So the long and short of it is you want all the benefits of being a vampire, but want to see how many of the negatives you can get rid of without causing a riot.

The thing for you to do is get the PC version and mod in "super-Twilight-vampires" and leave the base game alone. It pretty much got the balance between good and bad effects right, the tradeoff for all the extra power should be your life becoming a major hassle.

The problem with that is then vamparism will be wanted by everyone and basically be a must have. To have such powerful stat boosts, you need a downside.

I swear, if there is hardly any physical consequences of being a vampire, in that you are no longer nightmarish, I will personally go out of my way to slay every single abomination in the game. I would abandon a fight with a dragon if I see a vampire in the corner of my eye or if I happen to be running to a vampire den.

Too many people want too many pros, with hardly any cons. And even the cons are pretty worthless. Vampires are supposed to be the product of prince of nightmares and the prince of six that is not consenting, and a complete affront to life and nature.

Well seeing as how the only vampires in Skyrim described in the lore so far live underwater in frozen lakes, I would guess that they probably don't look like normal people. This doesn't mean I wouldn't want to play one though. Part of me would love to play the role where every one you meet would immediately recognize you as a monster. Of course, I do understand the INCREDIBLE difficulty this would add to the game designers, but it would still be fun.

How about you get the old fashion overpowered badass vampiric abilities but if you stay outside during sunrise you turn to dusk and blow away in the wind or something.

the only thing i want from vampires is that their skills get better, and that, in the day light, if we run in a shadow we stop gettin sun damage, in oblivion, don't matter if we weren't in the sun spot, we would get damage anwyay. wich pisses me off

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They should go the route of more traditional vampires.

They can move about freely in the sunlight.

However, they cannot cross running water or enter buildings without permission.

Bethesda should improve your options as a vampire by letting your hide yourself from the sun with clothing and making things like cloudy days as a way to walk around without worry, and fast travel does have its down sides with vampires, so maybe create indoor traveling options for vamps so they don't load up and die after traveling.

Vampires drink blood to survive and they can be sixy. A combination of both. I love pros and cons, which is why I did not have anything wrong with the Oblivion vampires. But variety is always good. We need a variation of both abominations like the Quarra and the Volkihar and the masqueraded abominations. Kinda like a mask party where all the people wear masks and you have nothing to worry about until you see their true persona.

Hmmm I smell Twilight :stare:

For vampirism, I'd like to see the bottles of Human Blood make a return, except this time they should work as a portable source of blood (which is how I expected them to work in Oblivion and was severely disappointed) for after a long dungeon delve or something. Maybe you could purchase them from clan vendors (assuming Vampire Clans make a return. Please Bethesda, let them return, I have ice cream! :icecream: )

that would be awesome like it would be a greater power... ice Phase or something like that

just as long as they don't reflectance twilight at all im happy that movie made me lose faith in humanity




Edit: i apologize for the double post

The thing I want most for Vamps is to have a bite/drink finishing move. Not only is it an efficient way to feed,, but it looks cool as hell.

No, [censored] the Cyrodiilic clan, it spoiled all of you. That's the only clan that can pull off the looking normal look, due to the intervention of Clavacus Vile. All others are living nightmares, and it should stay that way.

If not, thank you Nurgle and Khorne that I have a PC. I'll end up just modding vampires out of my game if that kind of vamp is made into the game.

Since we have dynamic shadows, I hope when you hide in the shadows it either does less damage or none at all... In fact amount of sunlight there is (Time of day) should effect the damage overall =/
(Also harvesting blood from enemies to drink later... P=)

I'm pretty sure that Daggerfall's vampires could blend somewhat into society.

And that's how it should be. Vampires are supposed to be wolves hidden amongst the sheep; hard to pull that off when everyone knows what you are just by looking at you. And if becoming a vampire essentially breaks the main quest, as in Morrowind, that's a problem.

I'd say, make it so the Cyrodiil Clan is the only one which can travel in the day, and thus fully integrate into society, but all clans can at least go unnoticed among people (with maybe some small effort needed to disguise your nature for some clans, at most)

Yea, it's because they resemble old fashioned vampire and not bloodsvcking gremlins! Just be happy that regardless of walking among people, they can still look like nightmarish creatures! Hell, Dracula was no ugly mofo, neither was all those other vampires from the old tales! They were seductive, nightmarish and dangerous all at the same time!

EDIT: All others are indeed monsters and I agree that they should stay that way. I think you may have the impression that I want all vampires to be like the Cyrodilic vampires. That's simply not the case. Infact, I would want the all to be shunned by society and make them dark creatures who hunt at night. Cyrodilic clan should be the only vampire clan to ever walk in the day and walk among mortals. Because they are just that badass. Pulling strings behind the scenes is pretty cool. That's not to say I don't like the other vampire clans too. Second to the Order Clan, I like the Quarra as well. I'm not spoiled, I just think the most powerful Clan in Cyrodiil should remain the most powerful clan. It would svck if other vampire tribes had the same powers.

I don't think clothing should completely protect you from the sun. It's not like you're going to ever run out of clothes, so it would be too powerful.

Being safe in the shadows is a great idea though. It would be fun to play like that, looking for shady spots and sprinting quickly through the sun, like a somewhat different take on a thief sneaking in the shadows.

No, I want traditional sun damage. I mean, let's face it, if you want to play a proper vampire you need to hide till it's dark, that's the idea. Don't get me wrong, if people die for this, then let em have it, I'll still only come out after dusk. But if they do, they are stepping away from the proverbial vampire that comes out from it's lair when the darkness sets in to hunt for blood and more towards the idiotic shiny vampire whose purpose is to give lonely fat chicks, shivers, and complaining about how much it svcks to be immortal, so not thanks.

Bottom line, I don't mind that much if vampire can venture out in the sun, I don't mind if they disfigure them, just not too much, and when that happens at least allow us to adjust the appearance.

Anyone not voting for vampires in Skyrim to be like real vampires of lore throughout history should just stop posting now. Honestly, this is getting ridiculous.

If you want to be a vampire, accept the point of it, accept the powers, and accept not going out in any sunlight!

It's so simple a concept it blows my mind that people are even mentioning this bs about vampires IN the sun and negating all the cons. Therefore, I would like to make a point that should be taken as a productive suggestion for Bethesda. Obviously with their owncreativity added to the right extent.

Vampires should exist one of 2 ways:

1. Anne Rice style vampire. (If you don't know what that is, turn off your computer and go to a library.) Sun DEATH, not damage/sixy allure/permanent youth/pale skin/fangs/eyes/etc.

2. Nosferatu,maybe Dracula,Van Helsing vampires. Sun DEATH, not damage/beastly/ugly/pale/maybe flight/etc.

Point being, the Cyrodiilic vampires lucked out in some ways. I'm all for vampire clans and races to go in one of these categories(if not both) in the province of Skyrim.