Valton: The New Hold, OOC & Sign-Up Thread #XIII

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:02 am

The lizard wants to make amends by stealing from Alguidar? Lizard logic :laugh:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:25 pm

There's always a Captain on a boat, no matter the size of crew or boat, the Captain is there as a figure of leadership and order so things don't get out of hand. As for the size of the boat Ulfgar and crew use, it's like the ones docked in Riften, not a big row boat, so it has a sail/mast. It would be a pain, and have to have more crew members than either of us want, if it wasn't a sail, because that would mean rowing, and rowing requires more man power for doing things like going against the river. As for the lookout, he could just crawl up to the top of the mast and sit looking for anything. I'll lower the crew to five because the jobs I stated would be important for a trading ship, and some require more than just one set of eyes or person. Also, the matter of how much can be loaded wouldn't be too much in the first place, considering rivers aren't that deep, and anything more, I could just say some of the crew was left behind to make room and space. Or the shipment could be split between land and water if it was too big.

Plus, if I wanted to, a crew member or two could be killed off while on a job, (like I said, a trading boat could hold all sorts of things to someone interested enough to find out with a sword or bow,) and so mercenaries or others could be hired from Valton that way, or whatever.

And the whole class thing isn't as big of a deal, as you think. Being a mercenary is one of the jobs Ulfgar has history with, and still does on occasion, which is why I put it up. A Blacksmith could be a mercenary, sure, but it's a matter of history. Ulfgar has the history, and continues to do that line of work when need be. Think of it like this, if Ulfgar's trading business went down, or he was in a tavern and someone came in asking for swords to go on some job, he could fall back to the sword and sell his skills that way. It can seem like a mess, but it can also seem like a bit of added detail to exactly the professions Ulfgar is capable of without failure (or too much, anyway.)
What I meant by "No captain is needed" was that there's no need for a captian who works only as the captain. Putting him to do something else means the crew-size can be smaller. The boat seen outside riften is actually bigger than I was thinking about when a river-boat is being talked about.. Is there a specific reason why it must be so big and contain so many crew-members?
Edit#2: If you really, really want the crew to be that big, then I'll add your char-sheet to the accepted char-sheets.



Edit: Daroska, we'll assume the fence Jormaw is sitting on is located in a way that the smith couldn't spot him as he made his way to the farm, mmkay?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:30 am

What I meant by "No captain is needed" was that there's no need for a captian who works only as the captain. Putting him to do something else means the crew-size can be smaller. The boat seen outside riften is actually bigger than I was thinking about when a river-boat is being talked about.. Is there a specific reason why it must be so big and contain so many crew-members?



Edit: Daroska, we'll assume the fence Jormaw is sitting on is located in a way that the smith couldn't spot him as he made his way to the farm, mmkay?

There's a lot that goes into being a Captain, than sitting and waiting to reach whatever destination, looking at maps, and so on. Inspecting and keeping check on the rest of the crew is apart of being a Captain, helping where and when he can with the other areas too. The Captain/Ulfgar is the Jack of All Trades, able to help everywhere, rather than the others focusing on a specific duty.

As for the boat size itself, it's not exactly that large, it's a bit smaller, but big enough to carry a large enough load when necessary. I just used those as a base for what the boat looks like and stuff since they're modeled after Viking Longboats, and they're known for their shallow draft. It's still big enough to be ocean going if the need ever arises, like going from Dawnstar to Solitude or something like that.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:34 am

Reprising my role as the Good Cop, I'm weighing in with saying that Dr Strangelove is pretty on the ball about crew sizes and the responsibilities of a Captain. I think the sheet is fine how it is. There is nothing wrong with having a few minor characters to back yours up, this has happened plenty of times before.

To AyumiFan, sorry but I/the Jarl completely misunderstood what she meant. I thought she wanted to set up a restaurant or a grocery store of some description. I must have missed your comments to the contrary. I am tired and stressed and overworked. But mainly stressed.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:25 pm

I am tired and stressed and overworked. But mainly stressed.

The three words i hate to hear and usually am, I would suggest a cup of your favourite drink lie or sit down flick on the tv and watch your favourite movie or program or read a book. :read:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:30 am

'Cup of Tea and a nice read would go down a treat actually. Good call :)


I desperately don't want to have to take more time off this RP but it is getting difficult. The amount of work to keep up with everything and be omni-present and useful is more than you'd think. Really Gorbad does an amazing job (even if we tend to disagree on how restrictive a GM should be on accepting character sheets.)
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:13 am

Well you could schedule your time but that usually ends up in more stress.

anyways GMs dunno erm the only good advice i can give would be the quotes on my sig and the winston churchill speech i copied and pasted then tweaked with into the Interregnum RP thread new members welcome. :cool:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:41 am

'Cup of Tea and a nice read would go down a treat actually. Good call :smile:


I desperately don't want to have to take more time off this RP but it is getting difficult. The amount of work to keep up with everything and be omni-present and useful is more than you'd think. Really Gorbad does an amazing job (even if we tend to disagree on how restrictive a GM should be on accepting character sheets.)
I was just about to accept it as it was when I read your post here. Adding it to the OP right now :)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:04 pm

incidently how many GMs are there for this.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:14 am


To AyumiFan, sorry but I/the Jarl completely misunderstood what she meant. I thought she wanted to set up a restaurant or a grocery store of some description. I must have missed your comments to the contrary. I am tired and stressed and overworked. But mainly stressed.
She wants to open a bakery that sells baked goods and other prepared food, but she will end up with being the owner of the inn.
The current situation is Sarya believing the Jarl is offering her a shop building. The Jarl didn't specifically call it an inn when he offered her the inn.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:37 am

incidently how many GMs are there for this.

Two. A note of interest, neither me or Gorbad started this RP. First off the original GM asked me to help out, and I did, and later when he left and I was running it on my own, I got Gorbad in to help. So it is neither of ours baby. Sort of a labour of love keeping this thing going.

She wants to open a bakery that sells baked goods and other prepared food, but she will end up with being the owner of the inn.
The current situation is Sarya believing the Jarl is offering her a shop building. The Jarl didn't specifically call it an inn when he offered her the inn.
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That is what I assumed she meant. It is also what the Jarl meant. Why would she end up owning the inn?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:40 am

two people presiding over around 30 characters no wonder ya stressed.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:18 pm

Because I agreed to be the new inn keeper.

Who is the beggar that Julius dropped the wolf by?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:40 am

Because I agreed to be the new inn keeper.

Who is the beggar that Julius dropped the wolf by?
I'd like to know that as well! :D

We can, however, assume it was Daroska's short dwarf that Julius mistook for a beggar. At least that'd be a way to note that the orc was there.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:21 am

The lizard wants to make amends by stealing from Alguidar? Lizard logic :laugh:

Jormaw doesn't understand 'ownership' very well and pretty much only recognises personal attachment to be similar.
To Jormaw he's just having a little snack off a tree that's near that old farting nord Alguidar's place, nothing really more. :turned:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:29 pm

Because I agreed to be the new inn keeper.

Who is the beggar that Julius dropped the wolf by?

That must have been the bit that I missed. We might as well go with the disappearance of Skarpi from last night on, then. Not that the Jarl would know about this yet.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 11:14 am

But if the Jarl doesn't know that Skarpi is missing, why would he then sell the inn that still has an owner?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:03 am

That must have been the bit that I missed. We might as well go with the disappearance of Skarpi from last night on, then. Not that the Jarl would know about this yet.
But if the Jarl doesn't know that Skarpi is missing, why would he then sell the inn that still has an owner?
The Jarl could tell Sarya to put up the cooking place in the inn, where Sarya then sees it has no innkeeper. Thus, she becomes the new innkeeper.

I know how terrible this fluff sounds, so any better ideas are welcome! :biggrin:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:12 am

Yeah then Vincent doesn't have a wonderful idea to fix the inn and so everyone forgets about my suggestion?

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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:07 am

Good idea. Get her signed up as a co-owner, and when the Jarl hears of his disappearance he pulls a dike move and puts the entire inn on Sarya's shoulders :P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:48 pm

Yeah then Vincent doesn't have a wonderful idea to fix the inn and so everyone forgets about my suggestion?

:stare:
Skarpi has disappeared, he hasn't just left. All will be revealed in time... Or perhaps it won't. No way to know for sure. :banana:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:14 am

But if the Jarl doesn't know that Skarpi is missing, why would he then sell the inn that still has an owner?

To be frank, he didn't. He sold her a shop to set up as a bakery, or whatever. She seemed to be asking to set up a new shop, so that is what she got.

Um, I suppose we can just assume he meant she can be the inn's cook. There must be a whole kitchen in it without proper staff. Yes, that makes sense.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:56 am

Did you miss out on the discussion we had earlier about Sarya and the inn?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:18 pm

Hmm, WITYM: I think Danus should get a shipment with more gold (from the legion in solitude) or something if you're going to keep handing over such huge amounts of gold for such simple tasks. It's just weird with his infinite money-pool :biggrin:

However, since Danus hasn't actually succeeded in his mission, his source of money could be cut off. Just an idea :)
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:09 am

I bet Skarpi disappeared because one of the Daedric Princes wante their own personal crazy barkeep :P
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