I am seriously not impressed by Crytek anymore!

this is too damn complicated
you should have make a votekick feature like in counter strike
you fail at everything :/

this is too damn complicated
you should have make a votekick feature like in counter strike
you fail at everything :/

sad but true.

Vote kick was a bad idea to implement in the first place. It doesn't solve the problem, only alleviates the symptoms for like... 15 to 30 seconds. The person will just rejoin and rejoin and rejoin and rejoin.

Vote kick was a bad idea to implement in the first place. It doesn't solve the problem, only alleviates the symptoms for like... 15 to 30 seconds. The person will just rejoin and rejoin and rejoin and rejoin.
As mentioned in the OP, default kick time is 10 minutes. This can be changed by server admins.

Kicked people can't join same server, and major reason for vote-kick is not to erase cheating people, but to force people to play without cheats. Some people will get brain and drop
cheating because they will get tired of being kicked, and some will never quite because they just don't have brain... it's like with punk which is biching more and more no matter how much you gonna kick his arse.

another round, another cheater, another failed attempt to votekick ...
there should be a real easy way to vote for the stupid players who cant open the damn console

and btw: like i already mentioned: the jackal is beast now thanks for making the shotgun not useless any longer crytek
although the marshall is still pretty useless, now even more.

I am so SICK AND TIRED of having to tell players what a "TILDE" key is (guys its that goofy symbol to the left of the number 1 key, no not the 1 key on the number pad the other 1). Then having to explain how to type it in, while the hackers roaming free. Then there is always still one or two guys who dont understand and the vote falls short by 1 or 2. Sigh...its not a bad system but Crytek needs to realize that most people barely capable of inserting disc hitting "next" and getting the game loaded onto their HDD to begin with.
Ok seriously now people this is some good advice to you if your not to computer literate. They try and make most software and stuff dummy proof, but take the time and go through things learn your pc its yours! When your bored try things out use the help menus, google things and go through the options, when you find something you don't know what it is use wikipedia. Basically just educate yourselfs on how to use your pc. Take the time to explore it and see how it works.

Crytek,

You guys are seriously one of the best game developers out there, I mean your tech is generally light years ahead of others... (Far Cry, Crysis - games were great, storylines creative, etc...) The game engines that you have created are truly mind-blowing along with your ability to create great action pieces.

I have been working very hard to talk a co-worker into getting this game, but I'm really glad he didn't buy it yet as the multiplayer is becoming such a hack-fest joke.

As a developer myself, I understand it's hard to "throw away" code etc... but clearly the way you are handling or rather "attempting" to handle the hacking is making this "could be great" game a freakin' joke.

As much as I hate to say it, because it's a love-hate relationship for me, but perhaps including Punkbuster into your game ALONG with what you already have would work better in the long run. I also play BFBC2 and I've logged over 80 hours and I really cannot recall a night where I felt like a hacker was even present, much less ruining my gaming. I'm sure they exist as I "briefly" notice names of people being kicked by punkbuster a lot, but it doesn't ruin my game and in all of those hours I truly cannot recall an actual example of hacking that affected me. And yeah, Punkbuster can be a pain when it's "supposed" to auto-update and it doesn't and you get booted from a server because your client files are out of date, etc... blah, blah, blah I understand it isn't perfect, but the end result is that BFBC2 is generally hack free from my experience. Considering since you guys and DICE are both published by EA, I would think it would not be an impossible task for you guys to get a version that supports Punkbuster up and running fairly quickly.

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Cry-Adam, please consider doing something like this!!!

Another additional suggestion:
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Since you supposedly have server side code already in place that is supposed to fight against the hackers, why not allow for an easy to use interface that allows players to report a player specifically to the server where the server could then run some kind of "integrity" check on that player to see if anything is out of place, such as "abnormally high kdr, extreme accuracy, checking client vs server settings on speed/armour/cloak settings, etc..." If this could be started with a simple function key press I believe it would be a great starting point.

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The Idea:
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F4 - Pressing F4 would present an overlay menu of players with a text box at the top that allows for quick filtering so you can drill down to the player that you wish to report.

After selecting the player, the server would then send special code to the client to do the following...

1) Check important game values:
check for abnormally high kdr
check for extreme accuracy
even check chat to see if anyone is complaining of hacking involving the reported player, etc...
speed settings
armour settings
cloak settings
max health
is clipping enabled/disabled
suit modules and their level
# of equiped suit modules
I'm sure this list could go on and on...

2) Force their local punkbuster client to scan for hacks
I have no idea where to start, but I'm assuming a process scan etc... would most likely occur here to attempt to find known hacks, etc...

3) If steps 1 or 2 return anything invalid OR if nothing is returned (say the hackers attempt to circumvent the messaging), I would then assume the person to be a hacker and boot them from the server and write them to a "masterlist" so that if they continue to be flagged as a hacker from multiple servers, they get perma-banned from all servers. Then it would be on them to clear their name with Crytek/EA in order to play again.

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Example:
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During a match Player "EA PWNDYDUALL" (yeah, this jerk is a real hacker that I've run into multiple times!!!!!) is doing his usual, yeah I've got a small weenie and I'm going to stay in one spot and single shot everyone, blah, blah, blah garbage... oh yeah, it's impossible for you to kill me because I have more armour than all of you put together (small weenie, did I mention that?) blah, blah, blah..

I would press F4

Locate the douchebags name and the server would do it's thing.

After seeing the extemely high KDR, extremely high accuracy, getting client vs server results for settings, etc... very quickly the server would be able to determine this person is 99.9% a hacker.

"EA PWNDYDUALL" would be kicked

"EA PWNDYDUALL" would be added to "masterlist"

"EA PWNDYDUALL" has a small weenie and would not learn lesson and rinse/repeat his fate on another server and be added to "masterlist" again

"EA PWNDYDUALL" is banned, one more LOS3R gone from MP and legitimate players breath a sigh of relief

Thanks for listening,

Aimin4YouCry2

This calling everyone who isnt aware of the console commands stupid n00bs is getting pretty tedious. You would probably be pretty uncomfortable in a world were everyone was as special as you. Ooops. Youre in it. STFU.

Something like votekick, implemented the way it is, requires a cultural change to work. It takes a little time. If votekicking was in-your-face easy they'd be complaining again about stupid people not voting how/when they want them to. A GUI is just going to send the commands. More commands would be sent. More kicks, right and wrong, would occur. How the game culture would change is harder to predict. What is certain is that leading by good example is best for YOU. Leave here, and go play.

Stupid n00bs.

IMO The best patch ideas for everything Crysis 2 MP are those that might fragment the already floundering MP community the least and set the stage for the SDK release the best.

@Aimin4YouCry2

Your ideas are good, but the F4 menu overlay seems a bit hard to implement in a game that is already released. Mind you that the full sdk for crysis 2 will be released in august http://crymod.com/, it includes C++ and LUA code access, this in itself would enable developers to create something such as SSM for crysis2.

As for the PunkBuster scan feature, a simple screenshot of the players game would catch most hackers, screenshots captured by PB can be submitted at multiple sites:
http://www.punksbusted.com/cgi-bin/membership/publicbans.cgi
http://www.pbbans.com/mbi.php

PunkBuster was never fully implemented into any Crysis game. Most of the "checks for XXXXX" ideas are good, but in many games there are no-recoil glitches; a high kdr does not mean someone is hacking either.

@icomrade

Actually, it could simply be menu based...

Just like when playing now, if you hit Escape, which I'm sure would carry over to the Consoles as well and they added a menu item, like "Report Violation" or "Report Hacker" and then from there present the players, etc... I'm sure that wouldn't change too much and it would work within all environments.

And yeah, regarding the KDR I understand that "alone" could not allow you to determine hacking but the guy I was talking about the other day was 88 kills/ 1 death I mean he was being sooooo obvious, yet there's nothing we can do about it besides jump in another server, which just svcks

The other day my friend and I were shooting a guy on our own team that was hacking and guess what, he actually switched to a different server lol, I wish we could at least get that to catch on

Here's to hoping "something" gets done, but I'm not holding my breath

The VERY least Crytek could do would be to put the instructions for banning on the server loading screen or something because it's impossible to explain that to people during the game

a little suggestion: why not put some text on the loading screens on how to use the vote-kick system? i'm sure there's enough space on there to fit a couple of sentences to at least teach other people how to deal with cheaters via vote-kick.

note: i haven't read the whole thread, so this might have been suggested already.

a little suggestion: why not put some text on the loading screens on how to use the vote-kick system? i'm sure there's enough space on there to fit a couple of sentences to at least teach other people how to deal with cheaters via vote-kick.

note: i haven't read the whole thread, so this might have been suggested already.

Well, the server message is controlled on the server side, by the server owner, renter or host. The server message is controlled via a Cvar "g_messageOfTheDay", it's more likely Crytek will put this info about vote-kick in the newsfeed.

http://www.gamerconfig.eu/commands/crysis-2

So to get back to what it got deleted after one of the mods thought he was funny, this system literally blows.

How it was implemented, the thoughts behind it and how it was released. I just hope you didn't really waste dayson that or well soon the MP will be an hacker fight, who is better at using hacks.

The vote-to-kick feature is good and i want it but if that's all you can come up with, to fight the cheating in this game, dear Cryter, you might aswell give up and move to the next game. I'm seeing the same names of cheaters over and over again on the servers. The same cheaters/hackers on the scoreboard. The same stupid hacks over and over again, from day 1 of the MP. Your SP was probably a success, sure, what about your MP? You know in ages of MP gaming this is probably the worst experience i ever had. I'm still playing and hoping you will come up with something decent to at least block some of these cocksvckers.. i'm hopeless?

-Can we know what are you doing about that?
-Is it going to be always like that or you might start handing out these **** bans?
-How can you seriously think to release a game like that with a MP mode without protection to hacks/cracks and all
the other **** you can find in 2 mins on ggogle?

My patience is literally running out and i'm thinking in just quitting and playing something else(note: if that happens i will be sure to never buy anything that look like Crysis 2,5 or 3+).



P.s.= I managed to get 4 votes to kick an hacker after around 4-5 games, after that the server died, only the hacker was left in there. In these games i could do nothing but explain what to do, over and over again to the poor guys/kids who had no clue. GG.


Oh and while im here, your vote to kick system can be easily countered by "Name Changer" that im sure i seen somewhere on the interwebs, that means by the time we can kick someone he changed his username. Yea, once again a flaw in the system.

1.I'm glad that the kick vote finally is on, but the gamers that are posting here are right: you can't implement something official in a non official mode. I mean that you can't put a setting/command that is ment to be used by players in a debug/console window that is ment to be used by developers/testers. Is like you tell a driver to start the engine by link to wires under the hood, and not to turn the key in the cockpit.

2.This kick vote system will never work, because the hackers/cheaters always find a way to play and not being detected by most players. They will do less obvious modifications. And in a freaking rapid game like this (with 10 min of play in a round), no one will spend time to vote.

3.The only way to go for anticheating is a detection program/routines incorporated in the server; this program should read the settings and behavior of the players, nanosuits and guns, on start, mid and end of the game, and compare them with the normal settings designed by Crytek developers for normal gamming. When it detects an abnormality, the player should be kicked out automaticaly and all his progress deleted.

4.Clear the leaderboard; there are imposible scores - like accuracy >100%, that says CHEATER. And if someone is caught cheating, his scores must be collored in red, and should be an option for filtering this, so he can not praise with it.

A few minutes ago I played a few rounds Crysis 2 mp without cheaters. It was fun.

Then a cheater joined at the start of a new map. Only in 10 seconds he killed the whole team (aimbot etc.). His name was composed of "long" and "short vertical lines" and a "m" at the end. I tried to initiate a "votekick", but was unable to write his name. Many players (inluding me) left the server.

Crytek, please implement better anti-cheat measures and a better vote kick system.

So to get back to what it got deleted after one of the mods thought he was funny......

You are full of crap you know that?
I remember you from few days ago (maybe week) when me and 2 more people put 3 mags into your face and you killed us all running around like some f... chuck noris and melee everyone to death. I by myself put full mag into your chest + 3 melee swings into your face/chest meanwhile 2 more people were shooting at you from mid-range distance, and you didn't die. It happened few times more in that game, so i just noted your nick to remember who to vote-kick on sight when game will start.

Right too bad i changed name like 1 day ago. Maximum failure.

Right too bad i changed name like 1 day ago. Maximum failure.

ORLY? UIZSOPROZ. lolnoob^^

Right too bad i changed name like 1 day ago. Maximum failure.

ORLY? UIZSOPROZ. lolnoob^^

Which makes me think how random your comment was and if you was trolling ah well, once again someone on the interwebs got owned.

Right too bad i changed name like 1 day ago. Maximum failure.

ORLY? UIZSOPROZ. lolnoob^^

Which makes me think how random your comment was and if you was trolling ah well, once again someone on the interwebs got owned.

Only random here is you and your wisdom from trashcan which is even deleted by forum mods. Yep pure maximum failure, go back to hacking your way trough game, maybe by doing this you can fulfill yourself.

Children please be quiet, the advlts are trying to have a civilized conversation, with a degree of grammar.
Also read the rules: http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=5405

After you owned yourself so much in the last 2 posts you still have the balls to post? You are either stupid or brainless i guess.

1)The post(not only mine) was deleted cause it was posted after one of the 2 admins asked us(not in a decent way) to tell everyone in the game how to use the vote to kick.

2) I remember your name, i even remember playing with you(my previous nickname was Kapo87) but im pretty sure i never had any problem-s with you. If it really happened something similar at what you described, its probably the usual lag you get after the orbital strike and even if i had that someone probably killed me since i was stuck somewhere else, not where you was shooting probably. This happens in every game basically after each orbital strike.

3) I never used any type of hacks, do you really think i would use my time posting in this thread if i was using any type of hacks/cracked game?

4)How can you even tell that it was me since i told you i recently(2 days ago max) name-changed my username, are you on drugs and trying to prove something? I'm not really sure what have you seen or even who was that hacker but it wasn't me.

Yadayadayada you didn't change nick just 1 day ago nor even 2 days ago because it was few days (like not week) ago when you were running around with your dummy hacks. You don't get it do you? For me it doesn't matter if someone believe or not, i have witness you cheating and only this matter for me. BUT i was trying to force on your some reactions for fun and it works, you owned yourself when you posted some BS about changing nick, which is a lie, and trying to imply that i am trolling. You simply panic :X Your own stupidity give me ultimate proof of your maximum failure.

If you still don't get it ill refraze what i jsut said... I am not trying to prove here anything, i just say what i witness, and only you are here trying to prove something by denying and making stuff up to cover your own failure.

Have a nice day.

4)How can you even tell that it was me since i told you i recently(2 days ago max) name-changed my username, are you on drugs and trying to prove something? I'm not really sure what have you seen or even who was that hacker but it wasn't me.
Because you were have exactly same nick like you have now, and you can deny or make stuff up how much you want, i don't care, i saw what i saw and i am telling, you are full of crap.