You won't see a major difference till you are really pushing the resolution, that's where they start to pull ahead a bit.

If you haven't noticed, there's hardly any mobile cards in that list. I doubt NTK is going to cater to mobile users any time soon since there's such a huge library of mobile cards out. This list is more meant for desktop cards. Plus there are not many game benchmarks out there covering mobile cards to give a proper bench. There is one that covers 3DMark benches, but it's certainly not the "all-telling" of benchmarks. Still better than nothing though and can give you a frame of reference:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

Each card has a link that leads to descriptions on how they compare to older versions of cards.


Well, it doesn't get any higher than 2560x1600 right now unless you're using two monitors and stretching the image across both screens.

For the most part, two of those is still rather pointless right now.

I own a 4870X2 and it's a great card. But two of those cards in CF is not worth it at the moment at any resolution. Mass Effect, CoD4 and Devil May Cry are notable execptions. Most other games only get a 10% increase. A lot of them won't have any, some games even perform worse.

This thread rocks big time. Just what I was hoping to find.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a good list (like this) of computer's and processors that perform great with Oblivion as well?
I see many references to different ones, but would love to find a comprehensive list dedicated to computers/processors and hardware other than GCards. (To go with this lovely thread of course) I'm in the midst of seeking out a new computer and have been really leaning towards a Dell XPS....But, that's info for another thread, eh?
I want to see what else is available that might be even better....I'm so behind on new hardware...

Thanks for any advice and thanks for this great thread!

If you are going to actually seek out the best stuff to have, just build it yourself, a lot cheaper...

When it comes to value for someone with much of an interest in games, major brand names aren't the economical route. If you are not willing to go it on your own, seek out a custom builder. You don't need a "Boutique" builder, either. There are a good many shops all around the country, perhaps even in your own town, who build custom PCs "to order" for a reasonable cost above the base figure for the parts. Find one. Some advertise in your local Craigslist, some in the classifieds, some in the last few PC magazines.

They are out there, and you can find them, if you look. Then runs some searches on the 'net for pro and con feedback about whatever one(s) you want to consider.

For non-USA members here, the same kind of thing is also available, but there are many fewer such shops so far, outside of Canada, the US, the UK, and some west European places. Your search may be harder, is all.

Well, it's always a good thing to save money......but,
I would still really like to know if there are computers that are already packaged (such as an XPS) that are strong enough to run Oblivion maxed out.
I know that custom built is the way to go, but aren't there any commercial packages, though more expensive, that are comparable? I'm always up for doing upgrades myself, but I'd like a well-supported base system with warranty and such.
So, any links to these types of computers that are pre-built, but still kick-ass? I always read things about awesome computers, blazing specs etc, but I'd be interested in seeing people's real-life experiences, especially with Oblivion in mind. (Back to my initial question, ha)

Well, it really is dependent on the amount you wish to spend. You can get warranties at any PC customization site, so that's a non-issue. However, the XPS isn't exactly the best option since they tend to be overpriced far too much. If you want an excellent gaming rig, customize at one of these places and pick up a warranty there:
http://vigorgaming.com/
http://www.buyxg.com/

....If you need help choosing parts, then open up a new thread (so not to clutter this one) and indicate:

1.) your budget in your country's currency
2.) what country you reside if not listed in your avatar area
3.) pre-assembled PC? ...or can you build your own?
4.) what is needed other than the PC tower? Monitor, speakers, mouse, keyboard, Windows OS disc? All these can jack up the price.

how did that end up, up there?!?

seriously, move it back to the Very-Low End section. The GMA 3000 belongs in the Outdated section too, as it requires you have oldblivion. As far i know the GMA x3000 will run the game will oblivion, but would properly benifit from having oldblivion.

we dont want to be giving people the idea the X3100 is a card that will run the game for them no worries....

im suprised Gorath hasnt picked up on it yet. Just loves giving the intel chip a bit of a verbal bashing

Talking about low end... ATi released the 4550 a while back. Would be handy to have it in the list.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4550-512mb-review/

Not sure it can run Oblivion.

Here is another one... The ATi HD 4650.

http://www.guru3d.com/news/his-radeon-hd-4650-isilence-4-surfaces/

This one should be able to play Oblivion.

Then there is the 4870 1GB version which boosts high resolutions and video memory intensitive games (like some Oblivion mods).

And it looks like the 4850X2 will be out in the next couple of weeks. It should compete with the GTX280. No details yet.

http://www.guru3d.com/news/4850-x2-radeon/

From the nVidia front there is a new addition too...

The "Core 216" version (216 shaders) of the GTX260:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/evga-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-superclocked-review/

Although not from a reliable source, we might see the GTX270, GTX290 and a GX2 in november:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/10/08/nvidia-270-290-gx2-roll

I just thought we should bring this up, don't want to let it drift too far away...

I know ive brang this up a fair bit, but its moved again:



Intel GMA 3000 cannot run the game, no if buts or maybes.

Intel GMA X3000 cannot run the game, no if buts or maybes.

Intel GMA x3100 can run the game up to low graphics depending on RAM. With many preformance mods, up to medium.


Please fix this before someone with these cards thinks they will be able to have a good experience with these chipsets, they should be Outdated, Outdated, Low-End. Also, seperate them, they are all different chipsets, they are not just the same under different names.

Have you PM'd about it to NTK?

I got a new computer circa November, and even though I've been playing Oblivion on my 360 forever, I'd like to try out the PC (for the mods, of course).

The problem is, while I'm fine with the CPU and RAM, every testing service gets confused with my graphics card. I have a Radeon 3200 HD mobility integrated, and I see on the list it's labeled as "mid range". What could I expect?

For reference, my processor is an AMD turionx2 64 and I have 4 gigs of ram, and I'm running 64-bit Vista.

Nothing wrong with anything else; but that Mobility 3200 is not a powerful GPU. It's comparable to the earlier HD 2400 and X1400 and to the nVidia 8400M GS.

Should be good enough for medium settings.

What could I expect in terms of framerate indoors? Outdoors? I will probably end up lowering most of the settings (If I want to play it pretty, I'll load it up on the 360 and use the HDTV) for the sake of performance.

That chipset will get you low settings anyways. Any part of medium will turn the game into a slideshow. Indoor fps is usually high for any supported video card...it's the outdoors that will kill your chipset, don't be surprised if your fps is in the teens outdoors at low settings.

My G100 plays the game on High Settings, constant 60+ FPS, only time I found a slight drop was in Cloud Ruler Temple Hall.
You might want to add it to the list...

Erm, what? What exactly is that card?

Sounds onboard, in which case you definitely DON'T run at that and get those settings.

Sounds like a Matrox MGA G100 lol

No 3D card exists by that name, per GPU Review, so it's most likely an inaccurate reference or a mere troll.

Ten years ago, Matrox had a cheap card with that name:

http://www.pcavtech.com/vidcards/mg100a8.htm

Couldn't even run Quake II at lowest?

GeForce G100, it just came out...
I was asking about it earlier, and no one has any idea what it is.
But hey, it runs games extremely well...

Great...another way for Nvidia to mess up the model number scheme of things. :rolleyes:

What you have is a rebranded 9400GT...the G100 is just a code used specifically by OEM companies like Acer and Packard Bell. There's also the G120 (9500GT) and the G130 (9600GSO), which are better cards.