I've been wondering what is the reason why vampires take damage while being exposed to sunlight. This happens in every TES game where you can become a vampire, in accordance to most contemporary depictions of vampires. While in more common fictional settings, it could be attributed to some sort of fatal chemical reaction in the vampire's skin when being exposed to the sun, in TES lore the Sun is not exactly a giant incandescent ball of gas millions of kilometres away, but AFAIK the biggest hole to Aetherius, caused by Magnus abandoning the mortal plane.
So my guess is that for some reason vampires are harmed by exposure to the magicka flow from Aetherius coming through the Sun, or maybe Magnus despises them greatly for some reason. Or maybe its simply that a certain light wavelength harms them, whichever is the source of it. That could also explain why any light source in the Oblivion game shines to the point of being unpleasant, even at night, if you have the Sun Damage effect.
Also, is it plausible that a vampire could be harmed while being in a plane of Oblivion? In the Shivering Isles expansion, for example, there were cycles of day and night like in Tamriel, and a vampire would still take damage during the day, yet there was no Sun nor anything similar in sight. But in the Deadlands of Dagon, with no such cycles, a vampire didn't need to fear any form of sunlight.

Vampire's skins are made of eggs. Whst happens to eggs on a hot day? They get fried.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OurVampiresAreDifferent...

Well, they are kinda different.

1. You don't need to stake the [censored]es.

2. Their skin is made out of a form of egg.

:huh: Where do you keep getting this?

According to my alchemical studies of eggs and of human skin...um.....I mean... some of my own hair...I have determined them to possess similar alchemical properties. They seem to contain may of the same magical elements. I can only conclude that they are made of the same "stuff". Since most vampires start out as men, mer or beast folk I can only conclude that vampire skin is similar to Breton skin. Further funding is required for such research to verify, however, and the College of Whispers has not shown very much enthusiasm.


I may have to try the College of Whiskers in Elsywr instead.

He joined 9 days ago, you'll have to excuse him.

Maybe the sun damage thing has to do with the fact that they are weak to fire?
Meh, I'm going to take a lore license and go with the Magnus/Aetherius thing. It's definitely more suiting to the TES fantasy setting than the light wavelength thing. I will fix my vampire mod so that you don't take sun damage in the SI.

Edit: oh yeah I forgot the College of Whiskers... :rofl:

Linky?

No need - he is the walrus ... Koo Koo Ka Choo

Perhaps TES vampires' skin pigmentation is destroyed during the process of becoming a vampire. Albinos lack skin pigmentation, and thus protection from the sun's rays - they are more prone to getting sun burnt very easily. Perhaps this is a similar effect on the vampire's epidermis?

But vampires in TES don't get red... they start smoking.

My guess is that undeath is an unholy condition, while the energy from Aetherius is holy. When a vampire feeds, they absorb life from the subject and become less undead.

That's another problem, the "Holy Damage" only present in Daggerfall: being a vampire and walking into a holy place (a place dedicated to the cult of any deity) resulted in damage to the vampire, though no smoking was visible. But this doesn't appear in Morrowind nor in Oblivion, both of which have places that could be considered very holy. You can even take gods' blessings as a vampire with no ill effects.
Besides... what is that "holiness" supposed to be? Another fundamental force, together with gravity, electromagnetism, and weak/strong nuclear force?

A fundamental force right next to the ones that make Magicka work. ;P

But yeah... if Holy damage was present in Daggerfall, the only real reason it would have to return as an actual programmed damage type would be for Vampires. And Liches, but I don't think you'd ever find one of those out in the sun anyway, at least not in Morrowind or Oblivion.

Alternatively, perhaps it's something to do with fire weakness, and the burning energy that comes from the sun could count as steady fire damage.

Don't overthink it If you start applying science to Tes, time and time again you will get lost or stuck.

But for some kind of answer, I would speculate that most gods don't like vampires, especially those like Arkay.

Not to be off topic here, but The Beatles stink.......

IIRC Vampires bodies arn't whole like man or mer, they are little bits of flesh and bone tied together by magica, so it could be that the type of magica that is holding the skin together could be highly suspetable to what ever force comes from the sun....then again I might be drawing from some other fiction, since I havent looked into tes vampirisism in a while

Maybe Molag Bal or some other daedra decided to be a [censored]?

Actually, the sun is just a giant hole in Oblivion, literally. And I would not fix your vampire mod, because even the daedric lords require the energy leaking fromk the aetherius to keep themselves as their own realm.

And there is a critical thing people are missing, vampirism is a daedric curse created by Molag Bal (the rapist, defiler, and corrupter) and/or the vaemirna (the prince of nightmares). Going with the nightmares part, they're being of nightmares. They can only really prowl the night, they're horrific looking, and are pretty much what nightmares are made of. Going with Molag Bal, they're an abomination to Arkay, they feast on the blood of the living, they were created because Molag Bal defiled a person horrifically, and so on. It's not that they're unholy, they're a daedric cursed group of mortals.

And lastly, don't only look at the OB brand of vampires. There's three different types in MW, a good amount of lore in the book Immortal Blood in OB, and there are a heck of a lot of different types in DF.


That is...so very wrong about vampires. What you gave was a way to prepare a skeleton for necromatic spells.

Start up morrowind, find Maiq, open the consoles, type "player->sethealth 0". Then talk to the lizard-fish now on the island, and all will be explained.




I think your mixed up, stink means something very bad when applied as slang, but the Beatles are the greatest band of all time. Quite the paradox.

Yeah you're way off the mark there, buddy. You pretty much catch a disease and you're a vampire.



See...I'm just never gonna like you from now on. Even if you're a nice guy otherwise, and even if we agree on a lot of things, you simply have no soul and I don't associate with people like you.

I completely agree. Whenever someone disses the Beatles, John Lennon throws 5000 puppies down from heaven into the sea. They all die horribly.

Ah Ha! Now the concept of opinion comes into play.

There was once a constructive topic to this thread, but it's been buried under a rockslide of spam and bickering. Closed as disorderly.