Vvardenfall

Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:19 pm

after landfall, who do you believe was well equipped enough to survive the disaster? Personally, I believe that Diviath Fyr survived, considering that he probably marked somewhere far away for research. I also believe that Nevar's bonewalker in Necrom survived, considering that it is... a bonewalker.
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Brandon Wilson
 
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:10 pm

Assuming they survived the initial impact and eruption, I could see at least some of the Ashlanders surviving in what was left.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:14 pm

Did I miss something? What happened in Morrowind?
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:30 am

Did I miss something? What happened in Morrowind?

In that book that came out, the Ministry of Truth finally fell and turned most of Vvardenfell into blasted nothing. And made the volcano erupty. The survivors fled to Soulstheim/Solstheim. The Loveletter did foreshadow it a bit. Oh, and then Argonians invaded Morrowind, who weren't exactly able to put up much of a resistance, you know, being weakened by the events of TES3, the Oblivion crisis, and then having a huge rock slam down on them.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:22 pm

after landfall, who do you believe was well equipped enough to survive the disaster? Personally, I believe that Diviath Fyr survived, considering that he probably marked somewhere far away for research. I also believe that Nevar's bonewalker in Necrom survived, considering that it is... a bonewalker.


If Fyr didn't survive, I will be very disappointed in him. And if Nerevarine didn't end up killing him, I'd say Gaenor survived as well, lucky little [censored]. Other than that tho, I can't think of any particular person off the top o' my head who could've survived Landfall...
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:37 pm

Oh, the novel. I didn't even know it was out. I think that they pick on Morrowind a bit too much! :D
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:14 am

Crassius Curio. If only because the world needs more filthy, filthy smut.

I'm also hoping Yagrum Bagarn survived, simply because it'd be a real tragedy, and Fyr doesn't seem like the kind of guy to leave his friends/lab experiments behind.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:46 am

In the unlikely event Vivec is both still alive and present in Vvardenfell at the time the thing fell, he may have had enough power to zap out of there. It's strongly implied that he's either dead, became a god again through other means or has left for distant shores by this time however. Divath Fyr and Yagrum were both powerful mages and could probably teleport. Other Telvanni Magelords who had time to prepare, maybe...

I can't imagine any non magic users had a chance at all. In fact, even the most powerful sorcerers who were too close to the impact crater would have had literally no time to prepare even a simple spell. I'm certain every living person in Vivec City was nuked to ashes, with the exception of Vuhon and Sul who were special cases. Since the Telvanni were mostly centered on islands pretty far from the impact crater, a few may have sensed what was going on through magical means and teleported to relative safety before the huge tidal waves and boiling waters overtook their towers.

Problem is they would have logically teleported to somewhere on mainland Morrowind, which was about to be overran by Argonians. Provided they also managed to escape that, then a few of them may very well be alive. But it's really a huge stretch and I doubt we're going to be hearing from any of those characters in any future installment again, with the possible exception of Fyr whom I maintain is simply too darn cool to kill off.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:01 pm

I'm very interested in seeing what the next game has to say about the state of the Dunmer, being set about 150 years after MW gets pwnt.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:01 am

In the unlikely event Vivec is both still alive and present in Vvardenfell at the time the thing fell, he may have had enough power to zap out of there. It's strongly implied that he's either dead, became a god again through other means or has left for distant shores by this time however.

Or forced Azura to give him head and therefore achieving CHIM for himself a while back.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:13 pm

According to the Loveletter, weren't the majority of survivors Eggminers or somesuch?

Maybe Helseth, but there is no mention. I could see Fyr surviving, but not his daughters or charges. Most people on the surface, particularly on Vvardenfell itself, were likely killed in the first few minutes.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:14 pm

If it's true that the most of the Survivors were Eggminers, this would mean that Vvardenfall couldn't have sunk completely.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:15 pm

If it's true that the most of the Survivors were Eggminers, this would mean that Vvardenfall couldn't have sunk completely.

It never did sink. The volcano did erupt, and would have annihilated most of the surface Vvardenfell, but not sink it. Also, anyone who was on the mainland could have survived if they fled quick enough. The argonians didn't invade till all the natural disasters occurred, so there is still more of a good chance Helseth could have taken a vacation out of MW for a while or something.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:33 am

The vast majority of people in the far north would have escaped, and some of the Ashlanders who would have known where to hide, and where to find supplies, but those in the southwest would have probably been able to find transport to the mainland. Whether or not that would have helped them much, I don't know, but they'd have been able to attempt it.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:20 pm

I'm not sure that the miners were egg-miners; I get more of the feeling from the Loveletter that they were mining Ebony and Glass. But I guess some could have been working with kwama eggs.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:20 pm

What the Argonian will do in and with Morrowind? Will they attach Morrowind to Black Marsh?
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:45 pm

I'm not sure that the miners were egg-miners; I get more of the feeling from the Loveletter that they were mining Ebony and Glass. But I guess some could have been working with kwama eggs.

well, I only see one problem with that though. Ebony and Glass mines are made by volcanic deposits. It may still well up into the mines themselves... I think. I never took Geology.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:53 pm

The question I wonder. If Red Mountain erupted, who became a god?
What the Argonian will do in and with Morrowind? Will they attach Morrowind to Black Marsh?

Yep, they're just gonna weld it onto the bottom good and tight, make sure it doesn't fall off. :flamethrower:

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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:34 pm

Probably we will not be able to visit Morrowind in TESV, but I hope Dunmer culture will flourish despite the hardship.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:03 pm

well, I only see one problem with that though. Ebony and Glass mines are made by volcanic deposits. It may still well up into the mines themselves... I think. I never took Geology.

I agree. I also remember that there were always eggmines close to the Northeastern coastal towns. (There's an eggmine in Gnisis, just northwest of Khuul, and I think there's one near Ald Velothi but don't quote me on that)
Also, another magelord that could have survived would be Baladas Demnevani. He would have been far enough from certainly Vivec and from Red Mountain to have time to teleport himself to safety. I can now imagine it. A bunch of Dunmer eggminers are probably cultivating crops in the Hirstaag forest while Baladas and Divayth are playing Volleyball on top of Karstaag's Castle.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:11 am

I agree. I also remember that there were always eggmines close to the Northeastern coastal towns. (There's an eggmine in Gnisis, just northwest of Khuul, and I think there's one near Ald Velothi but don't quote me on that)
Also, another magelord that could have survived would be Baladas Demnevani. He would have been far enough from certainly Vivec and from Red Mountain to have time to teleport himself to safety. I can now imagine it. A bunch of Dunmer eggminers are probably cultivating crops in the Hirstaag forest while Baladas and Divayth are playing Volleyball on top of Karstaag's Castle.


It's nice to think that Divayth got away, but I have the feeling Landfall and subsequent disasters might have struck so suddenly that even the mages might not have been able to react in time. The moon hitting Vivec City that close to water would have sent up tsunamis right away, I think; and then you'd probably have earthquakes, not just a volcanic eruption. I guess the main factor for survival would have been distance from the impact site.

At the same time, I hope some of the netch herders and their livestock could have survived and fled. Hopefully entire species haven't been wiped out; I'd like to hear if that occurred, out of curiosity.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:37 am

I agree. I also remember that there were always eggmines close to the Northeastern coastal towns. (There's an eggmine in Gnisis, just northwest of Khuul, and I think there's one near Ald Velothi but don't quote me on that)
Also, another magelord that could have survived would be Baladas Demnevani. He would have been far enough from certainly Vivec and from Red Mountain to have time to teleport himself to safety. I can now imagine it. A bunch of Dunmer eggminers are probably cultivating crops in the Hirstaag forest while Baladas and Divayth are playing Volleyball on top of Karstaag's Castle.

I think the telvanni may have been the most diverse group of "survivor or not?" Some were farther away, and some who were close may or may not have been able to teleport away in time. Really hard to tell.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:48 am

I think the telvanni may have been the most diverse group of "survivor or not?" Some were farther away, and some who were close may or may not have been able to teleport away in time. Really hard to tell.


No great loss in many cases, with half of the magelords already insane and all of them devoted to their own selfish interests. Aryon was one of the better ones, though I doubt he survived.

(This isn't a shot at Lycanthropic Nerevar, just an opinion from playing MW years ago.)
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:28 am

No great loss in many cases, with half of the magelords already insane and all of them devoted to their own selfish interests. Aryon was one of the better ones, though I doubt he survived.

(This isn't a shot at Lycanthropic Nerevar, just an opinion from playing MW years ago.)

Actually, the mad ones would almost certainly have died, lacking the awareness to actually try and get away. The ones like Aryon and Fyr actually would have the best chance of survival, assuming they had a plan. They were well-read folks, they may have heard about what Sul and Vuhon were doing, determined the chance of success was low, and fled. But there is no evidence for that, is there? Well, it's a hope spot.
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Post » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:17 pm

The other thing to take into consideration is how damn proud and land-hungry the Dunmer are. Especially the Telvanni. I'd imagine that some of the magelords would think they had the cojones to stand up to it or loved their land too much to try and flee in the possibly 5 seconds they had.
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