There were a lot of daedras in Morrowind because that is the place of worship for many Daedra Lords openly before the Tribunal came about and placing red taping to prevent more lower daedras from coming in. The one that are there roaming in the ruins are probably the old ones that was there in the past. As compose to Skyrim, which is more Divine sided and isn't litter with daedra worshiping.

Daedra Lords tend to think within their sphere for their self interest need. Meridia, being the sphere of Light and energies of living things, would consider any undead an abomination for perverting Mundus with their rotting bone and flesh, thus want them gone.

Remember that Daedra Lords are special cases for being the most powerful of daedras; unless they are banish from Mundus like Azura or Dagon, some Daedra Lords can still go in Mundus for whatever they want like Sanguine or Hermaeus Mora shown in Skyrim.

In addition, Daedric artifacts are the prince.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/darkest-darkness explains it's possible to summon Daedra permanently. Morrowind was a land of Daedra worshippers so obviously that got done more.

To open a gate to Oblivion, the mechanic must communicate directly, by spell or enchantment, with the Daedra Lord who inscribed the sigil stone in question. The Daedra Lord and the mechanic jointly invoke the conjurational charter [2], and the mechanic activates the charged sigil stone, which is immediately transported through the liminal barrier to the spot where its sigil was inscribed, thus opening a temporary portal between Mundus and Oblivion. This portal may only remain open for a brief period of time, depending on the strength of the liminal barrier at the chosen spots, several minutes being the longest ever reported, so the usefulness of such a gate is quite limited. --- http://www.imperial-library.info/content/liminal-bridges

I would presume this is how the more permanent summoning is done. Summoner and prince barter on the price. A gate is opened, a Daedra steps through before the gate is closed again.


Not all. Some are merely appropriated.

Yes yes....but let's think like Meridia:
If Dagon enchant some artifacts/weapons or whatever relics with a bit of his essence or with the essence of his dremora servant's and give it to mortals.He could with time,probaly manifest himself/his soldiers in tamriel and begain a massive Invasion again.

Meridia and Dagon have different set. Meridia isn't the likeness of invading Mundus because that place yield little benefit for her, but yet is willing to have champion under her name to smite the undead because they go against her sphere.

Dagon, on the other hand, is destined to destroy Mundus because it is in his nature in the sphere for destruction and change. By destroying Mundus, he can change back to his normal self, which is rumor to be Magnus.

Or Lorkhan.

Dagon is Lorkhan is Akatosh.

Well, was basing off from the http://www.imperial-library.info/content/fight-one-eating-birth-dagon with Leaper Demon King as Magnus, Greedy Man as Lorkhan and Alduin as Akatosh/Alduin. Seeing that we saw Lorkhan's Heart in Morrowind and him being Sithis shown without a heart in his chest, I can assume that Dagon is Magnus.

No. Dagon is not Lorkhan.

Nor is Lorkhan Akatosh, rather they are like different sides of the same coin.


I'm not saying you are incorrect, but your reasoning is a little shoddy. What do the statue of Sithis and Lorkhans heart have to do with identifying the Leaper Demon as Magnus?

Well the story said along that there are three important figures in the story, inwhich one part is that Alduin curse the Leaper Demon King to become Dagon. If the Leaper Demon King is Lorkhan, then the heart would have to be Dagon's heart when we went to the Akulakhan chamber. The Greedy Man was also condemn to the Void, which practically go hand to hand with the role Sithis. I am just saying Magnus is Leaper Demon King because the role of the Greedy Man has already been filled nicely as Lorkhan with these to item in mind.

That works if you assume or know before hand that only Magnus, Lorkhan and Alduin are involved in the story. Without this assumption the Leaper Demon could be anybody. For example simply Mehrunes Dagon before he was eaten.

That true; knowing thing before hand is need and without that, we could assume that the Leaper Demon King could be anyone.

But that has never been given. Some one did anolyze the story once and came to that conclusion though. So you should at least be able to reproduce the general line of reasoning and know it's value or lack thereof before you claim that the Leaper-Demon was Magnus.

Here is http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1091564-noticed-something-about-destruction-magic-icons-in-oblivion/page__p__15927192__hl__Mehrunes%20Dagon%20Magnus%20Leaper__fromsearch__1&#entry15927192.

Lorkhan is Akatosh in the sense that electromagnetism and gravity are both expressions of the way the universe behaves.
They are both translations of how a fundamental force affects the universe, but expressed via a different gradient.
Simpler put, they are both colours, wavelengths of energy that our eye translates into different shades, but that have the same source.

But, like blue is not green, Akatosh is not Lorkhan, primarily because humans make a distinction in order to better understand their universe.

And because the distinction is what gives them value. This is the true meaning of Sithis, to break the totality of the void into meaningful shapes. So what if Auri-El's mind snapped into three pieces from his perch from eternity (Alduin/Akatosh, Lorkhan/Shor, and Magnus/Dagon)? It's better this way......

I read through most of this, but I must ask:After the Oblivion Crisis, can Princes still do some random stuff, like making it rain dogs on fire?

Right,but they're both light, using your anology.

Lorkahn/Akatosh/Dagon and possibly other entities are all facets of the same base entity that created Mundus, or didn't. But really we're only talking about one entity here.

This entity could be said to have multiple personalities though, and that's what we see as manifested as Akatosh, Lorkhan, and Mehrunes Dagon (And other deities/beings as well, such as Alduin, which is another facet of Akatosh. So even one of the personalities has multiple personalities, if you want to look at it that way.)

I just realized, shrines seem to be like embassies in the real world. If I build an embassy to say, Australia on Mount Rushmore, the embassy grounds belong to Australia, no longer the USA. So with Daedra, they can stick around the shrines which would probably explain the Dagon thing. THey need to protect their shrines somehow, you know!

They hate mortals and kill those who build shrines for them...and still protect them,what a way of being "thankfull"...
Mind Blow....

Correction, they USE mortals to further their own ambitions, then discard them when they're no longer useful.

Same can be aplied to Sheogorath at Shivering Isles?

Daedra can't create, so they manipulate mortals who can. Does that count as creation?

Like Clu in Tron Legacy?i don't think so...What about the Dremoras from Mehrunes?Aren't they soul and body Forged by him?Isn't the same as create life?Correct?

I've never seen either Tron. The Daedra can't create outside their realms, which is to say that they can't create outside themselves. They live an infinite existence with nothing all that fun to do.

This is why they need an Xbox/pc/ps3.To stop disturbing mortals for being bored.

No, they're not created by Mehrunes Dagon, or by anyone else. Daedra are immortal. At some point aeons past, the Dremora came into the service of Mehrunes Dagon. In Shivering Isles, the Golden Saints and Dark Seducers tell us that, aeons past, they pledged themselves to the service of Sheogorath, and are zealously loyal to him, but their existence is nevertheless independent of him.

There's some information in http://www.imperial-library.info/content/spirit-daedra and http://www.imperial-library.info/content/varieties-daedra.