uggh - right. One wet dream follows another ...

if you dont like it ignore it while we have fun with it.

With one small exception: when the Nerevarine met Vivec in his Temple in Morrowind. That doesn't invalidate the general (correct, imho) direction of your thinking, though.
"Welcome to CHIMVILLE, pop: 1"
Which raises the question: "If it wasn't Vivec who had CHIM at the time the Nerevarine visited him, then who did?"

Given Vivek is no longer even the power that he pretended to ... by his own admission - given he has totally fallen away from his previous arrogance and has not the same political need that he had that might have been an excuse for his writings - where would this spring from? The Sheogorath who was defeated and cast aside - Azura's former enemy ... gone. The new Sheogorrath? Nah, that one would not want Vivec ... etc, etc ... so it's an empty shell ... it goes nowhere - unless it is a real-world manoeuver intended to embarrass ... in which case it is stripped of genuine artistic merit and yet it is published material and subject to legal nicety.

him having CHIM doesnt prevent him from appearing corporeal... unless you are referring to something he said (i havent played MW in a long time)

1999: i have no idea what you just said.

Being corporeal doesn't really have something to do with CHIM, what I said, I meant literally. And it's not something Vivec said in Morrowind either. It's about CHIM - and Vivec when the Nerevarine met him didn't have CHIM (per definition). This thread is becoming more and more similar to the current CHIM thread, so allow me to direct you to a point of said thread which I think may be of relevance: http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=864305&view=findpost&p=12595953.
Forgive those cross-references, if you'd be so kind, but the most certain way of destroying CHIM is telling what it is about right away.

Vehk has chim you fool, the trial war semi-offical.

And no one insults vehk!

*lunges at 1999 with a chiten knife*

Your contempt is laughable. Someone needs to frame your reference.

Good to see that kind of spirit in the Arena! I'll pin his arms for you . . . Just kidding.

'Lady' Nerevar - I know

1999 brushes presumed chitten knife with a spellchecker and the presumed knife crumbles into an equally impotent and merely malicious desire ...

paw-prints-in-the-mud Your contempt is unfortunate - it shows a wish to claim that involvement in one world precludes consequences of actions there affecting you in the other world.

Nalion
Whereas your presentation is exquisitely mannered and I thank you

- that 'stuff' I figured out over 50 yrs ago ... and I've been having fun with it and other, rather more sophisticated, 'stuff' since then ... however you have to be aware that in a duality, or multiplicity that extends through multiple dimensions, there may be forces that you cannot personally monitor, only hypothesise about ... and there are potential consequences to actions in the one world that could be destructive beyond the dreams of petty malice that others have been indulging, such that they find themselves hoisted on the petards of other people that they have superficially laid claim to.

forgive me for being a bit pointed and without punctuation
Now if you bury your head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge the existance of those forces or apply ineffective tools to deal with them and their consequences while otherwise carrying on with things that may interfere with them in ways that may cause them to react in ways that are harmfull to you or your aspirations or when you abuse your privilege then things can and do happen that you may find exceedingly uncomfortable


On another note if I were a powerful world leader and someone used chim as an excuse to commit acts of a disagreeable nature on the character that my dearly beloved by all wife was portraying I might just feel that things had gone a bit too far and be tempted to use a tiny fraction of my influence to do something about it - even if my darling and far too innocent wife asked me not to. geddit?

I don't see the point in your running commentary on everyone's posts here, but Paw Prints is right. It is laughable.

1999:

You should get yourself examined, paranoia is one the symptoms of onsetting schizophrenia. You've got about the right age for that. While I don't know exactly what you're saying in your last post, it sounds just way off the rocker to be taken seriously.

And on that note, I am going to close this thread before anybody says anything the moderators will be forced to make him regret.

1999, your inbox is full, so I am going to tell you this openly instead of by PM. Your posts in the Lore forum are not in keeping with the standards of discussion the regulars of that forum expect and have the right to expect. It appears you are making them for the purpose of inciting controversy, with the intent of simply taking a position contrary to anything explained to you.

You are missing an important frame of reference that is essential to successful discussions of lore, and that is that lore is a self-contained world established by canonical writings and secondary writings generally accepted by the community, not what others would have it be and not dependent on anology to the real world for its truth.

Arguing that lore is not what authoritative sources state it is is trolling as that is understood on these forums, and I am asking you to cease and desist from that manner of argument.