is vats still effective in fallout 3 new vegas like it was i : Fallout: New Vegas

» Thu May 10, 2012 12:58 am

Im thinking of making a vats cowboy but dont wanna shoot myself in the foot for doing it lol..

anyone ever made a good vats build before?

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:32 pm

You would need high Agility, you actually can get more starting AP in New Vegas then in Fallout 3. You should take Kamikaze as a Trait obviously, but it definitely seems doable.

Note: It's not Fallout 3: New Vegas, it's just Fallout: New Vegas. It is not an expansion of Fallout 3, its a whole different game. I'm going to warn you now that the title of this thread is going to really annoy a few of people.

» Wed May 09, 2012 4:18 pm

What he said, the Agility pays off too.

But a question if you don't mind. What do you mean by 'effective'?
Because IMHO, I've found VATS in Fallout 3 to be an instant unbalanced god-mode.

» Wed May 09, 2012 4:02 pm

The title of this thread is really starting to piss me off

» Wed May 09, 2012 11:08 pm

i say : play "vat-cowboy" when u have action points and play "" non-vat-cowboy " when u don't have action points

» Wed May 09, 2012 4:26 pm

FO3 Vats reduced incoming damage by like 85% or some ridiculous amount, which made it broken as hell. I remember I would specifically enter VATS just for the hell of it if I saw a rocket or mini nuke about to hit me for that very reason.

New Vegas, VATS only reduces incoming damage by like 35% or something, so VATS actually makes you pretty vulnerable, since now you can't dodge.

Personally I think pure VATS is kind of difficult. Fast Shot allows you to stay in VATS but nerfs your accuracy, Trigger does the opposite. End-game? Sure, but that's end-game...

» Wed May 09, 2012 1:40 pm

Only reason I ever use VATS in FO3 is because of the non-iron sites or whatever

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:41 am

Vats was never effective except close up IMO. You're better off learning to shoot on your own.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:13 pm

I mainly use VATS with high RoF weapons that have good ammo capacity and high 'per shot' damage. That way I can quickly snap off a couple rounds precisely into some heads to reduce a swarm to managable size, or to pick off enemies with explosive weapons.

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:40 pm

FALLOUT 3: NEW VEGAS???!!!!!!!!!!

FALLOUT 3: NEW VEGAS?!!!!!

REALLY?

» Thu May 10, 2012 12:44 am

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I was wondering how long it would take you to notice.

» Wed May 09, 2012 7:01 pm

vats reduced damage in normal fallout 3? wow, didnt notice lol!

I think I may go vats cowboy, going to try playing on hard instead of normal so the challenge will be awesome

» Wed May 09, 2012 11:06 am

Vats was never effective except close up IMO. You're better off learning to shoot on your own.

I agree in terms of handguns, submachine guns, etc. But with high small guns skills and a few perks using rifles was insanely accurate and overpowered and would one shot everything. Except a reaver or overlord.

» Wed May 09, 2012 7:33 pm

To answer the question in your thread title, no, VATS is not as effective in New Vegas as it was in Fallout 3. I only used VATS once throughout my time playing New Vegas. The refined shooting mechanics of the game make the feature obsolete.

The title of this thread is really starting to piss me off

You must be very easy to piss off.

» Thu May 10, 2012 12:05 am

I agree in terms of handguns, submachine guns, etc. But with high small guns skills and a few perks using rifles was insanely accurate and overpowered and would one shot everything. Except a reaver or overlord.

True, But in general I use my silenced sniper rifle, no need for VATS if you know how to aim :laugh:

@Thread- Grow up people. There's been many times people say 'Fallout 3:New Vegas', and it will happen again, if it bothers you that much, you really don't have much of a life if something so petty sets you off.

» Wed May 09, 2012 3:28 pm

I was wondering how long it would take you to notice.

This is probably your second account, huh?

There's been many times people say 'Fallout 3:New Vegas', and it will happen again, if it bothers you that much, you really don't have much of a life if something so petty sets you off.

What's a life?

» Wed May 09, 2012 10:41 pm

I usually don't use VATS. With Guns Ironsights is simply better and with Melee VATS is just completely unnecessary. It usually just ends up me watching my character stand stock-still and slack-jawed like a [censored] while my enemies pummel me in slow motion when I use VATS.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:57 pm

just curious, why do people get so boner killed over the term F3:NV? Yeah it's annoying but not THAT annoying...

» Wed May 09, 2012 11:26 am

Please, PLEASE tell me the title of this thread is a sick joke.

Fallout:3:New Vegas????!!?!?
*starts violently shaking and foaming at the mouth

» Wed May 09, 2012 1:12 pm

just curious, why do people get so boner killed over the term F3:NV? Yeah it's annoying but not THAT annoying...

Probably because it's just stupid on its face.

Now I'm off to play Final Fantasy VII:Tactics:XIII-2.

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:39 am

Probably because it's just stupid on its face.

Now I'm off to play Final Fantasy VII:Tactics:XIII-2.

Truly ROFL.

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:49 pm

Whats Fallout 3: New Vegas, is that a spin off of a spin off set using the primative style of Fallout 3 - I hope it uses Mothership Zeta as a base plot.

V.A.T.S is V.A.T.S, is only as effective as pausing the whole living world and firing in slow-mo Matrix style can be.

» Wed May 09, 2012 10:41 am

The refined shooting mechanics of the game make the feature obsolete.

Only if you like having a Call of Duty:Wasteland experience.
There are people who like having options that prevent the game from being a pure FPS in the first place.
Also, VATS helps a lot when it gets to saving ammo.
I happily use both systems, depending on the situation and my personal mood.

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:30 am

It is just as effective as in FO3.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:52 pm

@Thread- Grow up people. There's been many times people say 'Fallout 3:New Vegas', and it will happen again, if it bothers you that much, you really don't have much of a life if something so petty sets you off.

Well it is very annoying. :slap:

Its Fallout: New Vegas. Why is that so hard for some people?