I was scanning through the Brink videos like a Terran scans in StarCraft2, and I realized an intresting predicament... That escort the weldy-bot mission is basically TF2's payload match. I know what your thinking "Fenrirr, Brink is its own unique game! How could this be so?".

Well I'll tell you the obvious and semi-obvious similarities:

Obvious)

1) Both escorting some sort of Object that is nesscessary for the missions completion

2) Cramped spaces, with plenty of over-hangs and stairs

3) Large bulk of forces moving together while the support classes help from the higher ground

Semi-Obvious)

1) Heavy-body type class with Miniguns galore, with medics buffing contantly in the back

2) Marksmen (Or sniper if you will) will hang around in back, waiting for vantage spot

3) The Object that is beneficial for completing the mission can only move if units (or in Brinks case: The Engineer) are within a close radius.

This puts this mission at a consensus that it is indeed very similar to the Payload matches of TF2, not saying this a bad thing... just pointing it out.

I don't know if this is going to help or hurt your theory but last I checked anybody could escort the bot.

That just makes it more like TF2

LOTS of games have escort missions

I don't know about that. I thought in the video where they escorted the bot in the Container City the narrator said something like "Now that the door has been opened our player runs back to the Command Post to become an engineer so he can start moving the bot.

Even if it was identical to tf2 i don't think it really matters. its kind of like saying "there's team deathmatch in halo, so call of duty imitated them." or whichever was first.

Nope just the engie or so I heard. At least he is the only one that can repair it.



It doesn't matter in my mind. Payload is a single objective gamemode while escort the bot is a single objective on the map so similar but not at all the same.

There is escort a VIP mission OMG the reminds me of that mission of from Section 8.

You also had "escort missions" in W:ET like the railgun where you rode the train or gold rush where you sat beside the truck

I seem to remember reading that it won't move unless there's an engineer within it's vicinity...

Beat me to it, it can definitely be argued that TF2 borrowed those concepts from W:ET, especially the goldrush map.

Wait FPS games borrowing ideas from each other. Who could possible believe such a silly notion/ :spotted owl:

Nice observation, doesn't change my opinion of brink tho... Hell if somebody knocked off every great thing in every game, then it'd be the best game ever right?

SD had escort mission in W:ET, which was out years before TF2 was.

So everyone can move the bot, not just Engineers..? :l

If every game started from square one and borrowed absolutely zero concepts from the other games in the genre, there wouldn't be a whole lot of evolution within that genre.. no?

Anyone can move it, but only Engineers can repair it (get it moving again) after it's been disabled.

Also, enemies cannot move it backwards, like in TF2.

And your point is?

Was that directed towards me? :confused:

If it was, then I'm just saying that copying certain elements of other games isn't a bad thing, it just gives us better games in the end

Can anyone repair the crane? Or plant the HE charge? What have I missed now, really? Last I recall people had to use certain classes to do the objectives (the real ones)

There are still class-specific objectives, they're just saying that in this case the bot will move just as long as there is someone on your team close to it

Certain classes do need perform certain objectives, but not all. There are core objectives that anyone can do. For instance, anyone can escort, but only a certain class can get it moving once it's been damaged (Medic for NPC's, Engineers for vehicles) Also, anyone can do retrial missions, like "bring the documents to location X."

Borrowing, adapting, innovating etc the ideas of others is a great thing, no point in reinventing the wheel, just thought that was so obvious it wasn't worth mentioning

Acutally in Tf2 the enemy can't push it back... It moves back on its own after 30-60 seconds if no attacking team members are around it, and I never said a Payload mission was a nad idea.. I acutally like those kind of missions

yeahhh, i suppose that is quite obvious.. self-facepalm :facepalm:

Yes, the enemy is pushing it back - by denying the attacking team access to it.

i agree with gosty here tons of online games have escorts it's becoming the new CTF not all old fps games had it but now you don't see a single one without it...cept Brink...and Mirrors Edge...i think Gears of War has a CTF but still point is lots of games have escorts.

and yes all classes can escort it, he was a Soldier in the beginning but when he checked his wheel it said he could escort, if he had to be engineer it would say so like it did with his other missions.