To really see the SMART system shine at it's brightest, wall jumping is a necessity. Without it, the SMART system definitely seems shallow and lacking (not to mention making the Lights seem not worth it), but the whole problem is wall jumping on a 360 controller is impossible. To successfully wall jump you have to be able to tap the "jump" button and look from the wall you're jumping off of, and look to the wall you're jumping on to.

With "right stick" being look, and "A" button being jump, I found it utterly impossible to perform some of the jumps I've been seeing on YouTube. After some experiementing and practice, the best solution I've found is to remap the "jump" to "Left Bumper." This allows you to sprint, look, jump, slide, and shoot! simultaneously while never having to take your thumbs off the steering sticks.

In the end, as a Light Op, this has made me love being a Light Op sooo much more, performing these crazy wall hops and jumps...juking about and escaping fire, flanking, etc etc. And it most definitely brings out the best in the Light Body Type, and has opened up new routes and made traversing the maps much much faster...and more fun!

Hope this helps!

As a side note: I set my controller config to "Duty Calls" and then remapped my "Left Bumper" to jump.

Good post, and thanks

So just wondering, do you sprint before you jump or do you jump before you sprint? :mellow:

You sprint at the wall you want to jump off of...but you don't run like directly at it...at an angle...jump to the wall, and when you bump into it, tap jump again, and you will wall jump; whatever direction you want to jump off the wall, you have to look that way. If you want to jump off a wall onto another wall, or ledge, you have to look at it and tap jump...

If your timing is good, you can chain jump from wall to wall to wall...it's really sick. Almost like running on walls really, and can make traversing maps incredibly fast and fun.

Also, you can wall jump without sprinting, you just have to be closer to the wall when you jump at it.

After watching that video "Brinkgame" tweeted a few minutes ago, I decided I am playing all wrong. Gotta get this wall jumping dialed in and start flanking more.

Really can't overstate what a difference it makes...especially if you need to get somewhere, and get there fast...or get away from somewhere fast :woot:

Great post OP! Thanks for the info, I may finally give the light build a go. I've only ever used it in the parkour challenge.

Hang on...you have sprint/SMART mapped to...clicking in LS? And jump to LB? I mean, I can see the point of the jump remap, but how can you stand clicking in the stick every time you want to vault a wall?

I don't...I only click the stick if I want to sprint. I do all the other moves manually (ie. clicking jump or slide or what have you.)

If you click it once, you sprint, if you want to auto SMART, then you have to hold it down..but it's more fun to do manually. Besides, I used to play a lot of BOps, and sprint was holding down LS.

I haven't actually tried wall jumping with auto SMART, so I can't really say how it works out.

If you mean Black Ops, then no it isn't...but anyway...

Sorry, just trying to understand how, for example, you'd mantle a railing, run along a corridor, then vault over a box...if all of that is perfectly easy and possible without having to use SMART...then what's the point in SMART?

That's how I had my controller set up for BOps, as it is. I'm just used to it...that's my point.

I think you're confusing SMART and auto SMART. SMART, in and of itself, gives the player the ability to perform all of these moves within the game environment. You can perform these moves either manually, or not. By clicking and holding LS, you are in auto SMART mode, where your avatar will automatically perform the moves without you having to click jump or slide.

If you click and release LS, then you sprint, but if you want to vault a wall or jump over a box, or slide, all while sprinting, you'd have to manually tap jump or slide.

It's all the same thing, really, you can just choose to have your guy do it automatically, or manually.

Good grief. SD should have had this as the basic layout. You, sir, are a genius.

really you have been a light for long huh?

because you don't need to look at the wall to wall hop
you sprint strafe into the wall, like while your running move your left thumb stick toward the wall
press "A" and bam wall hop

the way you put it makes it really difficult and that means you have to learn the controls agian

i can see it if use the "Duty Calls" layout because it can get quiet cumbersome with the left thumb stick for sprint
but really all you have to do is strafe sprint into the wall jump, then BAM! wall hop

I guess everyone does it different, this just seemed most natural to me, personally. But when you start talking chain wall jumps and hitting ledges to climb, I think this works most effectively. I think this post helped clear some things up at any rate.

But, I've only been Light for 5 days...I'm a nub :dance:

If you want to wall jump into a specific mantle, you need to have full control of where you're looking. The wall jump might work fine, but if you can't turn the camera as you jump your guy isn't going to be looking at the ledge he needs to be grabbing.

why do you wanna turn your camera when you need to jump over something it just make your character just fall back down
and plus if it doesn't complete the jump i have the smart button as my safety net

i do all my moves manually it helps so much and its faster
so i really don't need the SMART button just only on occasions, i find it easier for me to do it manually

but to each his own i suppose

Hey, just saying..you don't have to hold it down. It's just a click I believe

We're not talking about jumping over something, we're talking about wall-jumping to ledges.

I have no issues with wall jumping and i use the claw style on default settings

This. We're also not talking about single wall jumps to no where. It's more complex multiple, successive jumps onto ledges or railings.

Everyone should watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0q14FZmfIo

I'm going to try this out when I go on later tonight, stupid GCSE's demanding my time for revision.

It's on Duty Calls... with what addition??? -confused face- D:

Just so you guys know, on the PS3, with similar base controls, you still don't need to remap the controls like you're suggesting so you can control your wallhops effectively - if you know where you're aiming, you can just push the left stick in the appropriate direction - when you hit jump, you'll automatically go in the direction your stick is telling the game to move.

Much easier, imo - but as I said, I'm on PS3. Someone on XBox want to test if it works there too? Also, you don't have to be facing the wall directly to sprint and jump into it - you can sprint diagonally, jump facing half-way towards where you're trying to get already, then wallhop while facing the direction you want to jump in.

Mistakes...
...sometimes, they're easy come, easy go.


so here you go.

For those who like the S.M.A.R.T button use the OP's layout but swap smart to RB and nades to (A), my Brink experience is forever changed...