Don't you think it's pretty ignorant to tar a large group of people with the same brush because they have one thing in common?

And people wouldn't find fault in your posts if it were not there. If the fault is there, then people will find it.

Just out of interest, how old are you?

Ahh I was wondering when this would be asked.

I am 24 years old, I live In Orlando, I work for FedEx as a Technical anolystI have an AS degree in CIT and am working on a BS, I have an 8 month old daughter and fiancee and currently rent a Duplex.
I drive a 98 Camry and a 06 Kawasaki 650R. I am a mix of white and black and love all genres of music (except country)

I think that should be adequate information to form a hypothesis behind my posts.

So it's safe to say that you've grown up with the PC, and probably not started on consoles till later in your life, correct?

Incorrect, I grew up with both, primarily consoles in my youuth, my brother was 7 years older then me and helped me obtain my video game addiction. My earliest memories are around age 4 playing the NES, sega mastersystem and our Atari 2600, from there we bought SNES, gameboys, n64, ps2, gc and now current gen. We had an old old green mac computer that could play treasures such as Wheel of Fortune and D-Day. It wasnt until i was about 7-8 that i started to play on PC when we got our 486 and i played games on all systems, it wasnt until i was about 18 that I primarly played PC games.

Bethesda didn't make it, Splash Damage did. Bethesda only published.

Kudos to Steam. They just credited me with the money I spent on this piece of garbage. Wasn't expecting that

I'm playing this on PC because I knew it'd be better on PC, good luck trying to get players to work as a team on consoles, anything beyond TDM in shooters on consoles is a joke for casual players. I disagree about the bot thing though, this game claims it has a "campaign" and I was expecting one, and it's not, it's the multiplayer with or without bots... it was a poor decision and I felt mislead.

I own all current consoles, and a reasonable (I'm due for an upgrade) pc gaming rig and it looks alright, I definitely not holding 60 fps but it's ok. I do wish the 1p was a little more substantial and the AI at least moderately competent.

On the other hand, when playing with other players it's a lot of fun, the free running works surprisingly well and the objective based game play works on PC, I'm REALLY glad I didn't pick this up on console though, it would have been awful trying to get any of these objectives done with console gamers. I really do wish there was a "quick match" button though, I've been "joining session..." for as long as it took me to write this.

gripe, radial menus should not exist on PC... every time I see one I think consolization.

Why does everybody think you need to spend a couple grand on a gaming pc? Where are you shopping Alienware? If you don't know anything about computers, do a little research and build one yourself. Its not exactly rocket science. I spent a little under $700 on my current PC (thats including my monitor) over 2 years ago and its still able to max everything out (except original crysis and metro 2033, but not many people truly can, who the hell has a 2560 x 1600 monitor lol). You don't need to "constantly upgrade" as long as you make your PC good enough to play any current console game it'll play practically anything that generation of games has to offer (except the obvious PC only hardware benchmark games lol) but even those will be extremely playable.

oh ya and whats wrong with playing racing games on PC? use an xbox controller, problem solved. Also, if your the kinda guy that likes to chill on his couch to play games on his big screen, PC gaming may still be for you. Pretty much all current graphics cards offer HDMI out, so you could just hook your computer up to your TV.

Kinda pissed I got Brink for 360 after hearing all the good comments from the PC players. (damn friends getting it for 360!) I figured it would be a [censored] multi-platform port like most companies do nowadays. Nice to see some developers still show their support for PC. Kudos to you Splash Damage!

and just for the record I also own an xbox 360 and PS3, as well as multiple handhelds (I am not a PC elitist, though I generally prefer it for the flexibility)

and no I'm not some spoiled ass rich kid lol, just a normal 23 year old guy with a job

and for the tl;dr
PC's aren't that expensive, just build one

Tell that to the Halo pros.

PC- cost the most,
probably least popular gaming style (i know about 3 pc gamers out of the hundreds of ppl i know that play on console
in most opinion games in GENERAL WERE MADE FOR CONSOLES as gaming started in arcades on CONSOLES.
by the way every system out right now is a computer so i guess in a way your right

RTS's and MMO's still live largely (though not entirely) in the realm of PC gaming because with office hardware the sort of micromanagement both require is easy. The FPS genera, on the other hand, has made it's home on the consoles (to the effect of every major FPS franchise being of the consoles or at the very least selling best on them) because they aren't involve with such tedious opperations that don't translate easily to anologue sticks and only a few buttons.

Are PC players still under the delusion that the auto-aim on consoles in permanent?

It's not. In just about every game you can turn it off. And me and everybody else I've ever know set it to OFF before we even start up our first match.

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Seems that your statement is not quite correct. Flawless?
Is it a crime that consoles are not ready for 3 hour game completion? I thought this game was WAAAAAAYYYY too short. That is the main gripe about the game. The actual LACK there of being the factor.



24hours of play time and your a 15? PC version must have a slower scale for XP.

PC seems to think that the consoles are subpar like a porche owner to a Volkswagon. You paid more for yours(system) and it still has the same parts (content). Your $1,500+ system runs a game that is as lacking in content as my $199 system.

I would like to know how you pull that off, because I was always a PC player and was never able to do it. The best I was able to do was two years with an 1100 euro (that would be $1100 in the US) desktop before the graphics card broke. I replaced it with an ATI 5750 and that made the whole thing run like a pig. Before that I spent two years with a much more expensive computer that always crashed, and really that's the story of my life. The only PC's I have had that ran 100% were from the time of MS-DOS.

Seriously, I envy PC players that can use their PC's to the full.

It's called Newegg, thy give you great prices. You don't need to be a millionaire to buy a great comp set up, contrast to popular belief. You guys that buy consoles are gonna be sad when they eventual die out, just like they did the first time. Crysis developers complained about the lack of freedom they had to make the game great visually because of consoles limited capabilities. Soon you are going to be spending more money on an updated console every year, than you would by investing in a computer which can handle just about anything you throw at it. Computers are better because you can customize the parts, with consoles that is not an option, I'm sure they will be making you spend thousands of dollars on an updated console like every year, It's what microsoft does.

For me it's really not about the money. I never mind spending a bit extra for quality. The thing is that I have never had a quality PC and changing only one thing on a PC that runs well, seems to always unbalance the whole thing. The PS3 I have now runs so much more stable and I never have to fiddle with the graphics settings to get it to run smoothly. If I could be sure that 1000 or even 1500 euro's (in the US it would be $1000 to $1500) would get me a perfectly stable game PC for three or four years, I wouldn't mind spending that. I just never have been able to run a PC smoothly.

I doubt by the way that consoles will become as expensive as PC's, although I would like to see a PS4 sooner rather than later.

Quote of the decade, :run: :dmc: :run: :dmc:

sorry but auto aim is built into all console FPS games. you just dont have a setting for it. you might be able to play well with a controller but its never 100% you doing the aiming. it generally smoothes out and helps you aim on an enemy. if brink doesnt have this then its the first console game not to have it.

fair play to you if you use a controller, i will personally keep using a mouse and knowing 100% that every good shot is 100% me doing it.

Research, Research, Research

At least thats what I think the key is. Buy the stuff you want that you've researched to be good at a good price. Ya you might not be able to get that PC right when you want it, but if you have some patience you can snag some great deals and build that killer PC on a small budget. As far as stability goes, I've never had any problems with any of the multiple PC's I've built. I think a lot of people forget that a PC is similar to a car in the fact that you have to maintain it just as you do a car to keep it running well.

And now the Pc gaming ignorance kicks in
I play on my Playstation 3 because it suites all of my desires.
A game released on multiple platforms SHOULD (in this era) be up to general standards.
End of story.

This, you can make some pretty insane deals on pc hardware if you know when to look and where to look.
For example, never buy the latest gen of gfx cards, by the gen just before because their price will have dropped beyond belief, unless you find one of the new-gen cards at a ridiculous low price ofcourse. The thing to remember though is, do not be impatient, and use the internet to its fullest. I was a bit impatient to upgrade my last gfx card (GTX 260) so I got myself a GTX 460, 1 or 2 months later I saw the 560 at the same price I paid for the 460 . So be patient, and you can build an incredible machine for very little cash. It will more than likely be a bit more expensive than a console though, but your games will look prettier.

If you want to generate an intelligent discussion try making your points without patronizing other members. You will avoid a lot of the flaming console war type responses. We all know that mouse + keyboard are more precise than the console controllers, many console owners such as myself prefer them to PC because they allow us to sit on the couch and play on our big screens. Not everyone has the time or money to invest in keeping a PC gaming rig up to date. I for one just like playing the games never felt like spending hours tweaking / updating my settings just so that I could run the newest titles. The console platform allows everyone to have an equal footing hardware wise.

So you built them yourself?
I have mostly had (somewhat) high end off-the-shelf PC's. My last one was an HP Pavilion which ran nicely (although not flawless) for two years, but after I replaced the graphics card with an ATI 5750 the thing became unstable. Even killed my first ASUS ATI 5750 within days. Got a new Sapphire card from the shop, but I reached my limit with PC's and don't trust it enough to run at 100%. It already started to hiccup running Dragon Age: Origins at considerably less than max settings.

I'm sure it must be me being cursed or something.

Never had such a problem, and I build my own pc's aswell... I have had trouble assembling them, but usually on my own part for not researching properly. Like, to install vista 64bit I could only use 1 GB ram, but I had 4 in my pc, and I got royally pissed off when it wouldnt work haha. Anyway I learned my lesson

I think that must be it, because I simply don't have the time, talent or interest to deal with building a PC. I wish I did because I would love to deal with a lot of problems myself instead of having to send the darn thing off for repairs and pay through the nose to get it done, only to find they didn't do it right. The PC I had before this one cost me around 2000 euro's, 800 buying, 1200 in repairs and updates, and never worked properly. I think one of my uncles has it now and he found the problem was in a single bad wire.... Typical! :facepalm: