Walled Cities... : V

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:20 am

So it's been confirmed from the interview here: http://www.gameswelt.de/videos/videoarticles/25709-The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Skyrim_-_Video_Interview_mit_Todd_Howard.html

Is this due to the technological limitations of the consoles? Any chance PC's won't have to deal with this crap? And, in my opinion, this is certainly crap. I hated that about Oblivion, all the cities had these massive walls around them, with loading screens. It was annoying, and felt pointless, aside from the technological issues that required the cities to be in separate cells.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:17 am

So it's been confirmed from the interview here: http://www.gameswelt.de/videos/videoarticles/25709-The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Skyrim_-_Video_Interview_mit_Todd_Howard.html

Is this due to the technological limitations of the consoles? Any chance PC's won't have to deal with this crap?

Mods.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:50 am

So it's been confirmed from the interview here: http://www.gameswelt.de/videos/videoarticles/25709-The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Skyrim_-_Video_Interview_mit_Todd_Howard.html

Is this due to the technological limitations of the consoles? Any chance PC's won't have to deal with this crap? And, in my opinion, this is certainly crap. I hated that about Oblivion, all the cities had these massive walls around them, with loading screens. It was annoying, and felt pointless, aside from the technological issues that required the cities to be in separate cells.

Prob due to the consoles, just wait for the inevitable mod that does away with this.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:29 am

Hasn't loaded for me yet, but does it say "walled cities" or "seperate worldspace"/"loading screen" in cities?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:02 pm

As said before mods will be your friend

and no it will not be any different in vanilla game 0 chance of that happening.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:38 am

Hasn't loaded for me yet, but does it say "walled cities" or "seperate worldspace"/"loading screen" in cities?

Loads in separate cells.

And is there even a mod that fixes this in OBlivion? If not I doubt there will be for Skyrim.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:27 am

As much as I'd love to see the PC version get an almost unfair advantage over consoles in this instance, it's not going to happen. I doubt Bethesda would take the time to separate each of the cells after console development completes, and rewrite scripts for dragons, events, and such in order for them to fit within their new locations. Also, Skyrim is supposed to be nearly equal on all platforms.

I'm sure a mod will come along soon enough after release to open the cities up though.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:15 pm

Loads in separate cells.

And is there even a mod that fixes this in OBlivion? If not I doubt there will be for Skyrim.

That's odd. I'm not sure how they're going to deal with things like Markarth being in a canyon.

EDIT: There is indeed an open cities mod

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:13 pm

I could of sword a while ago someone said that the cities were open

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:49 am

I've always played on consol so I've never quite understood what the entire deal with this is. Walled cities are seriously a large issue? I'm not trying to be rude I'm just curious as to whats wrong with it. :confused:

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:32 pm

Apparently there is a mod for Oblivion to put the cities into the "open world cell".

But still... I wish they would have waited for the "720"/PS4 now. Two games in a row now that the modders will have had to do something to make Beth';s games more PC friendly.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:30 am

Loads in separate cells.

And is there even a mod that fixes this in OBlivion? If not I doubt there will be for Skyrim.

Yes infact its called Open cities

quite frank I feel this is crap news, if cities are once again loaded in seperate world spaces.

Good bye Seamless Dragon attacks.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:13 am

So... does this mean that dragons won't be attacking the cities since they're separate cells?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:08 am

Separate cells =/= open world..

Last game I played that I can remember with an entirely open world was Gothic 1-3

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:26 am

I've always played on consol so I've never quite understood what the entire deal with this is. Walled cities are seriously a large issue? I'm not trying to be rude I'm just curious as to whats wrong with it. :confused:

It's not a big deal for me, but seamless transitions are always better.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:34 am

And is there even a mod that fixes this in OBlivion? If not I doubt there will be for Skyrim.

There's not just one, there's two.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16360
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33003

Technically, there's actually 3 if you count the "Toggle Open Cities" option for http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16513

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:21 am

There's not just one, there's two.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16360
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33003

Technically, there's actually 3 if you count the "Toggle Open Cities" option for http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16513

Well thats good to know it can be fixed.

I still say they should have just waited for the "720"/PS4 though. I really hate this.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:17 am

hold on in the trailer didnt we see one city?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:29 am

Well thats good to know it can be fixed.

I still say they should have just waited for the "720"/PS4 though. I really hate this.

We'd be waiting at least another 2 years for that. I couldn't handle it.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:26 am

the news has to be sketchy.....you don't WALL a city built in a cliff... I call Shenanigans.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:58 am

I've always played on consol so I've never quite understood what the entire deal with this is. Walled cities are seriously a large issue?

Not really. I think it's just one of those picky things that a vocal minority gets worked up about. :shrug:

(Honestly, it's even less of an issue on PC, since the loading times tend to be faster - load screens really don't register much unless you've got a truly crappy system.)

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:33 am

Well thats good to know it can be fixed.

I still say they should have just waited for the "720"/PS4 though. I really hate this.

Unless he's just svcking up to MS and Sony, the consoles are only holding the game back graphically.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:20 am

Ya.. I would hope Beth made the game on PC then downsized/ported to 360/PS3 everyones happy

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:28 am

Why?

It's called RAM. Consoles don't have a lot of it.

Not that big of a deal honestly, especially since it seems we'll be getting plenty of smaller towns that will be open.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:04 am

Ya.. I would hope Beth made the game on PC then downsized/ported to 360/PS3 everyones happy

even if they did make it for PC first the difference wont be that dramatic, becuase they want to get the game to as many people as they can, so they wouldnt want the game to strain lower level systems