Vampires Please

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:21 am

I realized that I don't know a whole lot about Vampires in Vvardenfell and was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on where to look for more, I wanted to know more about like the practices and just general lore. Thank you.
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Jeffrey Lawson
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:05 am

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vampires

Also, some useful books:

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/vampires.shtml
http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/trap.shtml -- Fiction involving Berne clan vamps.
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Aman Bhattal
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:01 am

You could also read:

http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/lairvileopusculuslamae.shtml - Gives an account of the rumored origins of vampires.
And the http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/lairvilevampiremanifesto.shtml is, as the name suggests, the manifesto for Vampires in Cyrodiil.
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Melly Angelic
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:23 am

Also http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/immortal_blood.shtml.

The Lamae and the Manifesto sound more like local pulp fiction, not something to be considered serious.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:45 pm

The Lamae and the Manifesto sound more like local pulp fiction, not something to be considered serious.

While that might be true, there's very little else to go on. I personally take it at least somewhat seriously, in the lack of more credible sources.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:00 am

Cool thanks I forgot about UESP
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:02 pm

there is surprisingly little information on Vampires. The only consistent thing is that they don't like sunlight. In TESIII, they cannot regenerate health on their own, and use a spell that absorbs health -- perhaps "feeding"?

In TES IV, they are able to drink blood. Cyrodiilic vampires seem to get stronger the longer they go without feeding -- perhaps because the blood makes them more like their (formerly) mortal (and less powerful) selves?

Vvardenfell Vampires have clans and special ablilities tied to those clans.

Everything else is in the literature... I suggest browsing the Imperial Library, there are a few scraps of information from the older Elder Scrolls games.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:45 am

While that might be true, there's very little else to go on. I personally take it at least somewhat seriously, in the lack of more credible sources.


Vampires of Vvardenfell mentions that the Molag Ball stories are present in every culture. The thing being turned into a vampire is always somebody of good virtue. An innocent woman, a warrior ect. So while there might be a core of truth in there, the Lamea probebly wasn't the first vampire.

Another point is that Vaernima seems to be much more closly related to Vampires then Molag Bal. While they are seen as monsters and Molag Ball shelters them as such, Vampires are living nightmares and living in a nightmare, when they sleep they have nightmares. Vearnima is the Daedra of nightmares and Molag Bal asks her for the potion to cure the disease.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:43 pm

Another point is that Vaernima seems to be much more closly related to Vampires then Molag Bal. While they are seen as monsters and Molag Ball shelters them as such, Vampires are living nightmares and living in a nightmare, when they sleep they have nightmares. Vearnima is the Daedra of nightmares and Molag Bal asks her for the potion to cure the disease.

That's always confused me. It makes sense, sure, but it's never mentioned anywhere else before or after Morrowind. I suppose one possibility is that Vaermina simply modified the bloodlines, similiar to what Clavicus Vile apparently did with the Cyrodiilic vampires. Who knows. :shrug:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:09 am

Or Molag Bal is an ass, and is trying to take credit by smearing his logo feces whenever there is a vampire around.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:17 am

Or Molag Bal is an ass, and is trying to take credit by smearing his logo feces whenever there is a vampire around.


Molag Bal an ass? Never! :rolleyes:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:01 am

He didn't [censored] Vivec! That's a lie!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:14 pm

In Morrowind, vampires seem to be popular villains in fictional stories. You may want to read The Locked Room, Incident at Necrom (about Quarra vampires), and Trap (about Berne Vampires). Surfeit of Thieves and A Game at Dinner both deal with Aundae vampires - the first is a fictional story, while the second one is probably a real letter, and an interesting one, since it mentions the Daedra Vaernima as "The Gifter".
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:11 am

That's always confused me. It makes sense, sure, but it's never mentioned anywhere else before or after Morrowind. I suppose one possibility is that Vaermina simply modified the bloodlines, similiar to what Clavicus Vile apparently did with the Cyrodiilic vampires. Who knows. :shrug:


Or that Molag Ball who as father of the Monsters merely shelters them and thus got associated with them in folklore. When they sleep, the Cyrodiilic Vampires have the same nightmares as those in Morrowind so it's something that specifically comes from Vearnima.

It depends a little on what you want to do with the lore, but in most cases you can ignore this. Most vampires also seem to see Molag Bal as their father, so there isn't any obvious conflict that they could notice. Though if you're interested in the specific facts, then the Vearnima story gets real relevance.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:25 am

A thought: What if the http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/lairvileopusculuslamae.shtml was actually a myth-echo of Molag Bal "[censored]" Vaernima?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:30 pm

A thought: What if the http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/lairvileopusculuslamae.shtml was actually a myth-echo of Molag Bal "[censored]" Vaernima?


While I am not a lore buff, I do not see elements to identify Lamae Beolfag as Vaernima. Instead, I am curious of the striking resemblance between the name of Lamae herself and Molag Bal's.
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While I am not a lore buff, I do not see elements to identify Lamae Beolfag as Vaernima. Instead, I am curious of the striking resemblance between the name of Lamae herself and Molag Bal's.

I did not say that it Lamae was Vaernima. I meant that the story (and all the other, similar, ones) could be a myth-echo of the original event.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:28 pm

I did not say that it Lamae was Vaernima. I meant that the story (and all the other, similar, ones) could be a myth-echo of the original event.


Right, I misinterpreted you - probably because I'm still not familiar with the concept of myth-echoes.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:07 pm

Right, I misinterpreted you - probably because I'm still not familiar with the concept of myth-echoes.

I am not entirely sure on it myself - but it sounded fitting, so I used i anyway.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:53 am

One of more abstract thinking might look at Dunmer. The Chimer were cursed by Azura, this curse was to make them look like the vampires they so hated. You might find something interesting, maybe the diary of a tribunal or something written by them. They might have mentioned something that happened to them when they were changed, something like having red eyes and then something about [Insert interesting thing learned].
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:59 pm

He didn't [censored] Vivec! That's a lie!

Of course he didn't; Vivec consented.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:38 am

One of more abstract thinking might look at Dunmer. The Chimer were cursed by Azura, this curse was to make them look like the vampires they so hated. You might find something interesting, maybe the diary of a tribunal or something written by them. They might have mentioned something that happened to them when they were changed, something like having red eyes and then something about [Insert interesting thing learned].


Yes, I remember the similitude between the Dunmer appearance and the aspect of the undead, but I think that instead of "vampire", the word used was "ghoul", or something similar. Yes, it was from Nerevar at Red Mountain: http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/nerevar_redmountain.shtml.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:24 pm

Remember kids, this is TES not TVS. Or TWS.

Edit: In no offense though.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:30 pm

Of course he didn't; Vivec consented.


You have to wonder if it was really consent, or just the spin put on events. Vivec "sending his head elsewhere" could be a metaphor for catatonia during a traumatic event like [censored]. Maybe the event was more like a prison [censored], Molag Bal overpowering Vivec. Even though Vivec learned the secret syllable "CHIM", it was at a steep cost.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:12 pm

"Not struggling" doesn't constitute consent.
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