Valkyries?

Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:27 am

Any word as to whether Valkyries, in any fashion, will be included in TES V game?

And before the lore-lovers mentally slaps me silly, I know:

1. There's no reference to Valkyries in any TES game (or at least nothing comes up running a search on UEWP wiki).

2. There's no concept art for Valkyries.

3. To the best of my knowledge, there's been no reference to Valkyries in any of the press releases. Thus, the question.

They could be a humanoid, like Golden Saints. Since Skyrim is a Nordic culture, they would fit into the TES lore and mythos. Also, Bethesda has introduced new factions and creatures in each new TES game, so it's not completely out of the question. Even if it was just a set of armor . . .

And I realize, if it's not in the game now, Bethesda isn't going to add it. But I'd be thrilled if Bethesda would make a powerful, female warrior role model that wasn't just eye candy for guys.

~ Dani ~ :)
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Dominic Vaughan
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:41 pm

Would be nice, but I doubt it sadly. There's just no basis for it. But, that doesn't mean it couldn't be added, as it wouldn't be going against lore.
So why not?
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:33 am

LEAVE MY EYE CANDY ALONE!

On a serious note, I wouldn't be suprised if they were in, seeing that this is "related" to Viking culture (Don't worry fans, I didn't say that it "is" Viking culture.)

So yeah, I'd love to see them, maybe in some remote crypt.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:03 am

I think the Golden Saints are versions of valkyries. :confused:
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:28 am

I always thought Golden Saints were the TES version of valkyries.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:49 am

LEAVE MY EYE CANDY ALONE!


I'm fairly certain nothing I ever do will have any effect on the amount of eye candy this forum produces. :)

In fact, you could say you're like a kid . . . in a . . . "candy" store . . .


I think the Golden Saints are versions of valkyries. :confused:


Really? And what makes you think that?

Seriously, I'd like to know - because, if so, then Bethesda probably won't put them in the game.

~ Dani ~ :)
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:04 am

Saints are serious....will make you doub't your masculinity any chance they get........straight to the point no nonsense kind of girls....yeah rings Valkyries...

No thanks.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:50 am

No, haven't heard anything. Although, it's not something I think they'd mention at this stage you know? I don't think we'll hear about any specifics like this for a while. I mean, we don't even *know* the factions yet. We can guess some, but none are confirmed.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:09 pm

Seriously, I'd like to know - because, if so, then Bethesda probably won't put them in the game.

~ Dani ~ :)

Well they're spirits/daedra, mostly women, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7HTO3jP-_lk/Sreh7ePjLVI/AAAAAAAAE_8/AHsMIWqCgM0/s400/valkyrie.jpg, and have http://ii-prod-rw.marketlive.com/DesignToscano/images/products/en_us/detail/NE867040.jpg http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/17166/966144-gsaint_large.jpg helmets.

Not to mention they share the same unique personalitites and are both in service to a god. :shrug:

I think it would be cool to incorporate them into some Norse folklore though.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:16 am

I think the Golden Saints are versions of valkyries. :confused:

Same here.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:53 am

Well they're spirits/daedra, mostly women, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7HTO3jP-_lk/Sreh7ePjLVI/AAAAAAAAE_8/AHsMIWqCgM0/s400/valkyrie.jpg, and have http://ii-prod-rw.marketlive.com/DesignToscano/images/products/en_us/detail/NE867040.jpg http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/17166/966144-gsaint_large.jpg helmets.

Not to mention they share the same unique personalitites and are both in service to a god. :shrug:

I think it would be cool to incorporate them into some Norse folklore though.


Right, I understand they're quite similar (although silver is the color that is generally referenced with Valkyries, but now I'm splitting hairs) in most respects. And the role played by the Golden Saints in Shivering Isles is similar to that of Valkyries.

Sigh. You're probably right. So they probably won't be in the game. So sad . . .

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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:37 am

I think the Golden Saints are versions of valkyries. :confused:

Golden Saints pick courageous and proud soldiers on the battlefield and bring them to Walhall?
I highly doubt.

I highly doubt we'll see any valkyries and even any references to them.

Maybe Nord sisters called "Gondul" and "Skogul" would be a nice little reference.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:27 am

I don't know where you guys are getting the idea Golden Saints are Valkyries. A Valkyrie is a woman who chooses amongst half of souls to go to Valhalla and train for Ragnarok.

Golden Saints are Sheogoraths servants. They have nothing to do with each other, unless you mean the historically inaccurate winged helmet that vikings never wore.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:43 am

Golden Saints pick courageous and proud soldiers on the battlefield and bring them to Walhall?
I highly doubt.

There is no "Walhall" in TES. Of course they're not going to make Golden Saints exactly like the valkyries in real life mythology.

When does Bethesda ever do that with anything? Herp-Derp

I don't know where you guys are getting the idea Golden Saints are Valkyries. A Valkyrie is a woman who chooses amongst half of souls to go to Valhalla and train for Ragnarok.

Again, words like "Valhalla" and "Ragnarok" mean nothing here.

Golden Saints are Sheogoraths servants. They have nothing to do with each other, unless you mean the historically inaccurate winged helmet that vikings never wore.

I just made a list of similarities. Maybe you should take a look. And I thought we were talking about Valkyries not vikings... :huh:
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:41 pm

There is no "Walhall" in TES.

I was just comparing.
Golden Saints are far from valkyries.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:03 am


Again, words like "Valhalla" and "Ragnarok" mean nothing here.


Then niether does Valkyrie. Because unless they are implemented as some kind of "Soul Guider" bringing souls to an afterlife, they aren't valkyries, are they?
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:25 am

I was just comparing.
Golden Saints are far from valkyries.

Like I said, they're not going to make them exaclty like Valkyries from real mythology. :facepalm:

The similarities are way too strong to be interpreted as anything else. Saying you don't agree is one thing but saying this is far from that is another. They're almost identical in some aspects. Certainly not far from eachother. Very bad choice of words.

Then niether does Valkyrie. Because unless they are implemented as some kind of "Soul Guider" bringing souls to an afterlife, they aren't valkyries, are they?

There are no known afterlifes in TES besides other Daedric realms. The Shivering Isles is a Daedric realm. The Golden Saints keep peace in the Shivering Isles. Starting to make sense yet? It is, ofcourse, only an assumption but those who are claiming "Golden Saints are nothing like Valkyries" is being just plain silly.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:47 am

Then niether does Valkyrie. Because unless they are implemented as some kind of "Soul Guider" bringing souls to an afterlife, they aren't valkyries, are they?
Pretty much what I've been thinking. But, unless there is some established lore on what happens to dead Nords, they could be made to fit.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:08 pm


There are no known afterlifes in TES besides other Daedric realms. The Shivering Isles is a Daedric realm. The Golden Saints keep peace in the Shivering Isles. Starting to make sense yet? It is, ofcourse, only an assumption but those who are claiming "Golden Saints are nothing like Valkyries" is being just plain silly.


No, that doesn't make sense at all. The Golden Saints keep peace in Shivering Isles, Valkyries are not peace keepers. Golden Saints are NOTHING like Valkyries, in fact, they don't have one single thing in common other than being women. I doubt you even know the first thing about Norse mythology.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:27 pm

No, that doesn't make sense at all. The Golden Saints keep peace in Shivering Isles, Valkyries are not peace keepers. Golden Saints are NOTHING like Valkyries, in fact, they don't have one single thing in common other than being women. I doubt you even know the first thing about Norse mythology.
Wait, are you saying that Nord bandits wielding warhammers aren't supposed to be Thor? :(
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:21 am

No, they aren't. There were plenty of Nordic people wielding wahammers.

In fact, Thor's Mjolnir was not a warhammer at all. Please stop talking now.
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No, that doesn't make sense at all. The Golden Saints keep peace in Shivering Isles, Valkyries are not peace keepers. Golden Saints are NOTHING like Valkyries, in fact, they don't have one single thing in common other than being women. I doubt you even know the first thing about Norse mythology.

And you obviously don't know the first thing about TES. That's what this forum is about so I suggest you get with the program.

They're Peace Keepers as well as 'Soul Guiders' or whatever the hell you wanted to call them. If they gave me directions to New Sheoth, that's guiding.

Golden Saints and Valkyries don't have anything in common? What about this:

Well they're spirits/daedra, mostly women, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7HTO3jP-_lk/Sreh7ePjLVI/AAAAAAAAE_8/AHsMIWqCgM0/s400/valkyrie.jpg, and have http://ii-prod-rw.marketlive.com/DesignToscano/images/products/en_us/detail/NE867040.jpg http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/17166/966144-gsaint_large.jpg helmets.

Not to mention they share the same unique personalitites and are both in service to a god.

Read whole thread next time k?

Seriously, I don't even know why I bother with the daft ones. There's no point in explaining further because you won't understand anyway!

Done with you.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:34 pm

There are harpies in the lore, so valkyries would probably not be out of the question. The only thing is that we haven't heard of such beasts in Skyrim through lore. It is extremely possible though, since we don't know everything and Beth retcons/adds a few things here and there when a new game releases. Plus it's totally relevant to Viking culture, which is the main influence.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:10 am

No, they aren't. There were plenty of Nordic people wielding wahammers.

In fact, Thor's Mjolnir was not a warhammer at all. Please stop talking now.
Wow, it was a joke, calm down kid.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:37 am

As Valkyries look like Nord Women it would be easy to implement them. Design a new armor and weapons (SPEARS! :D), put them on hot blond chicks, put some dialogues, a quest or two, associate them to some god or daedra prince, (Azura sounds good) and voila: Valkyries are on the game. Pretty appropriate for the nordic theme.
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