Oh and to the OP, the only arrogant self righteous person I see on this site is you, you dare to think you can call out anyone else for their view and take the moral highground...lmao

Irony is funny

Explain how im being self righteous. Amuse we with your misunderstanding.
, your nothing but a sarky arsehole who does nothing for this community except go on and criticise peoples gameplay videos.

Im telling people to be patient, why would you get offended by my statement regarding arrogant people considering it was general and not referring to anyone specific unless you are of course the small group im referring to.

And I do dare, what can you do about it? .......lmao?

LMFAO oh dear, little child is feeling all aggressive he needs to start throwing names to insult people, such abusive posting only makes you look foolish and pathetic, so good job there.....you see I could do the same and come up with some verbal put downs in the same style you are, but to be honest..you arent really worth the effot

In fact, you began this very thread insulting people who are venting their fustration at the failures of Crytek, both in the game and their support for the game and the 360 community behind it.

See, you telling people to be patient is redundant. You are sadly, nothing to do with crytek....probably someone who took part in the game with developers and because of that think you are closer to them then anyone else....quite sad really.

You are not a side administrator, so you cant tell people what or how to post. You are not affiliated with Crytek, so anything you have to say about what they do, how they do it, who says what in private conversations doesnt mean jack to anyone else

The game is broken in many ways, has an abundance of issues that need correcting and weeks are going by with little information, acknowledgement or release information about how they plan to fix them or when they will. Maybe they should start responding to the community here, instead of hiding in the shadows like they are

If the Crying Crytek staff dont like coming into work and seeing such negative feedback, then they should have done the development job correct in the first place, should get off their backsides and fix the problems they left open in the Gold release version of the game and man up and take these criticisms from the people they let down and failed face on. I dont happen to like firing this game up to find all the problems it has making me have to take the game out because its so annoying.

You are a lesson in irony and you are truly amusing, so bring it on my little friend..cant wait to hear the next cleverly worded put down that seeps out your head

Krakken responded to my other reply which was basicly identical. Replying to it here to keep things in the same thread.
Its so very easy to sling around the fanboy insult isnt it?

You have no clue what your talking about pal so dont jump to conclusions and yes my day job is managing babies like you......frig I wouldnt accept any amount of money for this.

I explained to you how to contructively do something about this game rather than monaing and biching and complaining about it, it appears your so caught up in your negativity to do anything contructive about it.

YES im pissed off about the bugs aswell but its happened and we cant reverse time and id rather deal with the problems we have rather than whining about them. I explained how to do that and if retaining a positive outlook instead of a negative one makes me a fanboy well il go out and tattoo it on my arse just to make you happy.

There are two types of people in this world, those that talk about it and those that do something about it, which are you?

Wow.
So you replied to my post by getting defensive about being a fanboy. You then ignored everything I said and resorting to calling me names. You then just re-iterated your dis-like for people complaining about bugs(which is in no way what I was doing.) Then you went on a little rant of your own that was so far off from anything I said it's unbelievable. Every post I have made has been a "lack of communication." Not a "omg this game is broken fix the bugs."

Until now, I had a little respect for you but your communication skills are so poor that you may as well work for Crytek.

Until now, I had a little respect for you but your communication skills are so poor that you may as well work for Crytek.

I think he is trying OH SO HARD to make that happen lol

Krakken responded to my other reply which was basicly identical. Replying to it here to keep things in the same thread.
Its so very easy to sling around the fanboy insult isnt it?

You have no clue what your talking about pal so dont jump to conclusions and yes my day job is managing babies like you......frig I wouldnt accept any amount of money for this.

I explained to you how to contructively do something about this game rather than monaing and biching and complaining about it, it appears your so caught up in your negativity to do anything contructive about it.

YES im pissed off about the bugs aswell but its happened and we cant reverse time and id rather deal with the problems we have rather than whining about them. I explained how to do that and if retaining a positive outlook instead of a negative one makes me a fanboy well il go out and tattoo it on my arse just to make you happy.

There are two types of people in this world, those that talk about it and those that do something about it, which are you?

Wow.
So you replied to my post by getting defensive about being a fanboy. You then ignored everything I said and resorting to calling me names. You then just re-iterated your dis-like for people complaining about bugs(which is in no way what I was doing.) Then you went on a little rant of your own that was so far off from anything I said it's unbelievable. Every post I have made has been a "lack of communication." Not a "omg this game is broken fix the bugs."

Until now, I had a little respect for you but your communication skills are so poor that you may as well work for Crytek.

Its a good job I dont need the respect of people of an internet forum.

But I dont mean that in any disrespect, I ignored all of what you said because you ignored most of what I said. Thats only fair and stating that im a fanboy? really? I resent the fact that there is glitches what can you not understand about the fact that id rather DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

id rather DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

by telling other people to shut up and leave crytek alone?

Its a good job I dont need the respect of people of an internet forum.

But I dont mean that in any disrespect, I ignored all of what you said because you ignored most of what I said. Thats only fair and stating that im a fanboy? really? I resent the fact that there is glitches what can you not understand about the fact that id rather DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

My entire post referenced your OP about how Crytek is too busy to let us know what is going on, moderators can't talk due to NDA and how people should stop biching about them not letting us know what's going on.

I feel as if my post was well written, on topic, and free of insults. Except for the fanboy comment I guess, but I don't see that as much of an insult. I'm a fanboy of certain things too, which I wouldn't deny if called out on them. The reason I said you were a fanboy however, is because you were making excuses and trying to justify Crytek's horrible customer relations with terrible excuses like "they're too busy fixing stuff" and moderators are under NDA.

Those were the points I was referencing. Straight from your OP. You however, ignored my response to your topic and went off about people complaining about bugs once again even tho I never even mentioned it. As if some how they are personally offending you. This is fanboy mentality at it's finest.

KRAKKEN, there's nothing we can say that will stop the self-righteous whining. Every game forum has about 10-20 people that post non stop about the same things over and over, and usually the complaints are about how they aren't being paid enough attention, not about constructively documenting the problems they are having in a productive manner. You guys think Halo:Reach has less problems than C2 well you couldn't tell from the identical tripe you read on bungie.net. Trust me, they've been crying for a patch since release and even when things get done the complaints move on to some other quibble.

KRAKKEN, there's nothing we can say that will stop the self-righteous whining. Every game forum has about 10-20 people that post non stop about the same things over and over, and usually the complaints are about how they aren't being paid enough attention, not about constructively documenting the problems they are having in a productive manner. You guys think Halo:Reach has less problems than C2 well you couldn't tell from the identical tripe you read on bungie.net. Trust me, they've been crying for a patch since release and even when things get done the complaints move on to some other quibble.

and you can't blame bungie, know why?
because they post a WEEKLY update on their page.

Given how lauded Crytek is by the PC master race I was just expecting much better execution then what we have.

Taking into account that this IS their first console game, the size of the MP team, how long they had, and the fact that they built it for 3 platforms simultaneously, I'm impressed. I just wished they fully understood what all that is entailed with community support. With the lack of info shared to us they clearly don't understand how it works.


Overall, I'd say a metacritic average rating of 85 is fair. Too many bugs in MP AND SP, unreliable netcode, and some of the poorest community management keep it from being a 9 or higher

This term, Self Righteous Whining.......how pathetic, people have a right to complain about problems with a game that appears to have no timeframe or structure in place to find a resolution to those problems.

because it seems no one of any real importance at Crytek is paying attention, people will repeat their problems, shouting more angrily and louder each and every day there dont get a real reply from Crytek

To be constructive is posting the problem they are having....cant do anymore then that, what Crytek can do to be constructive is give real answers from the real support team..not relying on Website Admins to take the brunt of the negativity who themselves are totally powerless to offer real help or news

So, if you are fed up with negative reality checks for Crytek, keep in mind the fustration of those who feel they are not being heard.....no information about a realistic patch for the online issues has yet to be even announced or acknowledged by Crytek....coming up to a month after release...still no news about a patch in any form, or even what issues are being looked at...meanwhile people have problems with their game, and Crytek are failing in their duty to give real support for their product

People can talk about what they "may or may not" be doing behind the scenes, or what it takes to create a patch and all the rest of the junk that goes into their jobs...I dont care, I want a patch, I want my game fixed so its not a mess online, others feel the same, if a patch is not here or announced by the 22nd April, my copy is going bye bye, and I wont be looking back

KRAKKEN, there's nothing we can say that will stop the self-righteous whining. Every game forum has about 10-20 people that post non stop about the same things over and over, and usually the complaints are about how they aren't being paid enough attention, not about constructively documenting the problems they are having in a productive manner. You guys think Halo:Reach has less problems than C2 well you couldn't tell from the identical tripe you read on bungie.net. Trust me, they've been crying for a patch since release and even when things get done the complaints move on to some other quibble.

and you can't blame bungie, know why?
because they post a WEEKLY update on their page.

I read the weekly update every week and they never ever talk about patching the game or refer to the forum's barrage of complainers. My point is that despite bungie having a very smooth matchmaking experience and a weekly update even that isn't enough to stop the whining about how they "aren't communicating enough with meeeee" complaints.

Its a good job I dont need the respect of people of an internet forum.

But I dont mean that in any disrespect, I ignored all of what you said because you ignored most of what I said. Thats only fair and stating that im a fanboy? really? I resent the fact that there is glitches what can you not understand about the fact that id rather DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

My entire post referenced your OP about how Crytek is too busy to let us know what is going on, moderators can't talk due to NDA and how people should stop biching about them not letting us know what's going on.

I feel as if my post was well written, on topic, and free of insults. Except for the fanboy comment I guess, but I don't see that as much of an insult. I'm a fanboy of certain things too, which I wouldn't deny if called out on them. The reason I said you were a fanboy however, is because you were making excuses and trying to justify Crytek's horrible customer relations with terrible excuses like "they're too busy fixing stuff" and moderators are under NDA.

Those were the points I was referencing. Straight from your OP. You however, ignored my response to your topic and went off about people complaining about bugs once again even tho I never even mentioned it. As if some how they are personally offending you. This is fanboy mentality at it's finest.

Im offering explanations as to why we are NOT getting information.

And tell me what course of action should be taken? so we should create thread after thread about the same thing and act in a negative light? rather than comming together as a community and doing more good than harm.

Thats the problem with the human race as a collective whole and people in general, its much easier to complain about something rather than do something about it. Sorry but you have the support of Cockney Charmer who is well known as the forums biggest asshole.

The simple fact is the game is bugged to ****, what can we do about it? what is complaining endlessly on multiple duplicate clone forums going to realistically do?

what should we take as a course of action then?

People can talk about what they "may or may not" be doing behind the scenes, or what it takes to create a patch and all the rest of the junk that goes into their jobs...I dont care, I want a patch, I want my game fixed so its not a mess online, others feel the same, if a patch is not here or announced by the 22nd April, my copy is going bye bye, and I wont be looking back

I want this, I want that, me me me. What do they have to do? CC you every internal development email? You just point out that you have no respect for the development process, the hard work it takes and the complexities of changing game code and yet you want them to provide you with detailed progress reports just so you won't flip your lid on a forum? The hyperbolic rants about them not communicating with you isn't helping your cause. I love the little threat at the end as if that's going to spur them to release the patch on your deadline. Like "oh noes Cockney Charmer is going to sell his copy of crysis quick lets get this patch out or were done" lol like seriously how is that not self-righteous.

Why the fμck would a moderator be under an NDA? That's asinine.

By NOT saying anything definitive about what's being fixed or worked on hold's Crytek accountable for nothing. If they told us what they were working on and were unable to fix it there would probably be far more backlash then what there is now.

Hell, I'm not even certain they can fix it given their inability to commit to informing us as to WTF is going on and the debacle that the last title update was. Look at the patch notes for the most recent title update. NONE of the issues addressed in the notes were fixed. It really doesn't bode well for the community.

I'm desperately trying to remain optimistic in spite of Cryteks implied disinterest in me.

lmao....its not a threat, I am very aware that one person or a thousand person returning this game means nothing, game was purchased, crytek and EA have made their money, I for one didnt pay for the game so I lose out on well....nothing lol

See, what I want, is the what everybody wants.....so the me, me, me argument still works, I get what I want everyone gets what they want, everybody wins....yay me, yay everyone!!!!

Other developers acknowledge what issues they are looking to fix, other developers post updates to how they are getting on...Crytek decide to do........nothing. Acknowledge nothing, share nothing. So you see, whilst being CC on every internal email would indeed be an entertaining and interesting look into the inner working of Crytek, your OTT example in a fail attempt to belittle my opinion doesnt really work my friend, but its a nice try though...appreciate the effort you put into typing it out.

Remember, the problems with the game should never have been in there....the connections errors all being a result of a lack of a working region filter for multination connections over XBL regions is a direct problem from their development and choice to use P2P, other games use P2P and incorporate a region filter to minimise such issues....Crytek again chose not to do this, and are now paying the price.I have sympathy for the extra work they have to put in post release to make the game work, it should have from release day.

But thank you for your input, enjoy the rest of your day

Im offering explanations as to why we are NOT getting information.

And tell me what course of action should be taken? so we should create thread after thread about the same thing and act in a negative light? rather than comming together as a community and doing more good than harm.

Thats the problem with the human race as a collective whole and people in general, its much easier to complain about something rather than do something about it. Sorry but you have the support of Cockney Charmer who is well known as the forums biggest asshole.

The simple fact is the game is bugged to ****, what can we do about it? what is complaining endlessly on multiple duplicate clone forums going to realistically do?

what should we take as a course of action then?

The answer to this is exactly what I posted in my first reply that you completely ignored... Lets see if you do it again. The game being bugged to **** isn't the underlying problem. It's just what is causing people to come to the forum with negative attitudes. The real problem is the lack of communication from Crytek. We have recieved NOTHING.

They wouldn't have to reply to any of the threads if they simply put a thread at the top of the forum with useful information letting us know what's going on and when to expect a fix. Updating a thread every couple days to ensure their customers that they are actually doing something is not difficult and isn't too much to ask. This is just.... common sense to every other game developer. Want to get rid of all the duplicate threads biching about no patch information? Well then make a thread about it and keep it updated and informed. Easy.

Simply writing an email to Cry-Adam saying "tell them this" would put a stop to the majority of it. I certainly wouldn't be posting about it anymore... I'd probably never read another thread, I'd just check the sticky once a day. We're talking about five minutes worth of communication to the hundreds of thousands of people that bought this game. It's not a lot to ask. It's EXPECTED from every other company in the world.

Simple communication is the answer and telling people to be quite and wait patiently is just absurd. If i bought a table that didn't fit together properly and was missing pieces.... I could take it back to the retailer and get a new one or talk to the manufacturer and get the pieces I was missing. Simple communication and community relations is all we need. Real simple.

Why the fμck would a moderator be under an NDA? That's asinine.

By NOT saying anything definitive about what's being fixed or worked on hold's Crytek accountable for nothing. If they told us what they were working on and were unable to fix it there would probably be far more backlash then what there is now.

Hell, I'm not even certain they can fix it given their inability to commit to informing us as to WTF is going on and the debacle that the last title update was. Look at the patch notes for the most recent title update. NONE of the issues addressed in the notes were fixed. It really doesn't bode well for the community.

I'm desperately trying to remain optimistic in spite of Cryteks implied disinterest in me.

I think to say none of the issues were addressed is an exaggeration because I have noticed a smoother experience since the patch. Sure there are still problems but I would hazard a guess that the game was pushed out the door by EA and I imagine if Crytek had more time they would have used it. So any patching they are working on is probably best not to be rushed as well. There's a lot of play testing and QA they need to do as well as Microsoft's protocols so I would rather wait another few weeks if that's what it takes. Otherwise I've been enjoying the game in it's present state and any improvements will be icing on the cake imo.

crytek will just say they fix one thing and another breaks, as in the last patch. this cycle will never end which is mainly why they went ahead and released a majorly bugged game using the line that the games engine is complex(fix something, something else fails). splendid.

Why the fμck would a moderator be under an NDA? That's asinine.

By NOT saying anything definitive about what's being fixed or worked on hold's Crytek accountable for nothing. If they told us what they were working on and were unable to fix it there would probably be far more backlash then what there is now.

Hell, I'm not even certain they can fix it given their inability to commit to informing us as to WTF is going on and the debacle that the last title update was. Look at the patch notes for the most recent title update. NONE of the issues addressed in the notes were fixed. It really doesn't bode well for the community.

I'm desperately trying to remain optimistic in spite of Cryteks implied disinterest in me.

I think to say none of the issues were addressed is an exaggeration because I have noticed a smoother experience since the patch. Sure there are still problems but I would hazard a guess that the game was pushed out the door by EA and I imagine if Crytek had more time they would have used it. So any patching they are working on is probably best not to be rushed as well. There's a lot of play testing and QA they need to do as well as Microsoft's protocols so I would rather wait another few weeks if that's what it takes. Otherwise I've been enjoying the game in it's present state and any improvements will be icing on the cake imo.

Name me one item in the patch notes that's actually an improvement?

Common sense is something lacking when people pick a crusade to take the moral high ground on, you can call them fan boys/svck ups or just bell ends...either way, the game having issues and Crytek inability to correct their failings in a timely manners gives every unhappy gamer of Crysis 2 the right to voice their concerns anyway they deem fit.

They have had more then enough time to offer a realistic thread with information about what they are doing, and to start releasing fixes for the game, even if its just to say they have put a fix into MS for certification...but nothing.

Wait and see what happens if a Patch is ever released or real time information is posted here, by the support team......you will see grattitude and a reduction in as many "its broken you svck Crytek" threads.

I find it rude that a company like Crytek would think it acceptable to release their 'triple A title' in the state that it currently is.

I have no sympathy for any of the developers because I feel cheated out of ￡40. Unlike some, losing ￡40 isn't on my to-do list.

It's fine if you enjoy the game in its current build. Still, I assume that you're one of the fans who blasted on about this game before its premature release; only now you've decided to stick to your guns (unlike the fu*king broken pistol silencer) and continue on your narrow-minded quest to enjoy this game. That's okay too, but I don't settle for second best. Ever.

So, stop making these pointless biching and moaning threads about others who wish to make their anger heard on a PUBLIC FORUM.

I have no hope for a working patch, and think my copy of Crysis 2 would look far better in the pre-owned bargain bin of my local GAME, where it belongs.

Im offering explanations as to why we are NOT getting information.

And tell me what course of action should be taken? so we should create thread after thread about the same thing and act in a negative light? rather than comming together as a community and doing more good than harm.

Thats the problem with the human race as a collective whole and people in general, its much easier to complain about something rather than do something about it. Sorry but you have the support of Cockney Charmer who is well known as the forums biggest asshole.

The simple fact is the game is bugged to ****, what can we do about it? what is complaining endlessly on multiple duplicate clone forums going to realistically do?

what should we take as a course of action then?

The answer to this is exactly what I posted in my first reply that you completely ignored... Lets see if you do it again. The game being bugged to **** isn't the underlying problem. It's just what is causing people to come to the forum with negative attitudes. The real problem is the lack of communication from Crytek. We have recieved NOTHING.

They wouldn't have to reply to any of the threads if they simply put a thread at the top of the forum with useful information letting us know what's going on and when to expect a fix. Updating a thread every couple days to ensure their customers that they are actually doing something is not difficult and isn't too much to ask. This is just.... common sense to every other game developer. Want to get rid of all the duplicate threads biching about no patch information? Well then make a thread about it and keep it updated and informed. Easy.

Simply writing an email to Cry-Adam saying "tell them this" would put a stop to the majority of it. I certainly wouldn't be posting about it anymore... I'd probably never read another thread, I'd just check the sticky once a day. We're talking about five minutes worth of communication to the hundreds of thousands of people that bought this game. It's not a lot to ask. It's EXPECTED from every other company in the world.

Simple communication is the answer and telling people to be quite and wait patiently is just absurd. If i bought a table that didn't fit together properly and was missing pieces.... I could take it back to the retailer and get a new one or talk to the manufacturer and get the pieces I was missing. Simple communication and community relations is all we need. Real simple.


Unfortunetely a table is nowhere near as complicated as a video game with thousands of lines of code so thats a poor anaolgy.

biching and moaning threads about others who wish to make their anger heard on a PUBLIC FORUM.

I have no hope for a working patch, and think my copy of Crysis 2 would look far better in the pre-owned bargain bin of my local GAME, where it belongs.

just so you know, Game are offering ￡35 trade in against Mortal Kombat next week making MK a ￡5....food for thought

Wake up and listen to reason, are you for real? I just died trying to ledge grab so tell me why my comment shouldn't be negative. A game as big as this shouldn't have been put on sale when its so obviously flawed and full of bugs. you wouldn't buy a car and then take it to the dealers every week or two to get the problems fixed that keep popping up because the makers HAVEN'T done there job properly. Before i get the "its hard to make a game etc" comments, i'm not debating the difficulty of making the game i'm questioning the ability to make a FULLY WORKING game? Also if Crytek are happy to rake in the profits they should give us the end user a complete fully working game upon release and not a polished turd.

Unfortunetely a table is nowhere near as complicated as a video game with thousands of lines of code so thats a poor anaolgy.


What the ****? This is the last response you get from me with your ridiculous arguments. I am not in any way complaining about how this game is broken or how a table is more or less complicated than a video game.

I am stating that customer relations is as important as the product itself and that Crytek can solve all of the issues you are crying about in your OP by just talking to it's community and informing them of what is going on.

I enjoy well thought out debates and arguments via forums, chat or real conversations. You however can not seem to have one intelligent thought or argument. You merely throw out nonsensical statements that have no meaning what so ever. You should cease to exist.