Vault Dweller/Chosen One Vs. Lone Wanderer/Courier : Fallout Series Discussion

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:58 am

I went with the Chosen One/Vault Dweller, because they seemed to have more religious and progessional meaning to people, but I also liked the concept of just being a random person and turn out to be an uber powerful killing machine, which is why I would've whent with the Lone Wanderer/Courier.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:43 pm

Well, seeing as the Vault Dweller is dead and the Chosen One is likely an old fart who lives in New Arroyo, I'd say the Courier kicks the LW's ass and stays supreme as the current series protagonist until the next game comes out.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:50 am

I meant in some weird time paradox (similar to the random encounter in Fallout 2).

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:22 pm

I assume they can use any means at their disposal to win and that means...

Lone Wanderer Easy, just get his buddy Fawkes and his ungodly amount of HP to lend him a hand

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:21 pm

as they are all me they are all equally awesome and it will end in a stalemate

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:23 am

why would they fight each other? i mean really they would all probably go get drunk and hang out together, or at least the versions of them in my games would

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:22 pm

why would they fight each other? i mean really they would all probably go get drunk and hang out together, or at least the versions of them in my games would

Well, they probably wouldn't since most if not all of them are good guys in the canon. If they actually did meet they'd likely become BFFs, join forces and battle evil together with a righteous butt kicking fury comparable to that of Minsc and Boo.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:30 pm

I assume they can use any means at their disposal to win and that means...

Lone Wanderer Easy, just get his buddy Fawkes and his ungodly amount of HP to lend him a hand

Courier's essential companions on non-hardcoe will beat the fugly yellow mutie. :mohawk:

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:32 pm

Courier's essential companions on non-hardcoe will beat the fugly yellow mutie. :mohawk:

See how fragile they are if they need to be essential. even if they all had fat men and hit fawkes with them he would still be standing, then mow them down with his gatling laser. They would go unconscious, Fawkes would regenerate, rinse and repeat

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:33 am

500HP is not much, considering I had Boone(and Cass in that matter) killing a Deathclaw Alpha single handely before going down. That's like 500-750HP. But then again, I had them equipped in the best armor with unique weapons. :shrug:

EDIT: Is that avatar from Stalker? I saw that one, weird but interesting movie.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:52 am

See how fragile they are if they need to be essential. even if they all had fat men and hit fawkes with them he would still be standing, then mow them down with his gatling laser. They would go unconscious, Fawkes would regenerate, rinse and repeat

Except if there was a battle, there would be no companions.

also Fawkes is weak.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:12 pm

500HP is not much, considering I had Boone(and Cass in that matter) killing a Deathclaw Alpha single handely before going down. That's like 500-750HP. But then again, I had them equipped in the best armor with unique weapons. :shrug:

EDIT: Is that avatar from Stalker? I saw that one, weird but interesting movie.

Fawkes handled a Behemoth on his own very well, it was quite a sight to behold

yep, very good movie imo, i'm surprised that somebody else know about it

also Fawkes is weak.

and you came to this conclusion how?

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:29 pm

When he died way too easily.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:13 am

Marcus Beatco. Mega power fist would take down Fawkes

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:48 pm

When he died way too easily.

having to take a couple of direct hits from the MIRV isn't exactly dying easily imo

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:17 am

Really? Because I thought a couple direct hits from a MIRV was a cakewalk. But a rad roach on the other hand...they can survive a 200 megaton nuke.

But in any case, the Courier would triumph over anybody trying to attack him. Think about it. The man/woman gets shot in the head, travels across the Mojave to get revenge, takes out one or two of the major factions in the Mojave, and is able to spend time with their friends back in Goodsprings.

That's professional. And the Courier has the audacity to kill Caesar or President Kimball HIMSELF. Heck, he can kill Mr. House, the OVERLORD of New Vegas!

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:46 pm

Two words: crotch shots.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:46 am

This is a trick question and I know the answer. The Lone Wanderer would kill them all because he can get all his stats to 10 and all his skill to 100 and he gets 30 perks.

But my favorite is the original Vault Dweller.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:56 pm

This is a trick question and I know the answer. The Lone Wanderer would kill them all because he can get all his stats to 10 and all his skill to 100 and he gets 30 perks.

But my favorite is the original Vault Dweller.

I am glad you like the Vault Dweller but Lone Wanderer could not kill the others. Even with maxed skills and very high specials. Vault Dweller and Chosen One could have higher then 100 skills. They can specialize to take out the Wanderer. Also they had Damage Threshold. Chosen One could have the Bozar and Advanced MkII Power Amour. IMO better perks and traits (Wanderer does not have traits) such as Gifted and Skilled. Fallout one and two also have surgeries available to increase specials.

Courier also has Advanced MkII power armour as well as Damage threshold IMO that give the edge to courier over wanderer.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:18 am

But the lone wanderer has Hellfire Armor which is the most advanced post war armor available and with the help of his Lincolns repeater and the Mysterious Stranger (who does like 9000 DMG).

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:01 am

Obviously Lone Wanderer and Courier.

- They don't take turns.
- They don't pause during anybody's turns.
- They are in realtime and will just blow up the Vault Dweller and the Chosen One while they spend their AP.
- They see in 3d, with a first or third perspective.
- Cheats: TGM for example.
- Best armors as stated above.

The Chosen One and Vault Dweller are doomed.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:32 am

Obviously Lone Wanderer and Courier.

- They don't take turns.
- They don't pause during anybody's turns.
- They are in realtime and will just blow up the Vault Dweller and the Chosen One while they spend their AP.
- They see in 3d, with a first or third perspective.
- Cheats: TGM for example.
- Best armors as stated above.

The Chosen One and Vault Dweller are doomed.

Hellfire Armor just looks the best, I can still kill them with a pistol :rolleyes: Enclave in FO3 are more into looks then protecting themselves. Maybe because there are few enemies that have more then old hunting rifles.

The view of the game has nothing to do with it.

Are you saying the Wanderer would have to cheat to win?

If you believe that turn based and graphics is an issue then the Warrior will kick Wanderers butt. Plus he has depleted uranium .50cal machine gun rounds for the M2, browning machine gun as well as Gauss Minigun.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:02 pm

Hellfire Armor just looks the best, I can still kill them with a pistol :rolleyes: Enclave in FO3 are more into looks then protecting themselves. Maybe because there are few enemies that have more then old hunting rifles.

The view of the game has nothing to do with it.

Are you saying the Wanderer would have to cheat to win?

If you believe that turn based and graphics is an issue then the Warrior will kick Wanderers butt. Plus he has depleted uranium .50cal machine gun rounds for the M2, browning machine gun as well as Gauss Minigun.

Even if it was a realistic fight, the Courier still has the most experience.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:25 am

But the lone wanderer has Hellfire Armor which is the most advanced post war armor available and with the help of his Lincolns repeater and the Mysterious Stranger (who does like 9000 DMG).

Not even close to the protection of APA mk II in FO2.....

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Enclave_Hellfire_armor

Total of 60 DR and +1 to str. (+1 STR in FO3 = 10 lbs of extra carrying weight)
Suit was 44 lbs. -34 net weight.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Advanced_power_armor_Mk_II_%28Fallout_2%29

18 DT and 60 DR +4 to Str. (Fallout 2 you get 25 lbs per point of Str. so suit gives you 100 lbs extra carry weight.)
Suit was 50 lbs. +50 lbs net weight.

APA mk 2 has over 60 DR in all damage categories...

plus we have weapons that can do http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/File:VindicatorMinigunDamageReporting.png

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:09 am

My Initiate and his squad could wipe out all of your pansy rejects.