So we already knew that physical PC version of Fallout 4 will require additional download. The question was: how much? It seems quite a lot because it comes with only one DvD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p2jXg_uESc&feature=youtu.be&t=4m11s

I'd wager you're getting a steam installer on said disc and not a whole lot else.

They already said the disk has more then a steam installer.

This is old news, as well as it coming with only one disk.

They've already said that there is game content on the DVD, but not how much.

Yeah, I went looking through a few German unboxings, and saw the same--a single DVD. (Not that it affects me, I bought it on Steam, but I've been curious due to the ongoing debate about it.)

4.7 gigs of data on the disk, the rest will be downloaded via steam.

Yeah I think it might even be just a key and not a whole lot of data on it. But maybe they compressed it to get ~10 GB out of the disc space. Still this would mean 18+ Gb you need to download. If you get the retail version on release day you might play a lot later than people that bought online and could pre-load. There should be a way to get early access to your key to offset that.

Pete hines said 4.7 gigs of data http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-will-require-a-steam-download-even-if-you-buy-it-on-disc/

There doesn't appear to be much incentive to own a physical copy with that size disc then. Looks like I'll just forego the disc and go full digital this time.

I heard that the physical DVD disc of the PC version of Fallout 4 will have a Steam installer, but how many discs? I didn't hear it was on 1 DVD disc until now and with 4.7GB's?

Sigh, even more of a reason for me to just wait for ZeniMax Media Inc. and Bethesda Softworks to sell the PC version of Fallout 4 on gog.com.

Does anyone still buy physical pc games? I mean if you are buying a collectors edition or something special then sure but i hardly know anyone in my circle of pc friends who buy physical discs of pc games anymore.

I know i haven't bought a physical disc since somewhere around 2008. Besides Fallout 4 is a steamworks game so doesn't matter if you like steam or hate it you gonna need it anyway either you buy digital or physical so just buy it on steam itself. I guess every pc gamer has a reasonable internet connection by now and even if you have slow net then there is gonna be a preload option, probably 5 days or something before actual release. Plenty of time to download the game then use the disc on release day only to find out that you need 20gb worth of data to download.

Actually Pete Hines said:

"Most major game releases these days require hefty launch-day patches anyway, and as Hines pointed out, the console versions of the game will be on Blu-ray discs, which can store 25GB per layer, while the PC version will be on DVDs that hold just 4.7GB."

That is just a statement of fact that DVDs hold 4.7gb of data. The previous paragraph says:

"The word came from Pete Hines, Bethesda's Vice President of PR and Marketing, who confirmed on https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/654763011677143041 last week that the physical release of the game will include both a disc and a Steam key, and that the disc will have "actual install data" on it. But in a follow-up, he added that while the game will be installed from the disc, "You will still have to download from Steam. The disc doesn't contain the entire game."

Actual install data does not have to mean anything beyond a setup.exe, technically.

Temper those expectations lest ye be disappointed. Expect to download the entire game from Steam and be pleasantly surprised if it does not.

Pete didn't say anything about the amount of data, he just mentions that PC uses DVD rather than Blu-ray. The mention of DVD data capacity was made by the author of the PC Gamer article:

"This is not unreasonable, or even unusual. Most major game releases these days require hefty launch-day patches anyway, and as Hines pointed out, the console versions of the game will be on Blu-ray discs, which can store 25GB per layer, while the PC version will be on DVDs that hold just 4.7GB. But when pressed about why PC games in general are so often restricted this way, he offered a simple, one-word answer: "Piracy.""

He's quoting from this tweet: "PC requires activation on Steam. Console does not. Console ship on Blu-rays, PC ships on DVDs."

In fact, DVD can contain more data, or the game box could contain multiple DVDs. Pete's other tweets made it sound like it would be multiple discs, since he implies that they aren't doing anything different from previous releases: "Well we've been doing it this way more or less for 10+ years. Seems to be doing ok. Lots of people bought Skyrim, Wolf, etc"

I still purchase physical boxed PC versions of video games as long as they are 100% Digital Rights Management (DRM) free.

I'm ok with disc checks as well that you have to insert the CD-ROM disc or DVD-ROM disc in your CD-ROM drive, DVD-ROM drive or Blu-Ray drive.

I purchase multiple copies of physical boxed versions of PC versions of video games sometimes as well.

The same goes for movies I purchase the physical boxed versions of movies.

Although most movies today are sold on Blu-Ray discs.

I have a Blu-Ray drive and Blu-Ray so I'm good to go with Blu-Ray discs.

For the sake of nit-picking accuracy, what Pete Hines himself said on Twitter, in response to the question "So I install Fallout 4 with the disc?" was;

"yes, though you will still have to download from Steam. The disc doesn't contain the entire game."

and, in response to the question "do consoles discs contain the entire game?.if yes why is the pc disc restricted"

"PC requires activation on Steam. Console does not. Console ship on Blu-rays, PC ships on DVDs."

It was PC Gamer that observed the different capacities of Blu-ray and DVD. Just saying because I like what people actually said to be attributed to them, and not what other people said

I've no doubt that FO4 will have a hefty download, even if bought on disk - unless the 30GB free disc space needed for PC is because they uncompress their data files on install which is... highly unlikely.

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I swear, lefty666 must think there's a very long-winded echo going on in here

I hope F4 DvD is double layered (My New Vegas: Ultimate Edition for PC was on DL DVD with 8 GB data)

Physical retail on PC still exists in 2015?

I used to. I still would, if the PC gaming section in retail stores was more than a half of a free-standing shelf, consisting only of the newly released top-three AAA games which I never plan on buying.

Movies are different, a physical bluray disc movie and netflix stream have hell of a quality difference. I have yet to find a pc game released on blu-ray disc though and as 20gb+ is average these days for AAA games buying physical on pc means a hassle of 5+ discs in most cases. But i guess everyone has his own preferences.

Um the internet infrastructure around the world is not good at all to be 100% digital and all software to be purchased and used from the internet.

There are people whose Internet Service Providers (ISP's) give them monthly data caps.

Some people around the world still have DSL or Dial-Up or very poor internet connections.

I have Comcast and I have 300GB's of monthly data caps and they charge me $120 dollars (USD) per month for the internet.

I honestly don't care if the physical boxed versions of the PC versions of video games have 5 DVD discs or 7 DVD discs or 10 DVD discs or even more than 10 DVD discs.

I still purchase the physical boxed versions of the PC versions of video games to have them as COLLECTIONS on my wooden SHELVES

So I have no problems with clutter I have HUGE WOODEN SHELVES. When those wooden shelves get full I buy another one and my house is pretty big and I doubt my wooden shelves will get completely full in my life time. I got 4 huge wooden shelves that can hold 400+ physical boxes of physical discs of any kind of software from movies to video games and so on.

I purchased 2 copies of the physical boxed version of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and 1 physical boxed version of the PC version of the collectors edition of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt.

btw can somebody translate what the guy in the video is saying? Something about Steam installer?

Of course, regardless of how much data there is on the disc, there'll be a "steam installer" (i.e, a thing to install Steam, and initialize the download of the rest of the data). The words "steam installer" don't mean that there's nothing on the disc.

Still, svcks that it's not 4-5 discs. It's also strange, since Beth has shipped multiple discs with other games.

edit: seriously, though, Beth. Either ship it on a Blu-ray & tell people ahead of time so they can upgrade their computers, ship on multiple DVDs, or don't do a physical version at all. The point of buying a disc is to avoid the download. If it doesn't avoid the download, then there's no reason to produce the damn thing.

I used to have fast internet, then I moved. Now I'm stuck with dish, DSL doesn't come here. I'm limited to 10 GB a month downloads at KB speeds. I pay $30 for 1 GB if I go over my limit. I pay the same price for internet here as I paid for fast internet.

My area is so rural that only the US mail and UPS deliver here. I saw a FedEx pull into my area and I almost rolled down my window to ask if they were lost, because I know they don't deliver here.

There is two towns 30 miles a part, I live in the middle. 15 miles to town either way and I'm considered rural where I live.

I foresee steam servers going down on November 10^th, +10 minutes after game launch..

Regarding some of the posts that question whether or not people buy physical PC games, of course many people buy the physical copy. They do it because it serves as a backup as well as very simple validation of ownership. It's far less messy than having faith that digital ownership claims will be honored in the future. Also, it allows it to be sold used at some point, unlike digital copies.