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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:55 pm

It is still really expensive xD imagine if you were hiring someone to build you a house and you had to pay the for materials. How much would you spend on nails alone?
The prices I have in mind are five normal nails for one septim, three big one for one septim and four wide headed for one septim. How does that sound?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:15 pm

It is still really expensive xD imagine if you were hiring someone to build you a house and you had to pay the for materials. How much would you spend on nails alone?
The prices I have in mind are five normal nails for one septim, three big one for one septim and four wide headed for one septim. How does that sound?
Gorbad's got to make a livin' :biggrin: It'll take more than one chunk of ore to make those nails, and he payed quite well for a single one. 14 septims is as low as the offer will go, if Jack can haggle it down. :wink:

Edit: The nails aren't small like the modern nails, it'd be impossible to create so small ones. The "normal" sized nails are 20% as wide as an inch. Not 5% of an inch :biggrin:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:41 pm

I guess that's okay, but I still think you are robbing me blind :P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:34 pm

I guess that's okay, but I still think you are robbing me blind :tongue:
He is a master merchant. It's his job :P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:26 pm

Mead soaked bandages on a wound... OWOWOW! That has got to sting. I can almost feel it >.<

And I love the prison guard xD
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:29 am

Note; Roymund was not almost crying. He ALMOST let out some MAN TEARS. :)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:38 pm

If/When Fioia ever gets back, I think they'd get on like a house on fire (probably setting a house on fire in the process).

Hehe, lighting things on fire seems right up his alley. :tongue:

Oh, and five septims says that crazy old Dunmer willbbe the bane of us all xD

Haha he probably will xD

I second that. Awesome stuff :biggrin:

I also loved the scene with Roland.

Thanks man! :smile:

That sounds expensive for me too. You think they have half-a-septim coins in Tamriel? :tongue:

(coughs) mumbles something about his "copper-silver-gold" system from before. (coughs)

See, this is why I prefer a system of money/coins. I don't think any civilization ever had just a single version of currency that was used universally. The copper-silver-gold system allows for a lot of variance in prices as well as placing more of a value on "gold".

It's identical to the system used in A Song of Ice and Fire and Dragon Age: Origins.

Edit: And why is it that you all like to go on a post-a-thon when I'm gone? It's like reading half a novel to catch up :P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:08 pm

Also, WITYM and Prisoner Six, Varyn pretty much made a rather large scene in the inn with the Nord movers. Enough to shake the walls and fill the room with smoke. I find it a little odd that no one who's in the Inn reacted to it, or outside for that matter. :shrug:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:56 pm

Edit: And why is it that you all like to go on a post-a-thon when I'm gone? It's like reading half a novel to catch up :tongue:

Very active day! I knew you'd be pissed when I posted for the 3rd time :biggrin:

About the currency, your system may be better, the problem I see is making it consistent with the one we've been presented in Skyrim. I believe it's possible, we'd just need a conversion rate of each of those coin materials to Septims, but I just see too much work for little benefit. If really needed, I'd rather have only one other material valued under gold to act as decimals for things like nails.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:05 pm

Very active day! I knew you'd be pissed when I posted for the 3rd time :biggrin:

About the currency, your system may be better, the problem I see is making it consistent with the one we've been presented in Skyrim. I believe it's possible, we'd just need a conversion rate of each of those coin materials to Septims, but I just see too much work for little benefit. If really needed, I'd rather have only one other material valued under gold to act as decimals for things like nails.

Here's how the system works on a basic level, I'll even add in Tamrielic names to make it sound better.

50 Coppers = 1 Silver
10 Silvers = 1 Gold

500 Copper = 1 Gold

1 Copper could be called a Septim
1 Silver could be called a Drake
1 Gold could be called just Gold

I would go ahead and say that 1 Copper would equal what is currently being used as "Gold".

So a tankard of beer would be about 5 Coppers (5 Skyrim Gold). A well forged sword would be about 6 Silver (300 Skyrim Gold). A house would be about 40 Silver (2000 Skyrim Gold). An enchanted well forged set of steel plate armor would be about 20 Gold (10,000 Skyrim Gold).

Needless to say, someone who has gold would be rather rich, and by all rights they should be. I would guess that a Jarl's treasury for a hold like Whiterun would have about 1000 Gold = 50,000 Silver = 2,500,000 Copper
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:05 pm

Out of curiosity, why did you choose 50 for copper/silver exchange rate? Just to better portray what they're worth in our world? This should be way simplified using 10 or 100. Preferably, the same exchange of the silver/gold ratio so that we could make conversions without so much math involved. I mean, if the ratios are always powers of 10, then it would only be a matter of moving the comma around depending on the unit of measure.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:20 pm

Out of curiosity, why did you choose 50 for copper/silver exchange rate? Just to better portray what they're worth in our world? This should be way simplified using 10 or 100. Preferably, the same exchange of the silver/gold ratio so that we could make conversions without so much math involved. I mean, if the ratios are always powers of 10, then it would only be a matter of moving the comma around depending on the unit of measure.

Because I wanted to devalue gold a bit.

Here are the ratios I was working with.


Copper-Silver-Gold
100-10-1250-25-2.52,500-250-2525,000-2,500-250250,000-25,000-2,5002,500,000-250,000-25,000
500-10-12,500-50-525,000-500-50250,000-5000-5002,500,000-50,000-5,000
1,000-10-12,500-25-2.525,000-250-25250,000-2500-2502,500,000-25,000-2500

I guess we could use the 100-10-1 system. At first I looked at a 1000-100-1 system and got it mixed up with the 100-10-1 system. That's why all my math was off and why I changed it to a 500-10-1 system.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:03 pm

Yeah, 100-10-1 sounds way better :)

I'd be ok with it but I don't think we really need the extra complexity. The current system is not the best, but its simple and we can work around the flaws.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:24 pm

Should I put the Character sheet here or send it too you.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:47 am

Yeah, 100-10-1 sounds way better :smile:

I'd be ok with it but I don't think we really need the extra complexity. The current system is not the best, but its simple and we can work around the flaws.
Septims sounds much better. We've talked about this before :P

Should I put the Character sheet here or send it too you.
Here or there, or both. Remember that it can't be -anything- since quite a lot of things have been taken already.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:42 pm

Mead soaked bandages on a wound... OWOWOW! That has got to sting. I can almost feel it >.<

And I love the prison guard xD

Agreed, definitely. I probably would have let out a few tears... and some curses. :P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:52 pm

Note; Roymund was not almost crying. He ALMOST let out some MAN TEARS. :smile:

Fanfic-time! :D

As the healer finished off the bandage Roymund just couldn't surpress his butch manliness anymore. A single drop of testosterone forced its way from his left eye and down his cheek and manly stubble. When it hit the ground a puff of black smoke emerged and none other than Hulk Hogan stood there. "Your manliness has summoned me. We must wrestle!" Hulk said.

Roymund got out of his chair and flexed his muscles. "I accept your challenge and we will wrestle even though I am injured, for I am a MAN!" Roymund shouted back, his skin radiating pure testosterone. The poor healer had been standing too close to Roymund and had now thanks to the radiation grown a full length lumberjack beard of epic manliness.

Roymund and Hulk Hogan got ready for the fight. Roymund tore off his shirt, showing off his manly chesthair and let out a battle cry. The two manly men engaged in manly combat and Valton imploded upon itself, not being able to handle such a high manliness-level.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:41 pm

Fanfic-time! :biggrin:

As the healer finished off the bandage Roymund just couldn't surpress his butch manliness anymore. A single drop of testosterone forced its way from his left eye and down his cheek and manly stubble. When it hit the ground a puff of black smoke emerged and none other than Hulk Hogan stood there. "Your manliness has summoned me. We must wrestle!" Hulk said.

Roymund got out of his chair and flexed his muscles. "I accept your challenge and we will wrestle even though I am injured, for I am a MAN!" Roymund shouted back, his skin radiating pure testosterone. The poor healer had been standing too close to Roymund and had now thanks to the radiation grown a full length lumberjack beard of epic manliness.

Roymund and Hulk Hogan got ready for the fight. Roymund tore off his shirt, showing off his manly chesthair and let out a battle cry. The two manly men engaged in manly combat and Valton imploded upon itself, not being able to handle such a high manliness-level.
:lmao: Sounds plausible!
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:23 pm

Let's just hope it doesn't happen xD

Oh, and Theseus should take some lessons from Flynn Rider when it comes to interacting with women. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVVeCOqm22M&feature=related :P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:15 pm

Also, WITYM and Prisoner Six, Varyn pretty much made a rather large scene in the inn with the Nord movers. Enough to shake the walls and fill the room with smoke. I find it a little odd that no one who's in the Inn reacted to it, or outside for that matter. :shrug:
Don't worry. I made a post about that.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:58 am

Fanfic-time! :biggrin:

As the healer finished off the bandage Roymund just couldn't surpress his butch manliness anymore. A single drop of testosterone forced its way from his left eye and down his cheek and manly stubble. When it hit the ground a puff of black smoke emerged and none other than Hulk Hogan stood there. "Your manliness has summoned me. We must wrestle!" Hulk said.

Roymund got out of his chair and flexed his muscles. "I accept your challenge and we will wrestle even though I am injured, for I am a MAN!" Roymund shouted back, his skin radiating pure testosterone. The poor healer had been standing too close to Roymund and had now thanks to the radiation grown a full length lumberjack beard of epic manliness.

Roymund and Hulk Hogan got ready for the fight. Roymund tore off his shirt, showing off his manly chesthair and let out a battle cry. The two manly men engaged in manly combat and Valton imploded upon itself, not being able to handle such a high manliness-level.

Argh!! Had to stop half way... too much manliness... I'm producing estrogen now... just started lactating... please, make it stop!
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:43 pm

Septims sounds much better. We've talked about this before :tongue:

Yeah, but imagine carrying a bag full of 500 coins. That would have to be one big bag and it would weigh more than a few pounds.

I can't see someone logically carrying a bag of coin that size and weight with them. It would be much simpler to say "Here's 5 silvers for your troubles" than "Here's a bigass bag of 500 coins that you'll have to drag back home. Here's a back brace as well, you'll need it."

Now imagine having to count out 500 septims to pay for something. That's like getting $50.00 worth of gas and paying the clerk in pennies. It would be a major pain in the ass and take a very long time to do any kind of large transaction. Imagine the poor old steward who had to count 1000 gold coins every time someone bought a house in Valton. It would be much easier to purchase a house with 10 silver or 1 Gold than saying "Here's 1000 coins, have fun counting all night."

That's why I suggested the new system. It's not as complicated as you guys think it is. It's actually much simpler and easier to use. It's also much more practical and realistic. Not to mention it adds more depth to the RP and backs away a bit from following the game mechanic of using a single currency for simplicity. Using a single currency in game works fine because gold is just a numerical value and used more like "Credit". Otherwise some of my Skyrim characters would have to have a wagon follow them everywhere because they have so much gold.

It's much easier to carry a purse of a few silvers and about 15 coppers around than carrying a few hundred septims.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:34 pm

Yeah, but imagine carrying a bag full of 500 coins. That would have to be one big bag and it would weigh more than a few pounds.

I can't see someone logically carrying a bag of coin that size and weight with them. It would be much simpler to say "Here's 5 silvers for your troubles" than "Here's a bigass bag of 500 coins that you'll have to drag back home. Here's a back brace as well, you'll need it."

Now imagine having to count out 500 septims to pay for something. That's like getting $50.00 worth of gas and paying the clerk in pennies. It would be a major pain in the ass and take a very long time to do any kind of large transaction. Imagine the poor old steward who had to count 1000 gold coins every time someone bought a house in Valton. It would be much easier to purchase a house with 10 silver or 1 Gold than saying "Here's 1000 coins, have fun counting all night."

That's why I suggested the new system. It's not as complicated as you guys think it is. It's actually much simpler and easier to use. It's also much more practical and realistic. Not to mention it adds more depth to the RP and backs away a bit from following the game mechanic of using a single currency for simplicity. Using a single currency in game works fine because gold is just a numerical value and used more like "Credit". Otherwise some of my Skyrim characters would have to have a wagon follow them everywhere because they have so much gold.

It's much easier to carry a purse of a few silvers and about 15 coppers around than carrying a few hundred septims.
The jarl has a person for counting the money its called steward and besides the Jarls a rich bugger anyway and how would you suggest an overhaul of the instated Economy of the entirety of tamriel?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:43 am

I love the 100:10:1 copper/silver/gold coin system, but since we aren't using that I will pretend that thegold coin we do use have different values stamped on them. One gold coin has the number 1 on it and is worth one gold. Another coin is slightly bigger and has the number 10 on it an is worth ten gold, etc.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:55 pm

Fanfic-time! :biggrin:

As the healer finished off the bandage Roymund just couldn't surpress his butch manliness anymore. A single drop of testosterone forced its way from his left eye and down his cheek and manly stubble. When it hit the ground a puff of black smoke emerged and none other than Hulk Hogan stood there. "Your manliness has summoned me. We must wrestle!" Hulk said.

Roymund got out of his chair and flexed his muscles. "I accept your challenge and we will wrestle even though I am injured, for I am a MAN!" Roymund shouted back, his skin radiating pure testosterone. The poor healer had been standing too close to Roymund and had now thanks to the radiation grown a full length lumberjack beard of epic manliness.

Roymund and Hulk Hogan got ready for the fight. Roymund tore off his shirt, showing off his manly chesthair and let out a battle cry. The two manly men engaged in manly combat and Valton imploded upon itself, not being able to handle such a high manliness-level.

Oh for fu--.. Now i need to come up with a new storyline for Roymund! Talos dammit!

This is how i see Roymund & Alguidar taking on Daedric gods, Skip to 2:34.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lK4cX5xGiQ
Though these men are not nearly hairy/manly enough. Perhaps a band is required, The bardic barman can be our guitarist. Alguidar on drums, Roymund kicking out some vocals...
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