billion. USA and other countries like the USSR would have used enough nukes to kill as many as they could. Reason why China has such a high population is because in the 1950s the thinking was America and USSR would only have a few thousand survivors of a nuclear while they would have a millions. Still knowing this China would have been hit at least a dozen times over what was needed to kill off their major cities to stop that theory from coming true. Anyone left alive would become a ghoul.

American troops occupied much of China which means there is a high chance America managed to capture many of China's land based missle sites. Still would not save them from being nuked.
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