[Relz] Vurt's Weather Settings for Bloom

Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:56 pm

Time for a release!


Looking forward to it :)

Yet again a small update to the ini in the first post, overcast (night) was too bright, looked strange when it switched to a brighter weather if it occured during night.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:55 pm

Intel C2D E8400 overclocked to 4.2GHz, ATI 4870x2, 4GB RAM, Windows7


you can see my fps in the left corner of the screens (view them as "raw image" and the screens get bigger ;) ).

Right now i'm having really good FPS, crossfire is working and its doubling my FPS. 45-60 FPS usually, but sometimes in the low 30's.

edit: no, the fps is in the lower RIGHT corner.

damn thats some nice performance... I'm lucky to stay above 10fps if I have all that enabled :(
what do you guys think would be most important for me to upgrade for gaming?
I have an intel core2duo e6600, 2gb ram, and a geforce 8800gtx w/ 768 ram

also, i dont have anything overclocked... think I could get significant improvements?
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:10 am

damn thats some nice performance... I'm lucky to stay above 10fps if I have all that enabled :(
what do you guys think would be most important for me to upgrade for gaming?
I have an intel core2duo e6600, 2gb ram, and a geforce 8800gtx w/ 768 ram

also, i dont have anything overclocked... think I could get significant improvements?


Depening on which motherboard you have you could probably overclock that CPU quite a bit.. Graphics cards can also be overclocked, just don't forget about cooling and monitoring the temperatures. It's always worth overclocking!

Here's a guide for overclocking C2D cpu's: http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/103676-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners.html

My suggestion would be to overlock the cpu and get a better graphics card.. that would be the cheapest option. RAM is important but going from 2 to 4 GB isnt such a big deal really, especially if you're on a 32bit OS (personally i stay away from 64bit OS's, there's always something that is incompatible with it, generally just more trouble.)

If you dont have a good motherboard for overclocking, get a new, the best you can find for overclocking + a new graphics card and you'll see a big improvement.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:06 am

Depening on which motherboard you have you could probably overclock that CPU quite a bit.. Graphics cards can also be overclocked, just don't forget about cooling and monitoring the temperatures. It's always worth overclocking!

Here's a guide for overclocking C2D cpu's: http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/103676-c2d-overclocking-guide-beginners.html

My suggestion would be to overlock the cpu and get a better graphics card.. that would be the cheapest option. RAM is important but going from 2 to 4 GB isnt such a big deal really, especially if you're on a 32bit OS (personally i stay away from 64bit OS's, there's always something that is incompatible with it, generally just more trouble.)

If you dont have a good motherboard for overclocking, get a new, the best you can find for overclocking + a new graphics card and you'll see a big improvement.

My motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-965G-DS3... no idea if its good ofr overclocking or not, been out of the OC loop for a while XD
edit: and for what its worth I am actually on Win7 64bit
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:25 am

That board is supposed to be quite good for overclocking.. just google it :) they're discussing overclocking this particular MB here for example: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=29&threadid=1926179&FTVAR_STKEYWORDFRM=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:32 am

That board is supposed to be quite good for overclocking.. just google it :) they're discussing overclocking this particular MB here for example: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=29&threadid=1926179&FTVAR_STKEYWORDFRM=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

cool thanks... one last question... my multiplier keeps jumping back and forth between 6 and 9 when I watch it in cpu-z or other monitoring software... is that... normal?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:31 pm

Nah, it's probably something with the power saving, the speed step-thingy in bios, it will increase and decrease like that. speed step is not something you want enabled for overclocking, obviously.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:05 pm

Nah, it's probably something with the power saving, the speed step-thingy in bios, it will increase and decrease like that. speed step is not something you want enabled for overclocking, obviously.

hm having trouble finding anything like that in the bios that is enabled :\ guess I'll haave to check it out later, thanks
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:21 pm

I can't seem to find TrueBloom_g6_3 anywhere. The latest I could find was TrueBloom_g5_3 and that doesn't seem to have the same variables as you listed. Am I missing something?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:14 pm

ImprovedWaterCaustic06a

Where did you get this one? If it is a personal tweak, could you upload it somewhere? :)

Edit: oops, found it, it's Phal's improved water waves.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:56 pm

hm having trouble finding anything like that in the bios that is enabled :\ guess I'll haave to check it out later, thanks

heh found it.. sneaky little setting that was. Anywho, oc'd from 2.4ghz per core to 2.6ghz per core. not a huge clock speed difference (don't wanna go to far, don't feel like tweaking voltages and cooling :P ) anywho small numbe difference but it actually garnered me 3-5fps, so SSAO is almost playable now. also decreased loading times significantly it seems :D

Anyway, back on topic, the weather settings here look like they're going in the right direction. The bloom, however.... Well, it was a bit much XD btw are you not using any HDR stuff?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:48 pm

very nice at sunset :)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9968/mgescreenshot2.png
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:54 am

Sarudak: It's already posted in the thread. But i've updated the first post with links
to all shaders that arent included in MGE.

MiralGS: hmm i think the bloom is quite right, i have however changed const float bloom_mult_global = 0.8f; to const float bloom_mult_global = 0.7f; now for my game.. but its almost a bit too vague now hehe. i'll try to tweak the bloom a bit more, i've mostly worked with the weather to match the bloom and not the other way around, might need to do both.

Not using any HDR no.. i think truebloom looks really good. Any HDR recommendations?

Just watch the temps in the bios.. a cpu can handle very high temps, as long as you're not above 60C (140F) you're ok, it can handle 10C more but just to be on the safe side. I always tend to go crazy with my overclocks (i have a 1200mhz overclock right now) and i've never killed a CPU due to it. If the computer doesnt start after an extreme overclock i just hold ins key when turning on the computer the go back to default settings, or i clear CMOS with the jumper or remove the CMOS battery if holding Insert doesnt work. But its good to take it easy in the beginning so you dont do anything stupid :)


ZiggyX: Nice, looks familiar, hehe :)
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:38 pm

Thanks for sharing that vurt.
Tweak for truebloom_g3 are very good : the effects are more subtle than before...

Weather tweaks seems good too : what is your sky replacer ?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:44 pm

I'm not using any replacer, its for the standard skies that comes with Oblivion, i think they're great except for the Fog sky which i dont like.



Also.. i might need to rework the light for all weathers.. i noticed that my gamma is put to +1 from default (kind of idiotic of me not to change it back before i started tweaking) so if you're using normal gamma your game will be too dark with these settings.. easy solution is just to put it up one notch..

when you take screenshots and your gamma is set to +1 the screenshots becomes dark though, and i dont like that cause i love taking screenshots :P, so i'll probably change all the settings, again.....
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:35 pm

Sarudak: It's already posted in the thread. But i've updated the first post with links
to all shaders that arent included in MGE.

MiralGS: hmm i think the bloom is quite right, i have however changed const float bloom_mult_global = 0.8f; to const float bloom_mult_global = 0.7f; now for my game.. but its almost a bit too vague now hehe. i'll try to tweak the bloom a bit more, i've mostly worked with the weather to match the bloom and not the other way around, might need to do both.

Not using any HDR no.. i think truebloom looks really good. Any HDR recommendations?

Just watch the temps in the bios.. a cpu can handle very high temps, as long as you're not above 60C (140F) you're ok, it can handle 10C more but just to be on the safe side. I always tend to go crazy with my overclocks (i have a 1200mhz overclock right now) and i've never killed a CPU due to it. If the computer doesnt start after an extreme overclock i just hold ins key when turning on the computer the go back to default settings, or i clear CMOS with the jumper or remove the CMOS battery if holding Insert doesnt work. But its good to take it easy in the beginning so you dont do anything stupid :)


ZiggyX: Nice, looks familiar, hehe :)

hm the bloom looked pretty vaseline-y on mine... maybe the bloom was just reacting badly with something else I had goin, I dunno... but I think the only different shader I had was HDR, the HDR4 that comes with MGE (pretty nice effects on that one, realistic eye adjustment)

btw, have you made any tweaks to your DOF or SSAO or are they stock? personally I halved the blur radius and falloff on DOF to make it a bit less... well, it made me feel like I needed an optometrist appointment XD

edit: now I'm really stumped, loaded it back up without any change to loaded shaders and the bloom looks correct now. nice!
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:35 am

Updated the settings to work with default gamma + many changes to sunset/sunrise.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:47 am

Updated the settings to work with default gamma + many changes to sunset/sunrise.
There isn't a [Weather] section in your latest edit, was that intentional?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:56 pm

There isn't a [Weather] section in your latest edit, was that intentional?


I have never posted it before, it shouldnt be needed since i havent done anything there except for testing purposes (hours between weather changes is "1" for testing etc).
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:45 am

I have never posted it before, it shouldnt be needed since i havent done anything there except for testing purposes (hours between weather changes is "1" for testing etc).

I coulda sworn you did have a weather entry before, with slightly edited sun glare settings and timescale clouds enabled O.O weird
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:59 pm

Oh damn, wasnt supposed to be posted since it contains my test settings. weather will change every hour if you used it, sun will probably disapear for those who doesnt use sunshaft.
Gah, i'll update my first post in case someone used it. It was probably not posed for long i hope since i'm constantly updating the first post
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:00 am

Oh damn, wasnt supposed to be posted since it contains my test settings. weather will change every hour if you used it, sun will probably disapear for those who doesnt use sunshaft.
Gah, i'll update my first post in case someone used it. It was probably not posed for long i hope since i'm constantly updating the first post

on the mention of sun, what sun textures do you use currently? defaults?

btw I just about had a heart attack... had cpu clocked to 3ghz, played smooth for a while but then BSOD... no biggie, lower clock back to 2.8ghz and consider that my optimum speed until I do fine tuning... WRONG! after i set it back to 2.8 it wouldn't even boot at all :cryvaultboy: tried everything with no luck... finally unplugged it and let it discharge a few minutes and then it came back up at 2.4ghz 9stock speed) so I think I'm gunna leave it there for a while :P
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:32 pm

Yes the default one for now.

About the overclocking, yeah that happens sometimes :D its only scary the first few times hehe
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:20 pm

First post updated with example pictures + the new .ini.

The night sky (clear weather) is now darker (looked too greyish before). Mornings (clear weather) now has better coloring (fog/ambient light), night skies for thunderstorms and rain has been made darker. Ambient light for clear weather (day) tweaked.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:06 am

First post updated with example pictures + the new .ini.

The night sky (clear weather) is now darker (looked too greyish before). Mornings (clear weather) now has better coloring (fog/ambient light), night skies for thunderstorms and rain has been made darker. Ambient light for clear weather (day) tweaked.

nice I'll have to check it out again... BTW I figured out why the first time I used it, it looked like too much bloom.... turns out I had done the edit to both trubloom g6-3 and an unreleased trubloom that I have in my folder... apparently I selected the unreleased one the first time and it seems to have different methods for dealing with the variable numbers XD
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