Walkthrough for Intergration: The Stranded Light? : IV

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:21 am

Hey all, I come to you, for once, not with technical problems but with real gameplay problems!

I'm really digging Intergration: The Stranded Light but I HATE the fact that the author did not include a walkthrough aside from basic hints. I know there is the video walkthrough on youtube by JCPhoenix and I was able to make a lot of progress using the videos but I'm stuck in the mod right now after just finishing the Tome Of Laughter quest. Basically, I'm not sure what to do next and the mod refuses to tell me.

I understand why the mod has no walkthrough and how it was a conscious design decision on part of the author and I do not fault them for that. However, if there exists a detailed (preferred text) walkthrough for Intergration then that would be great. Otherwise, I'm at a dead end and rapidly losing my will to keep trying to force events to happen.

Sorry if this sounds whiny. I'm just frustrated at the fact that so many mods have blatant quest markers and excessive hand holding and then mods like Intergration basically slap your hand away and run off without you. There has to be a middle ground!

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:04 pm

Been meaning to do a text walkthrough, but kept putting it off. Ishould ne able to do it in a few days.
More later *is at work*

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:50 pm

Heh, I'll hold you to that

btw, thanks for the video series either way! It did help a lot.

» Fri May 04, 2012 3:35 am

+1 for a text walkthrough.

I do my damnedest to avoid using them, but sure appreciate having one when my frustration level gets to a certain point. And I can't help but think a walkthrough would bring more attention to this excellent questing experience.

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:55 pm

but I'm stuck in the mod right now after just finishing the Tome Of Laughter quest. Basically, I'm not sure what to do next and the mod refuses to tell me.

and then mods like Intergration basically slap your hand away and run off without you. There has to be a middle ground!

Probably just need more fame. This is explained in the spoiler file, and admittedly very vaguely explained by Tesserayiel. You could also do more Side quests which give you internal fame bonuses. It should be possible to complete the mod with never gaining any fame outside of the mod, if you do every available side quest, and complete them in the best manner. Also have a look around Inns in the Shivering Isles, there should be an advertisemant for a place where there's now a new quest.

The purpose of the fame requirements was basically to moderate progress, and prevent the common "5 second guild master" syndrome that recent Elder Scrolls suffer from, and the mod was never really meant to be a primary focus or a speed run; more of just an immersive addition to the world. Something where you slowly discover new quests, and figure out ways to complete its quests while doing something completely different.

Personally "run off without you" is almost the exact words I'd use to describe those blatant quest marker mods, because they are constantly forcing your forward and pretty much begging you: "Play me! Play me!" You know, it just creates this sad false sense of urgency, and accomplishment that in reality doesn't actually exist, because you're just being forced down a rail.
Integration's more like: "Yeah, go have fun, I'll still be here whenever you're ready."
I must admit however that I am guilty of revolving entire playthroughs around just primarily doing the Integration's quests.

In any case solving quests and finding quests was one of the main reasons for beta testing, and unfortunately I was about the only consistent tester and I would usually get told where the quests were and howto start them so that I could test them. So naturally I kind of failed at making sure quests were easy to find, but there are vague hints present all over in the form of courier articles, location hints, and intersecting quest lines.

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:02 pm

Hm, I did finish the MQ, all the DLC (including Knights) and the SI MQ. How high are the fame requirements? I mean if that's all that is the problem, I can just go do other things then no problem

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:38 am

I cannot for the life of me fine Erralius in the Anvil docks.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:48 pm

replied to these in official topic

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:16 am

Any word on that text walkthrough? I'm making some good progress but I'd like to know if I'm making the right decisions with Tesh

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:13 am

Any word on that text walkthrough? I'm making some good progress but I'd like to know if I'm making the right decisions with Tesh :tongue:

I was wavering between text or formatted boxes. I decided on a narrative text that just had the quest name in big letters, and solutions bolded. So far I have something for the first two quests.

For Teshekru you just have to combine interest choices (like asking her questions when you get a dialogue tree), and flattery choices. If you just svck up to her, or just act interested, but never say nice things I think it might be possible to lock yourself out of the romance. unlikely though, because I think you need like 5 interest and 5 flattery choices, and there's like 20-30 dialogues with the dialogue trees in the beginning. After that you mostly just visit her once a day and try to catch her doing something unique so you can ask her about it, or comment about it. Only way to screw up the romance there is if you decide to stop it when she wants to proceed to the next stages, if you purposely keep doing things to piss her off, or free a certain other Daedra Seducer and let her live with you.

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:53 pm

Hrm, this is wierd. Imprisonment II won't start despite me having finished both prerequisites (Late Letter and Go North) and having 125 fame. Should I just go screw around with other mods until it fixes itself?

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:17 pm

Hrm, this is wierd. Imprisonment II won't start despite me having finished both prerequisites (Late Letter and Go North) and having 125 fame. Should I just go screw around with other mods until it fixes itself?

Imprisonment I? have you been to the Bruma dungeon yet?

It is kind of confusing because there is one Integration quest that actually does start with "II", but that's because it's a continuation of a vanilla SI quest.

» Thu May 03, 2012 5:57 pm

Yeah, I finished Imprisonment I. also Mortals and Daedra won't trigger either. I can't tell if I'm being impatient or auctally having problems because the "interview a whole buncha races" quest just started too.

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:07 pm

Yeah, I finished Imprisonment I. also Mortals and Daedra won't trigger either. I can't tell if I'm being impatient or auctally having problems because the "interview a whole buncha races" quest just started too.

You could try getting 5 more fame and coming back, seeing as how that's the difference between taxonomy, and imprisonment II
check here:
http://uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fame

or you could also do some more Integration Side Quests.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:32 pm

I was wavering between text or formatted boxes. I decided on a narrative text that just had the quest name in big letters, and solutions bolded. So far I have something for the first two quests.

Have you thought about doing HTML? I prefer it because I can blank out spoilers and add hyperlinks (which would be a huge help, since all the quests are so intertwined) and nice formatting with little effort. If you want, I can convert it for you when you're done.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:30 am

Have you thought about doing HTML? I prefer it because I can blank out spoilers and add hyperlinks (which would be a huge help, since all the quests are so intertwined) and nice formatting with little effort. If you want, I can convert it for you when you're done.

I might take you up on that.

Progress is very slow, I don't have much time these days, and so far I I only have like 3.5 quests listed. you can see the current results http://www.gamefront.com/files/21529134/INTEGRATION+walky.docx. It's a Microsoft word 2007 document, I'll probably change that when I complete it, I've also added color coding of where links could be placed since the offer was made. I can probably finish it, When will just depend on the amount of motivation and time I can get.

If anyone wants to help by Stating the quest name and then listing the solutions you know of I could probably add in any missed ones pretty easily, and it'll keep it from feeling as monotonous, so yeah.

Share your Integration experience, and the fun way you solved some quests :whistling:

My current format for anyone interested in helping:

Lost Child
Talk to Tesser(ayiel) after gaining 5 fame after joining the guild, or doing a number of Integration quests. She will tell you about a child that disappeared from Bravil, and give you a number of Dungeons that he may have went to. Time for some dungeon crawling!- Not! Go to Bravil and ask around about the child. If you have a high infamy the inn keeper in Bravil will lie, but you can still get it out of him with the right skills. Or you could talk to Kenerial if she is by the castle (link to Severing the link) your destination is the Shivering Isles! Go in to the Fringe Inn and talk to the Inn Keeper. Contemplate killing her at this time (if it makes you feel better she dies at the end of SI’s Main quest anyway) now it’s time to meet the child. Search the inn
Before talking to him use any charm spells/effects you have on him.Now talk to him, but DO NOT choose every dialogue option You are trying to convince him and using arguments that are blatantly false and you know nothing about won’t work. Here are the options and their checks:
No others of your kind= Dredhwen(inn keeper here) is dead
Place is dangerous= have completed a better mouse trap, and seen Knights of Order
Nothing new to learn= met Sheogorath
Conjuration will be downfall = 25 to 49 conjuration. 50+ conjuration if you have high fame. OR You are a Daedra race/have read 65 books. OR you have 75 intelligence.
Family misses you: Truth is a 70 disposition check. Lie is 50 speech craft and a certain Bosmer in Anvil must be alive.
Now finish. You need to select at least about 3 choices in order to be able to finish, and most of them must be successful in order to convince him to leave.
Now go back to Tesser and get your Wabba Summon spell if you succeeded.

I did things a bit differently for the 1st one, I'll probably end up formatting/bolding/listing in all sorts of different ways by the the end:

Oblivion Real Estate:
This quest has requirements. You can either save Martin at Kvatch, or kill a NPC Xivilai in the Ayleid ruin of Fanacasecul which is on the coast east of the Imperial City.
In any case after talking to Tesserayiel you will go to the Trade and Commerce building, and talk to the lady. If you’re a scary enough race the [race] solution is easy, also if you’re a bosmer, or a race that looks like a Wood elf/bosmer (Ohmes/hidden elf) you can show her the book a “dance in fire 3” to succeed. the other options require:
[Event] Having completed the Spies quest in the Main quest, but not having completed the main quest. [Mercantile] 50 skill to reduce the price. Or you can just pay the 250,000/50,000(when reduced)
If you can’t do any of those, you can also sneak into the Commerce office’s basemant and steal the deed from an open chest there. It is a small piece of paper on a book

I already noticed and corrected two mistakes just by posting it here.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:44 pm

Great so far!

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:00 pm

Bump so this dosen't get lost.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:59 am

Hm, this is alarming. I'm having a constant recurring CTD when I try to start In Memoria. I'm not sure why but here's my list of mods.

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

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Any ideas as to why this is happening? My only theory is that it might be because I'm using Light Of Dawn and it's a zero-weight quest item.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:17 am

Hm, this is alarming. I'm having a constant recurring CTD when I try to start In Memoria. I'm not sure why but here's my list of mods.

Active Mod Files:

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Any ideas as to why this is happening? My only theory is that it might be because I'm using Light Of Dawn and it's a zero-weight quest item.

Known issues and incompatibilities:
- for some extremely strange reason I never was able to replicate for an absolute minority of players the game crash when "In Memoria" is started. Usually rebuilding your Bashed Patch (if present) or take off enchanted clothing /armor prevents this crash.
- if you're updating from an earlier version and have either met Kanaane or solved the "Suthay Decree" quest, use this console command once: StartQuest IntegrationUpdate
- Open Cities has a compatibility patch available at it's download location.
- there are no conflicts with Better Cities anymore.
- there are no conflicts with FCOM or Unique Landscapes.
- if you don't fulfill the above mentioned requirements, your game will crash. Or use the no requirements version.
- some dialog responses from the player seems like a bit too shortened. Unfortunately they are; player responses can only be about 38 characters long, so no way for the player to give elaborate answers. Game limitation.
- Integration's greeting topic may take precedence over Matius' dialogue after saving Kvatch. Complete the Suthay Decree quest if this causes any issues with Kvatch rebuilding mods.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:32 pm

Haha, woops. I didn't see that, sorry :blush:

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:46 pm

Hm, I'm having a real problem with Mortals and Daedra. I'm trying to give Lesh the Order Cure but she keeps dismissing me when I try to talk to her with the generic "ugh im sick leave me alone" dialogue. I've tried reloading my save, going to the testing hall for three days, everything I can think of.

Any ideas?

Also, I failed the Match Maker and may have screwed up the Delivery Service quest (gave the letter to the wierd guy at the AU). I hope there's no reprecussions

Edit: Nevermind, it all of a sudden decided to work. Oblivion.

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:25 pm

What's the item id for Tesh's articles in the BHC? I dropped them all cos I didn't think I would need them ;_;

The load order number (letter?) is AA.

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:38 pm

What's the item id for Tesh's articles in the BHC? I dropped them all cos I didn't think I would need them ;_;

The load order number (letter?) is AA.

According to TES4Edit:

AA07124D for Stranded Light: Teshekru.

AA0A66CF for SL: Veteran Rescued!

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:43 am

Thanks!