If you were a real fan, you would know Bethesda did vampires and werewolves a decade before that [censored] twisted and perverted vampire folklore.

And there are no werewolves in Twilight...just shapeshifters. What does Skyrim remind you of, Dungeons and Dragons?

OK that would have been really cool
. I was thinking the same thign while rereading Immortal Blood actually.

Vampires are total fail in Skyrim. I cut them down like common bandits with non-magic, non-silver, greatsword, tsk tsk :shakehead:

ROFL yeah auto correct for spelling of stuff like warewolves and ethereal sorry i dont have the twi - tard app

I agreee that they need to be tougher I just wish everybody would shut up with the "D'oh vampires burn in sunlight and that's always been there and ii am not wrong in assuming that".

What? Look at my avatar...


Again... What?

I know lol. I just said that because you compared werewolves and vampires to *Insert that garbage here* when Bethesda did it before.

So, how are twilights werewolves less werewolves than Skyrims? They are "shapeshifters" as well. And if you were a real fan, you would know Bethesda lore says Werebears are the common werebeast in skyrim, it was written a decade before that [censored] post of yours.

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That really bugged me too. There needed to be Werebears.

Yeah, I don't like the vampires in Skyrim. Remind me too much of twilight(that said I do not mind the twilight werewolf) since they do not take sun damage at all. Seriously, even the cyrodilic clans have too feed regulary to avoid that.

Vampires being able to walk about in sunlight without being harmed or killed is
not new. Stop [censored]ign acting like it makes them too "Twilight" There are many things wrong with Twilight vampires but not being killed by sunlight is not one of them. Read some vampire ficiton from before 1922 for god's sake. The sunlight thing isn't even 100 years old yet!

Werewolves in Daggerfall: Forced Lunar transformation with a day of transformation at will. But nevertheless had a lunar transformation, making it a werewolf.

Bloodmoon werewolf: Forced transformation every night.

And where the hell did werebears come into this conversation? We were talking about werewolves in Elder Scrolls, not just limited to Skyrim. Get the facts straight.

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Werewolves in Twilight: Transform whenever they get a boner.

Werewolves in Skyrim: Same as above.

You were acting like Bethesda never butchered their own cool lore... and the lore they keep they mess up so unbelievably bad...
And if you were a real fan you'd know that werebears should have been included instead of werewolves. That was written a decade before your [CENSORED] post.

Feel free to endorse that. :rolleyes:

Well the assumption is that since this is a Skyrim topic that Skyrim related issues would be brought up. As for what makes a werewolf the original myths are almost as inconsistent as those related to Trolls. One thign that is for certain however is that the bite to transform is Hollywood Bupkis. Classical myths ranged from one who was forced to transform once every fourtnight and could only change back if he found his cloths. The greek King Lyceus was forced to stay a wolf for the rest of his life. but the most ciommon actually was a voluntary deal with the devil situation.

Consider it endorsed. :foodndrink:

Seriously could go over what has been destroyed but we'd be here all day!

My initial post was because someone just had to compare Twilight to Elder Scrolls when the two are completly different. I find it amusing that you discard my previous argument concerning forced transformations. In Skyrim, they transform at will, but regardless, werewolves STILL turn under the full moon. The companions seem to have their "Beastblood" passed onto them by generations, all of the same strain or "gift" given by Hircine. I guess we can exclude them from the concept of Lycanthropy.

"I am sure you heard of men who turn into beast under the influence of the moons. I am one of them. A werewolf."-Sinding.

Exactly

Also, I did a bit of research on norse mythology (what should be closer to Skyrim's), and, Volkihaar having been invented by Beth, the closest thing we could relate vampires to are Draugr.

listen it can be a werewolfe as long as it hzas one core rule. What most people assume to be from Twilight is a lot older then they think see my overview of classical mythology before. I talsmost seems like people use "Twilight" far too liberally to mean "something in the mythology I do not like so I will assume it is new because it doesn't fit to the Hollywood version".

Actually, my comment was about how Bethesda are ruining their Vampires/Werewolves, just as a certain other series had.



Let me single out a part of that sentence:


If loading screens are anything to go by, werewolves that change under the influence of the moons are a myth and nothing more. Gameplay is also a major thing to go on. They don't shift at night in-game, they don't shift at night according to lore. Bethesda CAN change their lore all they want. Sometimes it's a good thing, but in some cases, such as the case of werewolves, it's TERRIBLE.





I use the term "Twilight" to refer to a bit of mythology that I would rather have the hollywood version over. So what? This is Elder Scrolls, not an ancient story from the Dark Ages. If people would rather portray the "Hollywood" vampires/werewolves, so what?

Endorsed. :celebration:

I endorse your endorse, I seem to have made a terrible mistake in my post, there.

I understand where the lore folks come from. while I get annoyed iwth the realism folks I agree with the lore folks. You need internal consistancy to make an immersive world.

Eh, should of explained that one better, haha. I guess when someone tries to compare Twilight to Elder Scrolls, I go on. But remember that I guess that the only difference in Skyrim is that the companions seem to be the only ones that can transform at will. So much that Abjorn from the DB believed you couldn't of gotten the gift anywhere else. And loading screens never said anything about werewolves transforming at night being a myth. And since gamplay is a major thing to do by, then why discredit Bloodmoon and Daggerfall? Which both had forced, uncontrollable transformations? I am not trying to flame, just saying that in earlier games, werewolves were simply werewolves. Note that the Companions themselves were transformed through pact with the Witches of Glenmoril.

And Endorsed :rock: :rofl: :foodndrink:

I think we need to tell Blade he isn't the only daywalker anymore. But what will he do now? Oh right. Hunt for vampires night and day.

Now to make a Redguard that looks exactly like Blade. And use curved swords. Curved swords!