A Vampire question that will likely get no clear answer

Post » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:42 am

So in this RP I'm in (it's based in ESO which means tons of broken lore (not because of ESO but because of naive people)) there is a Vampire Khajiit. She got with another Vampire Khajiit. And now she's pregnant. Yeah no. Am I the only that thinks that doesn't make sense? Their reasoning is that theirs some vague reference (which I feel means unreliable narrator BS) in the Dawnguard DLC that states females can give birth to vampire children (not Serana, we all know she was turned after birth).

I don't really think I have to list all of the reasons on why this just doesn't make sense, but as I can't seem to convince them and they can't find/remember the source for their non-sense, I'd thought I'd ask the Lore community.

So, thoughts?

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Becky Palmer
 
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Post » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:28 pm

As it happens I've been going through the Dawngaurd DLC today and I haven't found any dialogue that implies anything close to that, so I don't know where they're coming from there. Personally, I think they're just wanting some of that cheap vampire romance novel RP and grasping at the air trying to find a way to force it into existing lore. I'd blame it on Twilight, but I've seen this sort of thing happen before that became popular.

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Daramis McGee
 
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Post » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:45 am

I do not remember anything in lore saying two Vampires could successfully procreate
they are (un)Dead afterall

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Post » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:05 am

Tell me if you do find anything Glurin, even remotely vague. As much as I doubt they'll care and go back on it (I mean she's bloody pregnant, it's hard to retcon that) I'd like them to know that they made [censored] up or totally elaborated on a small detail.

Time to quote Haskill- "How typical. You mortals love to take a pebble of information and construct entire realms of conjecture upon it."

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Kevin Jay
 
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Post » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:37 pm

Don't even remember that in the Dawnguard DLC. There was a child between a male vampire and a regular orc in Oblivion. I always took that as an aberration do to the father being part of the Cyrodilic vampires which were changed by Clavicus Vile to be able to blend in with mortals when well fed, which could mean they resume some of their mortal body functions during such a state.

As for female vampires being able to get pregnant, that sounds like it should not be possible to me. I recall no lore that lore states it as concrete fact one way or the other, but the fact that vampires cease aging when they turn would suggest that their body structure is altered quite a bit during the change. Also, as any potential vampiric fetus wouldn't be able to age either, it wouldn't be able to develop anyway.

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Miragel Ginza
 
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Post » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:51 pm

Yeah it sounds to me like they are talking about the Grey Prince in TES IV: Oblivion. His father was a vampire and mother was an ordinary orc. The Grey Prince himself is not a vampire but is stronger than a regular orc and has grey skin, instead of green. I'd also suggest researching "Dhampir". A dhampir is the term given to the child of a human and vampire. I'm no expert on the matter but I don't know of any dhampir, whether in mythology or fiction, whose mother was a vampire. That's not to say it's not the case in TES but...

Either way I don't know of anything saying it is possible nor impossible. And as Dragonslayer11 said, it seems pretty unlikely to me that a female vampire is capable of becoming pregnant/giving birth.

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