Valton: The New Hold, OOC & Sign-Up Thread IX

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:14 pm

Alright alright, to help cement my position as the good cop to Gorbad's bad cop, Blade can have two characters. Gorbad is the stick and I am the carrot.

The only natural reason I have against double characters in a RP like this, is that means double the calamity if the Rper in question happens to disappear. It is also something that less experienced Rpers often fall back upon, creating more and more characters and never fully developing any of them. Asap's word is enough that neither of these will be a problem. :)

To tell the truth I don't have much against the concept of having two characters anyway. That is probably because in all my long years of Rping I've always had multiple characters, sometimes as many as five or six. Err, not that that's a good thing, haha.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:09 pm

Apart from the player's activity, I think that interacting with different players is more fun than interacting with different characters of the same player. Looking at the specific context of this RP, if you take up four key jobs in the hold, you're limiting others interaction options in this sense.

This is also not a problem in this situation in particular. And to clarify, I didn't mean to doubt Blade, being new to RPing I just don't know any better, I have a lot of respect for you guys, who've been doing this for so long. I was just throwing some thoughts into the concoction that some might find useful. I'm happy either way.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:42 pm

Oh goodness, what a stir I've created. I'm sure I saw in the OP that some people have 2 characters.

@ Smig: the issue about interacting with the same person should be non-existant as long as the RP'er can effectively write two different personalities. If you can achieve that, then I don't see why interacting with 2 characters would be inferior to interacting with 2 different RP'ers :)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:03 pm

I see what you mean, Smig. In a way I tend to agree, there is something quite fun about only having one role to fulfil in the town, and that being your whole experience of the RP. It also makes things much, much easier for everyone to keep track of. Gorbad RPs the Blacksmith, Vinny Rps the Court-Mage, and so-on. More a general guideline than anything though. I think this situation, of Rping a married couple, is an excellent time to break from it.

To tell the truth I don't know Blade either. Generally, I try to treat everyone the same, but certain recommendations or knowing an Rper well already can be useful. For instance, I'd give completely different advice to someone who was having their first ever RPing experience, to some old veteran. Not so much about making rules, but trying to help everyone do things at a level they can handle.

@Blade

Haha, don't worry. It's not so much a stir, we just love to debate everything back and forth here. Real symposium this OOC thread. Just look back at the discussions on the value of arrows, blood loss to wound size ratios, and what the correct term for the bit of the day after midday is. Thrilling debates, every one of them.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:31 pm

I just noticed how much Varyn resembles http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BtfejKs_mI4#t=49s Especiallyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BtfejKs_mI4#t=101s:P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:45 pm

@ Smig: to be fairm they'd both be shopkeepers so the name Blademaster would be associated with shopkeepers.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:00 pm

@ Smig: to be fairm they'd both be shopkeepers so the name Blademaster would be associated with shopkeepers.
About that; You should be the general-store shopkeeper... Because it's currently closed. Both of the previous owners RPers have disappeared into the void or "real-life" (pff, what-ever that is!) so the shop is up for grabs.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:16 pm

@Blade: I have absolutely no problem with that. My points were in response to Asap's broader questions that weren't necessarily linked to your case in particular. More of a philosophical discussion that you just happened to spark :tongue:

About your specific case, I think it will be a welcome addition of normality to the hold.

@Vincent: I agree with the rule and I agree that there's always room for exceptions. Tough decisions, that's what you're here for!

@Asap: Now that you mention it, that's exactly how I pictured him behaving. :D
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:01 pm

Umm Daroska... I honestly don't think your character should know more about daedric creatures than Leandra... Leandra, the daedric hunter, killed the clannfear. Then your character, a fisherman (who is a jack of all trades, but still) goes on and hears it's still alive and knows it's playing dead... It just isn't very believeable.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:00 am

Umm Daroska... I honestly don't think your character should know more about daedric creatures than Leandra... Leandra, the daedric hunter, killed the clannfear. Then your character, a fisherman (who is a jack of all trades, but still) goes on and hears it's still alive and knows it's playing dead... It just isn't very believeable.

He's argonian. He doesn't know more about daedra, he's just hearing the acute noise of the creature's heartbeat.
If you actually looked at the post on the page before, the same thing happened. The rest of the knowledge is through tribal lore.
The deadlands name would come from when the argonians overwhelmed the daedric realm in the Oblivion crisis.

The same knowledge was evident slightly in the argonian Mere-Glim, in the out of game official books: The Infernal City & The Lord of Souls.
Now I'm tired of this constant whining of my roleplaying posts, if you or Vincent are going to complain, send me a PM and I'll take in the criticism.
It might or might not be used to edit the post, but it'll make sure this thread isn't overwhelmed by my constant rejoinders to these GM corrections.

Hmph, I feel like I'm playing Dragon Age: Origins again. But instead of Alistair Disapproves (-50), I'm getting Vincent McCool & GorbadPs3 Disapproves (-50).

:lmao:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:21 am

He's argonian. He doesn't know more about daedra, he's just hearing the acute noise of the creature's heartbeat.
If you actually looked at the post on the page before, the same thing happened. The rest of the knowledge is through tribal lore.
The deadlands name would come from when the argonians overwhelmed the daedric realm in the Oblivion crisis.

The same knowledge was evident slightly in the argonian Mere-Glim, in the out of game official books: The Infernal City & The Lord of Souls.
Now I'm tired of this constant whining of my roleplaying posts, if you or Vincent are going to complain, send me a PM and I'll take in the criticism.
It might or might not be used to edit the post, but it'll make sure this thread isn't overwhelmed by my constant rejoinders to these GM corrections.

Hmph, I feel like I'm playing Dragon Age: Origins again. But instead of Alistair Disapproves (-50), I'm getting Vincent McCool & GorbadPs3 Disapproves (-50).

:lmao:
It would've made sense if any other character had "killed" the clannfear, but not Leandra. She is an expert and if she says something is dead, then it is dead. No matter what tribal hearing Jormaw has. :P I don't know what Vincent will think of the situation, nor what Person from Anticlere thinks of the "glory steal" or "expertise nullify" (or whatever we can call it), but I know my stick of disapproval has flashed again.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:35 pm

(Vinny Approves +10)

Only kidding. To tell the truth I thought the same as Gorbad. The problem isn't so much your Argonian noticing it is alive, dramatically that was a cool move, but more Leandra not noticing, considering PFA has built his entire character around daedra hunting, and not messing things like this up. The issue is between you and PFA really. Saying a character whose only job it is to make sure daedra are dead failed to make sure the daedra was dead, especially after PFA expressly made it clear Leandra did so in his post, is kind of tantamount to breaking the one golden rule in roleplaying: that is not taking over another's character. If PFA is fine with this, then we are cool, but he kind of has every right not to be. I really, really hate to nag like this, but this is just one of those things in RPing. Your enthusiasm is great and you put a lot of effort into every post and it really shows but there are just some things you don't do in Rping. This is kind of one of them.

But really this is between you and PFA. I'm happy with it if he is. Just try and think of the inverse, someone contradicting one of your posts and saying your character failed to do the one thing they are best at in the world, something that comes naturally to them, etc. This is Rping etiquette, no more.

And now I feel like an ass for picking on you. Still a bit guilty over the whole Sload thing =/. Sorry, man.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:35 pm

It would've made sense if any other character had "killed" the clannfear, but not Leandra. She is an expert and if she says something is dead, then it is dead. No matter what tribal hearing Jormaw has. :tongue: I don't know what Vincent will think of the situation, nor what Person from Anticlere thinks of the "glory steal" or "expertise nullify" (or whatever we can call it), but I know my stick of disapproval has flashed again.

To be honest, she stole the kill from Jormaw in the first place. Person from Anticlere had made it so that the clannfear which was obviously in Jormaw's arms,
was now going after his character. When specifically it was originally supposed to be another creature (I'd guess Fiona would of summoned two daedra then).
But seeing this, I kindly changed the original 'daedroth' post to contain only the clannfear escaping and Person from Anticlere going up against it.

So it was Jormaw's kill in the first place, no glory was stolen but his. As well, the death was never officially presented by the character.
Narration was used to define it as 'lifeless' which can always be mistaken for a description, not a current status of the beast's health.

Now stop harassing me with these discrepancies. If you keep on doing so, I'll have to start being Mr. Critical about your own RP posts.

*shakes lightning rod of quintessential annoyance at Gorbad* :sorcerer:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:55 pm

Nevertheless the issue isn't to do with glory-stealing, its more directly contradicting Leandra being efficient at the one thing her character is based around. Dramatically I thought it was a good idea (as was putting the daedra in there in the first place), but you shouldn't go about doing things like that without asking first (probably in a PM). It is not a nice way to roleplay with people.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:15 pm

Nevertheless the issue isn't to do with glory-stealing, its more directly contradicting Leandra being efficient at the one thing her character is based around. Dramatically I thought it was a good idea (as was putting the daedra in there in the first place), but you shouldn't go about doing things like that without asking first (probably in a PM). It is not a nice way to roleplay with people.

You know that now that I think about it, you guys said that a clannfear was a little too tough for his character to handle and I don't need to point out then
it could have a high chance of still being alive after a single eye is stabbed. So what if Jormaw aided in that kill? wouldn't that make more sense lorewise?

And honestly I don't imagine Person from Anticlere to be all that worried about one single daedra going possum on his character. There's plenty more chances
for Leandra to show her professional efficiency. Right now Jormaw is trying to win her confidence, so an acute sense of knowledge or shows of efficiency is in
his right mind at the moment. Not that Leandra would even think he had actually killed it. For all she could think is that he's going about fiddling with things again.

Now again people: send any criticism over the PM channel.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:52 pm

Make love not arguments!

Actually, wait... don't make love. At least not with people from this thread.

Didn't realize there were supposed to be two Daedra behind the door, figured from your post that it was the one and same Clannfear who slipped away from Jormaw (understandable, given he'd just charged down a magically trapped door and all that). What's done is done (no, it's absolutely impossible to alter past posts in any way, shaddap), however, and on that basis I'm not gonna argue about the whole dead or not thing and just ascribe it to Leandra being rather unfocused at the moment because she's too awesome to worry about a single critter too much or whatever. Would ask not to make a habbit of making her miss pretty big things like that, though, seeing how if she had a tendency to do that excessively, she'd be dead in some cave instead of fumbling incoherently through Valton.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:19 pm

And PFA has spoken. You all heard the man. Drop your trousers.

No, wait...
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:46 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHfk9amUeMM
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:51 pm

Would ask not to make a hobbit of making her miss pretty big things like that, though, seeing how if she had a tendency to do that excessively, she'd be dead in some cave instead of fumbling incoherently through Valton.

I didn't take it as a big thing.. but the word is sealed and delivered, you have my utmost oath to never ninja a kill from Leandra's ninja'ing ever again.
Also what do hobbits have to do with this? are you saying that I should make her a hobbit or shouldn't? are these hobbits conspiring against us? tell me!

:cryvaultboy: :whistling: :laugh:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:28 am

Disturbing, you know that my character has now woken up and addressed Nuramon right? Didn't know if you missed that post or not.

We could just say that your guy woke up before Roland. I was wanting Gavril to play his character for their interaction.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:30 am

Disturbing, you know that my character has now woken up and addressed Nuramon right? Didn't know if you missed that post or not.

We could just say that your guy woke up before Roland. I was wanting Gavril to play his character for their interaction.
Oh my bad haha I'm such a [img]http://www.google.com/imgres?q=genius+meme&hl=en&biw=1920&bih=976&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=ng6-lzSM77j6rM:&imgrefurl=http://alltheragefaces.com/face/misc-genius&docid=Lf5Xn9rPxY1kIM&imgurl=http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/large/misc-genius-l.png&w=1382&h=1500&ei=Qhp9T7KLO8moiQK2u-XzDQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=317&sig=107969013864371897490&page=1&tbnh=130&tbnw=119&start=0&ndsp=56&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:73&tx=83&ty=39[/img]

Lets just say that Theseus woke up and left before Roland, if you're cool with that.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:53 pm

Oh my bad haha I'm such a [img]http://www.google.com/imgres?q=genius+meme&hl=en&biw=1920&bih=976&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=ng6-lzSM77j6rM:&imgrefurl=http://alltheragefaces.com/face/misc-genius&docid=Lf5Xn9rPxY1kIM&imgurl=http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/large/misc-genius-l.png&w=1382&h=1500&ei=Qhp9T7KLO8moiQK2u-XzDQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=317&sig=107969013864371897490&page=1&tbnh=130&tbnw=119&start=0&ndsp=56&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:73&tx=83&ty=39[/img]

Lets just say that Theseus woke up and left before Roland, if you're cool with that.

That works for me man. :)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:53 pm

Btw asap, Gavril might be away from now on a few days / a week or something, so you should probably take control of Nuramon and explain the situation to your character. Otherwise Vincent or I can post a reply to get your character out of the endless void on conversation with a character who's afk :)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:55 pm

Btw asap, Gavril might be away from now on a few days / a week or something, so you should probably take control of Nuramon and explain the situation to your character. Otherwise Vincent or I can post a reply to get your character out of the endless void on conversation with a character who's afk :smile:

I know, I was going to post for Nuramon in that last post but it was late and I was tired.

I'll also be on vacation until Sunday with limited internet access. I'll try to post something for him tonight to roll things along.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:56 pm

Prisoner six, I'm still waiting for you to reply to my post..
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