@Warspirit: I couldn't honestly care less what Cry-Adam says about what the game is supposed to be, however, I did say that ultimately the game relies on map knowledge, situational awareness, and reaction speed the most (if you actually read my entire post, which most people don't ). All of those tend to lend themselves towards twitch shooters. After the length of time I've played C2, that's the end result I've come to.
Wow. The nice, reasonable SDub who can admit other people are right sometimes only existed for one post.

NinjaMatt2201, pardon me for stepping in, but I can't really understand your issue with the guy. I read the whole topic and didn't find SDub's posts in any way aggressive, arrogant or trollish: in fact he was just trying to be useful, sharing his experience and knowledge. IMHO he's one of the really useful and reasonable members of our small community.

No reason for further arguments here, you just need to schedule a match together and see each other's tricks and performance. One of you may find something to learn from the other

Wow. The nice, reasonable SDub who can admit other people are right sometimes only existed for one post.

Mentioning what Cry-Adam thinks of the game lights a fire under me. The guy is a community developer who posts little to nothing on this forum. The only thing he does is lock threads every once in a while. He's just copy-pasting what his boss told him about the game. He doesn't have 300+ hours in this game like most of us here do. (Unless he's playing some account other than Cry-Adam).

I'm sorry for upsetting you.

Yeah, I almost made a snarky post at WaR_SPiRiT about "citing renowned gaming authority Cry-Adam", but i decided OP has got the snarky angle covered for this thread

Teehee yeh I agree about the Cry-Adam thing. Was just from a google search of "Crysis 2 Twitch Shooter".

I remember playing the first crysis. I had my controller plugged in after playing grid or dirt, when I started the game It acknowledged the controller, I didn't like this as my first person shooters are played with keyboard and mouse. but I thought I'd give it a go.. I was on a particularity difficult bit of the game your walking along with a blind wall to your left and as it turns in there are a good few NKA and as you get close there's a sniper on you and a few up a hill throwing grenades. I'm not the greatest gamer but I can hold my own against real people and AI was repeatedly killing me so with nothing to lose I played it with the controller the button layout is great but the control sticks even with adjustment made me feel like I was moving in toffee, but I easily defeated the AI... this puzzled me , my sidewinder mouse at 2000dpi and my keyboard got me killed. but the joy-pad won so to experiment I tried the section with the mouse and keyboard or the joy-pad using the same tactics each time.. I realized that the joy-pad lowers the IQ of the AI I could walk up to them or fire a few rounds and I would barely get acknowledged with the keyboard and mouse I had to duck strafe and run to stay alive. in multi-player I felt the same easier to duck jump and grenade but my movement and ability to move my head and aim was hampered and I died a lot. if you find yourself not great with fps because you find a keyboard excessive or not fast enough try something like the g13 or the sharkoon rush pad which is a cheaper choice .

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I've always wanted to try something like that, Weapon. Specifically the Razer one, but any will do for experimentation's sake.

And @WS

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I didn't say you NEED full arm movement. Just, when you look at the basics, it provides the most control.

I'm sorry if I'm boring you with a dead topic, but I think we're talking about two different things.

With a mouse, your fingers ( mostly ) don't control the movement of the mouse, the mouse is moved over a large area with your arm and it is usually at an effective ( hardware dpi * in game sensitivity ) lower DPI.

With a trackball, at least 3 of your fingers move independently over the balls surface to control its movement, the trackball moves by a small amount while your hand and arm remain fixed and you are usually at the highest effective DPI.

So, if we are to compare we should break the subject of aiming with an appendage down to its basic level : degrees of freedom.

With a controller you have 4 degrees of freedom from the main thumb joint, and 1 other from the remaining joint on the thumb for a total of 5 degrees of freedom.

With a mouse you have 4 degrees of freedom for your shoulder, 1 for the elbow, and 4 for your wrist for a total of 9.

With a trackball, assuming you don't use your arm at all, you have 4 degrees of freedom for your wrist, and assuming for the moment you use only 1 finger, 4 degrees of freedom for your knuckle joint plus 2 others for the remaining joints for a total of 10.

Now, I'm not saying that the mouse or trackball are any better than each other, just that when one uses each well, they're of equal precision. Obviously the controller has much less precision with only 5 degrees of freedom.

jdb2

Wow. The nice, reasonable SDub who can admit other people are right sometimes only existed for one post.

Mentioning what Cry-Adam thinks of the game lights a fire under me. The guy is a community developer who posts little to nothing on this forum. The only thing he does is lock threads every once in a while. He's just copy-pasting what his boss told him about the game. He doesn't have 300+ hours in this game like most of us here do. (Unless he's playing some account other than Cry-Adam).

I'm sorry for upsetting you.
Ok. Maybe you could have mentioned that you don't have any respect for Cry-Adam and why. We didn't have any context for your attack about him. You'll be more effective debating why he doesn't have the credentials to be good evidence for our case than just angrily attacking. Just the same I just realized I have been a bit hypocritical with my own angry attacks, and I should have just asked you to explain your point of view better. And for that I am sorry.

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jdb2 makes me want to try a trackball.