I want a new race

Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:18 am

Why all this talk of playable Daedra? There are plenty of 100% Lore-friendly races they could add:

Subraces of Khajiit
Would completely fit. Plus, that means playing as sapient http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitlebwhmt6p47cy5 Note: I'm dead serious. Intelligent Khajiit that look like common house cats are in the lore.

Subraces of Argonians
Would also fit fine.

Imga
Ape men from Valenwood. They're likely very uncommon in other parts of Tamriel, but it it is not inconceivable that one ended up in Skyrim. Besides, who doesn't want to play as http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2271057920/tt0133152

Tsaesci
Snake men from Akavir. They served as advisors to the Emperor in the First Era and ruled Tamriel in the Second Era. Likely, they won't be attacked on sight like a Dremora or Sload, but won't be trusted either.

Tang Mo
Monkey people from Akavir. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitlefr5h9p9h6i92

Kamal
Some sort of intelligent snow creatures from Akavir. Unlikely, considering they freeze in the winter and Skyrim is a bit chilly.

Ka Po' Tun
Tiger people from Akavir. We already have cat people, but hey, we also have more than one type of human and elf.

Sload
Slug creatures from Thras. The least likely, considering that they would have to design too many new animations and armor just for them. Also, do you really want to play as http://images.uesp.net/thumb/9/91/Sload_big.jpg/280px-Sload_big.jpg

Ayleids
Also called wild elves. A few still exist, scattered throughout Tamriel. They'de probably be the least out of place, but we have enough damn elves already.

Maomer
Tropical elves from Pyandonea. Would also fit, but that's still too many elves for my taste.
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des lynam
 
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:27 am

as i have said in topics like this a new race is about as necessary as giving the adoring fan more hair gel. 10 is enough until we get off tamriel and go to akavir then sure we can throw in the whole zoo. if they really wanna add more races as playble the argonian and khajiit subraces would make things interesting and would still fit the continent
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Chris Johnston
 
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:18 am

Jeez, we have 10 races, most games have one to three races

EDIT: There should be race specific quest lines, so that replaying as a different race isnt just cosmetic
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:30 am

There are already 3 races I never play as and you wish yo add MORE?
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:57 am

There are already 3 races I never play as and you wish yo add MORE?

bosmer orc and imperial am i right?
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:44 am

The Imga prance around in capes and act like nobleman, it'd be cool to meet one, at least.
Like what happened with Yagrum.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:00 am

bosmer orc and imperial am i right?

Wow. :blink:
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:46 am

Wow. :blink:

damn im still good at reading people :P
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:01 am

damn im still good at reading people :P

What gave it away? My flamboyance? My Sharky good looks? Seriously, HOW DO YOU KNOW THESE THINGS?!
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:07 pm

What gave it away? My flamboyance? My Sharky good looks? Seriously, HOW DO YOU KNOW THESE THINGS?!

something tells me your more of an appearance oriented person and you dislike boring people or things yet you also dislike overly eccentric things like bosmer for instance.
im guessing you like either breton dunmer or altmer since you probably like to toss out the occasional fireball during a fight. and as for how do i know these things well ive always had a slight knack for figuring people out.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:11 am

something tells me your more of an appearance oriented person and you dislike boring people or things yet you also dislike overly eccentric things like bosmer for instance.
im guessing you like either breton dunmer or altmer since you probably like to toss out the occasional fireball during a fight. and as for how do i know these things well ive always had a slight knack for figuring people out.

Freud I presume?
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:33 am

Freud I presume?

nope intuition. never took psychology seemed to boring.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:58 am

nope intuition. never took psychology seemed to boring.

Alright PH.D Akaryu what are my 3 fav races and 3 least fav
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:32 pm

Alright PH.D Akaryu what are my 3 fav races and 3 least fav

havent seen enough posts by you to judge accurately but i assume one of your favorites is the nord race and you probably don't like altmer. as i said haven't seen enough of you to judge accurately.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:49 am

Ok so there is one race that we really should have i really want rat men I don't know why i just think they would be cool to play as

the only problem to it is that every race has somthing that their best at and they have filled up every skill that each race is good at so this new race would either be weaker or overpowered i dont agree with rat men because that seems like some ninja turtle stuff but im down with another race as long as its has the same power and isnt under or overpowered
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:07 am

the only problem to it is that every race has somthing that their best at and they have filled up every skill that each race is good at so this new race would either be weaker or overpowered i dont agree with rat men because that seems like some ninja turtle stuff but im down with another race as long as its has the same power and isnt under or overpowered

Think Skaven, not TMNT
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:55 am

havent seen enough posts by you to judge accurately but i assume one of your favorites is the nord race and you probably don't like altmer. as i said haven't seen enough of you to judge accurately.

Exact opposite.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:43 am

All races should be eliminated. SR should be populated with mutant cyborgs with guns and, uh, oh yeah, dragon shouts.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:49 am

All races should be eliminated. SR should be populated with mutant cyborgs with guns and, uh, oh yeah, dragon shouts.

Don't forget unicorns made of whip cream and chocolate!
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:40 pm

Rat men...?

What about the hungry Khajiit?
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:13 pm

Rat men...?

What about the hungry Khajiit?

The hungry Khajiit approves of the ratmen idea, it sounds tasteful.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:37 am

The hungry Khajiit approves of the ratmen idea, it sounds tasteful.

Yes and the dogmen agree with the khajiit gettting fat on ratmen.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:51 am

Im cool with 10 races, BUT imo it seems like 5 races
Humans, Argonians, Khajiit, Elves and Orcs and I dont mean to offend but Redguards are just Black imperials and besides Lore i dont really see a difference between Breton and Imperials. I also think Redguards, Dark Elves amd Orcs need to have a lore check up because all of them are the best warriors lore-wise

If they do need to add a racei think something like
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gomakemeasandwich.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/draenei-male-and-female-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gomakemeasandwich.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/re-launched-wow-galleries-anolysis-part-2-numbers-lie-sort-of/&usg=__C-KwamDZLKJeT4-T09x__Rh5zvE=&h=710&w=707&sz=95&hl=en&start=101&sig2=QLzyUheSEhYgIn-d0w45eA&zoom=1&tbnid=eGQ5CdpsaQrzCM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=126&ei=gtUOTqbbGYGCsQOL6-SMDg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddraenei%2Bart%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D587%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=105&page=5&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:101&tx=63&ty=53 in fact, i think http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D739612%26d%3D1249158623&imgrefurl=http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php%3Fp%3D2372824&usg=__d2AoF60psvCz89nDKy95KF-uX4Q=&h=800&w=574&sz=421&hl=en&start=0&sig2=8ORHjee4fipxG9o-N4RAjQ&zoom=1&tbnid=MNF5F-rYXQj_FM:&tbnh=140&tbnw=101&ei=0tcOTvuQEoa4sQPYr_CeDg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dall%2Braces%2Bin%2Bwow%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D587%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=3&page=1&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=39&ty=58 crated the best set of races known to gaming, Trolls Tauren, Gnomes, Dwarfs n all....BUT the races are fine if they could add more it would be cool...more beast races and monster races everyone seems too human and Elves its kinda lame
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:30 am

I find myself agreeing with you; It could be possible for events to have shaped the lore (in the past 200 years) such that dremora are not the hostile demons that we think of them as.

BUT, from the game-play perspective that you keep arguing, it simply wouldn't work out. Without a HUGE focus on explaining to returning players why dremora is a playable race in the beginning, you would find that people who have not actually lived through those 200 years of change have a preconceived notion of what a dremora is and how they act. For new players, it wouldn't be such a problem, but after the sales that oblivion made, and they support that Skyrim already has before release, I'd say most of the people who will play Skyrim have already played Oblivion (pure speculation there).

I completely understand both of your arguments, but I don't think that you could reasonably have them coming out as a playable character in TES:V. Perhaps, show the players in TES:V that dremora are nice now (or at least sane), and then you could get away with it in TES:VI. Otherwise, it's too jarring for anyone who payed attention to Oblivion and maybe even too much effort to explain.


No huge explanation is needed. Bethesda can simply add them and say it is a new option for the player. NPC's usually have reacted to the player based on things like personality and fame/infamy. This has been handled by game mechanics. So no new programming would be required.

Let me deal with this "lore" issue that keeps being brought up. If the only "good" dremora is the player character, then lore is not affected at all. To illustrate: There were 10 playable races and two genders of same in Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion. I finished the main quest with two different races represented. If we add in all players who played the main quest, then it is likely that all 10 races were represented. When the "official lore" of the Oblivion Crisis comes out (probably as in game books in TES V) the Champion of Cyrodill (if same even acknowledged) will either be one race and gender or they could be deliberately vague and give no specific about same. What any individual player does in their game has no effect on the so-called "official lore." Assuming commercial success for TES V and the doing TES VI, when they do the official lore (history) of the "Dovakiin" they either will have to pick one race and gender or be deliberately vague. It doesn't matter what race or type character any player picks to play vis a vis "official lore."

If there were other non-hostile dremora in game besides the player character, then that would need explanation (this could again be handled by an in game book to give the backstory) . These are relatively easy tweaks for a product coming out in a few months.

Here is another thing about Dremora compared to some other proposed races: If dremora are in the game in any form, then the graphics for them is already done. Adding a dremora as a playable option could be as simple as checking a box in the constuction set. Anything that would require major new script writing is proabably too late for them to make their street date in November. If they don't already have the graphics for dremora in game, then it would be too late to add them in (with any scripting) and do testing to make their street date. I have yet to see one objective reason why they should not be made a playable option (if they are already in game in some form).
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:05 pm

Honestly 10 races is more than enough
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