PC Version Request To Bethesda

Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:38 pm

Couldn't find a thread that was on the PC version so figured I'd start one. All this is is my simple request to the developers after seeing an article about the console versions being the lead SKU. To me that just sounds like a death bell ringing that PC gamers are gonna get shafted. So in 3 sentences:

Please do not skimp out on the PC version of Skyrim. No insane DRM with install limits and constant online etc... Example personally as a service member we go to alot of place where the internet connection is terrible. When I'd get some free time and want to play something this makes things super difficult on on alot of modern PC games. I invested alot of money into my PC stuff, only to get accused of something only a portion does. I've bought every game I've got. May pirates computers explode and burn em all in hell

Please don't give us consolized menus and gimped aiming/controls etc.. It's all too common with alot of games now days.

And last please give us the detailed graphics and attention to detail we've come to know and love from you guys. They were always sharp and crisp. My 360 (on a 52 inch LED bravia) version doesn't even come close to comparing to my PC version (same set up). We drop all this money into our rigs because we want to experience your game as best as possible. To walk into that forest or dungeon and go holy crap.

All in all I ask you don't forget you're roots. You guys are one of the few companies left out there that haven't succumbed to all this. Remember the love of the game. Hell money is great, but if the industry keeps going the way it is, we'll keep getting bland boring cash cows. I'm starting to feel like it's just not worth it anymore because we keep getting smacked around, even though I gave my hard earned money to enjoy all your hard work. Don't give in. And for those of you that are gonna come in here talking all this [censored] BS about PC elitism etc.. it's not, I own Oblivion and Morrowind on XBOX and PC. Just want a great company that always made great games we've supported through out the years to remember us and show that love back. If that's all you're gonna be in here doing and bashing then to hell with you, go on some other forum. Anyway looking forward to Skyrim. Specially to see what the Argonians and Khajits are gonna look like.
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:17 pm

Couldn't find a thread that was on the PC version so figured I'd start one. All this is is my simple request to the developers after seeing an article about the console versions being the lead SKU. To me that just sounds like a death bell ringing that PC gamers are gonna get shafted. So in 3 sentences:

Please do not skimp out on the PC version of Skyrim. No insane DRM with install limits and constant online etc... Example personally as a service member we go to alot of place where the internet connection is terrible. When I'd get some free time and want to play something this makes things super difficult on on alot of modern PC games. I invested alot of money into my PC stuff, only to get accused of something only a portion does. I've bought every game I've got. May pirates computers explode and burn em all in hell

Please don't give us consolized menus and gimped aiming/controls etc.. It's all too common with alot of games now days.

And last please give us the detailed graphics and attention to detail we've come to know and love from you guys. They were always sharp and crisp. My 360 (on a 52 inch LED bravia) version doesn't even come close to comparing to my PC version (same set up). We drop all this money into our rigs because we want to experience your game as best as possible. To walk into that forest or dungeon and go holy crap.

All in all I ask you don't forget you're roots. You guys are one of the few companies left out there that haven't succumbed to all this. Remember the love of the game. Hell money is great, but if the industry keeps going the way it is, we'll keep getting bland boring cash cows. I'm starting to feel like it's just not worth it anymore because we keep getting smacked around, even though I gave my hard earned money to enjoy all your hard work. Don't give in. And for those of you that are gonna come in here talking all this [censored] BS about PC elitism etc.. it's not, I own Oblivion and Morrowind on XBOX and PC. Just want a great company that always made great games we've supported through out the years to remember us and show that love back. If that's all you're gonna be in here doing and bashing then to hell with you, go on some other forum. Anyway looking forward to Skyrim. Specially to see what the Argonians and Khajits are gonna look like.


The only DRM Skyrim would use is Steam.
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:03 pm

The only DRM Skyrim would use is Steam.


I'm not buying Skyrim until Steam shuts down if Skyrim is going to require Steam. Remember Dragon Age? That was terrible. Get banned on the site, you get banned in the game. If we get banned on Steam, we'll probably be banned in Skyrim. And not everyone has internet connection.
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:08 pm

I'm not buying Skyrim until Steam shuts down if Skyrim is going to require Steam.

you wont buy skyrim then. bethesda doesnt care for one customer if it prevents alot of piracy
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:51 am

you wont buy skyrim then. bethesda doesnt care for one customer if it prevents alot of piracy


One customer? You should really edit this post.
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:21 am

Bethesda needs to go the DICE route next game, like alot of other developers are starting to do. Make PC the lead platform, then port it to consoles and make adjustments.
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:47 am

Ya steam prevents alot of piracy..... Wait no it doesn't? Steam prevents resales, that's it. Every aaa game on steam is either out same day, or weeks earlier, same as any other drm. Only with steam each OWNED copy is stuck to one account for life.


@ op, hope Beth does everything in their power to make this a great pc game, as well as console. I'm praying for a better ui!
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:26 pm

you wont buy skyrim then. bethesda doesnt care for one customer if it prevents alot of piracy



One customer? You should really edit this post.

This...


DRM like Steam hurts more then it solves, depending on how its used. This isnt always the case, but steam does screw up alot. I bought a game once legitimately from a store, and couldnt play it for 2 weeks because i was under way thanks to [censored] DRM. Did i steal the game? no. The only crime i committed was lacking an available internet connection.

Oblivion was great. Just keep the disk and no problems... they should have seriously kept to this, rather than [censored] out to Steam. Mine as well pick up starforce at that point.

I'll go as far to say that DRM hurts the legitimate consumer, more than the people its intended for, and still is ineffective 99% of the time.
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:32 am

Ya steam prevents alot of piracy..... Wait no it doesn't? Steam prevents resales, that's it. Every aaa game on steam is either out same day, or weeks earlier, same as any other drm. Only with steam each OWNED copy is stuck to one account for life.


@ op, hope Beth does everything in their power to make this a great pc game, as well as console. I'm praying for a better ui!


I agree. And the UI in Oblivion was looked way too much like a console UI. Looking at the demo video, it seems it got a lot better.



DRM like Steam hurts more then it solves, depending on how its used. This isnt always the case, but steam does screw up alot. I bought a game once legitimately from a store, and couldnt play it for 2 weeks because i was under way thanks to [censored] DRM. Did i steal the game? no. The only crime i committed was lacking an available internet connection.

Oblivion was great. Just keep the disk and no problems... they should have seriously kept to this, rather than [censored] out to Steam. Mine as well pick up starforce.

I'll go as far to say that DRM hurts the legitimate consumer, more than the people its intended for.


I also agree with this. :thumbsup:


And it's not like Steam is going to prevent piracy. Nothing is. People are still going to provide illegal downloads/copies of Skyrim and other games. Steam is not the solution, rather it's the problem. People who pirate games mainly hurt themselves. They aren't playing Skyrim when they pirated it. They're playing fake Skyrim.
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:19 pm

Bethesda needs to go the DICE route next game, like alot of other developers are starting to do. Make PC the lead platform, then port it to consoles and make adjustments.

Damn straight.
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:02 am

tell me.. do you really think they would give is these things? do you REALLLY THINK , THAT THE GUYS MAKING ONE OF THE MOST ANTECIPATED GAMES OF E3... IS GOING TO FORGET ABOUT PC USERS? is really what you think?....
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:14 pm

Bethesda needs to go the DICE route next game, like alot of other developers are starting to do. Make PC the lead platform, then port it to consoles and make adjustments.


Don't they already do this? I don't have a single clue on how they make games for consoles, but don't they start with the PC?
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:07 pm

you wont buy skyrim then. bethesda doesnt care for one customer if it prevents alot of piracy

one person, sure. but up to 40% of potential PC customers may not buy if Steam is a requirement & I haven't seen where Steam has impacted anyone but the legit customer.
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:30 am

Don't they already do this? I don't have a single clue on how they make games for consoles, but don't they start with the PC?


They MAKE THEM with a pc... For the console. It then has to be "modified" to work on the PC...

They do it this way because its easier to start at the lowest bar, then work your way up, rather then trying to step a game down so it will operate smoothly with lesser hardware.
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:51 am

tell me.. do you really think they would give is these things? do you REALLLY THINK , THAT THE GUYS MAKING ONE OF THE MOST ANTECIPATED GAMES OF E3... IS GOING TO FORGET ABOUT PC USERS? is really what you think?....


Remember Oblivion?
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:02 pm

one person, sure. but up to 40% of potential PC customers may not buy if Steam is a requirement & I haven't seen where Steam has impacted anyone but the legit customer.


Good point, because neither have I.
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:00 pm

I found a good example of Steam (or any other DRM) in a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTgnDLWeeaM&feature=channel_video_title. Think about Skyrim as the kid.
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:53 pm

Remember Oblivion?



i dont have problem in oblivion playing on pc

besides,consoles runs oblivion even worse,and im a console gamer now
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:26 am

i dont have problem in oblivion playing on pc

besides,consoles runs oblivion even worse,and im a console gamer now


Compare Oblivion's UI to http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10763.
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:31 pm

Bethesda needs to go the DICE route next game, like alot of other developers are starting to do. Make PC the lead platform, then port it to consoles and make adjustments.


Dice isnt doing this.

DICE doesnt give a damn about the PC community and are just spreading lies to improve their PR because it's "trendy"
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:03 am

1.gonna use steam or game for windows

2.UI will probably be the same but there will be a mod for it

3.the PC version will have higher textures than that of a console
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Post » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:32 pm

Ya steam prevents alot of piracy..... Wait no it doesn't? Steam prevents resales, that's it. Every aaa game on steam is either out same day, or weeks earlier, same as any other drm. Only with steam each OWNED copy is stuck to one account for life.


@ op, hope Beth does everything in their power to make this a great pc game, as well as console. I'm praying for a better ui!

Does anybody resell an elder scroll game? Confused.

Steam probably stop plenty of piracy simply by being easy to use once you are a member, had they added a default demo system as in download an play any game for an hour or two they would stopped a magnitude more.

As for blocking an account because of forum trolling, that sounds like demanding to get sued if you ask me.
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:13 am

One word that puts all fears to rest - mods. The moment they announced continued support for the modding community, I stopped caring about Skyrim being developed primarily on the 360.

And for those who criticise Oblivion's UI and call it consolized, Morrowind's really wasn't much better. In fact, the inventory menu in Morrowind was hideous. Tons of tiny little images with no way of seeing what the item was until you dropped it onto your character - it was a nightmare. Skyrim's inventory looks SO much better than both Morrowind and Oblivion's (coming from a PC gamer).
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:56 am

Does anybody resell an elder scroll game? Confused.

Steam probably stop plenty of piracy simply by being easy to use once you are a member, had they added a default demo system as in download an play any game for an hour or two they would stopped a magnitude more.

As for blocking an account because of forum trolling, that sounds like demanding to get sued if you ask me.


I'll never give away one of my Elder Scrolls games! :takes Oblivion and holds it tightly:

And why hasn't BioWare been sued yet (they might have, but I haven't heard anything)? I know multiple cases of where people got banned on the site for trolling or whatever and banned from their games because of it.



And for those who criticise Oblivion's UI and call it consolized, Morrowind's really wasn't much better. In fact, the inventory menu in Morrowind was hideous. Tons of tiny little images with no way of seeing what the item was until you dropped it onto your character - it was a nightmare. Skyrim's inventory looks SO much better than both Morrowind and Oblivion's (coming from a PC gamer).


No one said that Morrowind's UI was good.
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Post » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:00 am

They MAKE THEM with a pc... For the console. It then has to be "modified" to work on the PC...

They do it this way because its easier to start at the lowest bar, then work your way up, rather then trying to step a game down so it will operate smoothly with lesser hardware.

Yes making the game so it demand 2GB of memory and then try to work on xbox would not work well :)
Main issue for me is UI, Skyrim interface looked decent, however I would like to get item weight and price the list in inventory, hated how it was done In New Vegas.
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