I said it would be good, not that it would happen. If they were to ever open end it, that would be the best way tho. Plus i was typing that when the post above me mentioned the one thing i forgot about, VA's thats what you where late on.

But its been established it wouldn't be good because it could mean they would have to rehire many voice actors, redo the entire map, and create so much content it would be the equivalent of a whole new game.

It seems that you didn't bother to actually READ what been posted here.

Erm... sir, may i refer you back to what Jason posted? He said that making the courier return later to the Mojave would be a good way to open end it, but they decided not to do it because people would complain that they lost all there quest.

Its not because they didn't have the money, they make more then enough money off the DLC's, or else they would not make them.

But we have dropped this topic, do not bring it up again, as it has already been said the game will not ever become open ended through DLC.

the whole point of this thread is to talk about playing after the final mission, of which i am doing. If that is no longer the topic then this thread needs to be closed.

You are the person who has gotten most off topic here so if anything drop YOUR unrelated topic and stick at the topic this thread was meant to serve.

Don't throw a fit, i was referring to drop the topic about why my idea won't work, even tho if people wouldn't complain 24/7 my idea might have actually been created. My idea will never come true, so we are done talking about it. In fact i see no point in this thread, as it will serve no purpose in the end.

You make valid points, and i can't say i disagree. I just would have liked to see that, i like seeing what my actions have done to change something. Thats the reason i liked Broken Steel, because you could see what your actions did.

I was really hoping we would get more then ending slides to see what our actions did, i like to walk amongst it. Not saying anything bad about that dude who narrated.

Now i am gonna go off topic for a second. The new Trophies are out and one peaked my interest, well 2 but i don't think i read one right.

The first one that peaked my interest was

Spinal-Tapped!


Wonder what that means? Possibly a new implant?

The second one that peaked my interest was
Make Up Your Mind

My thoughts on what this means

I agree that it does feel a bit weird when you've had so much control over everything during the game to them be told "and this is what happened after". Not that the ending slides aren't well planned, since you get dozens of unique messages, eg for companions if they died, didn't finish their quest line and for each of the options if they did finish it. And it does feel a bit weird that you can loot Lanius' unique items but never really get to use them (except against Oliver and his cronies).

Spinal-Tapped!


Wonder what that means? Possibly a new implant?

The second one that peaked my interest was
Make Up Your Mind

My thoughts on what this means


Those are only my assumptions and not an official this is what it means.

This thread is NOT about what you think things in Old World blues are, im looking at you Decimator and mr_eman. Please take that to the correct thread.

Sorry, and you are...?

We're being quite cautious with spoiler tags and there's been so little discussion so far as to warrant its own thread.

Now this I can respect and understand. Infact, theres really not much I can even argue with. If you cant do something the right way then dont do it at all... and thats all I really wanted someone to say. In my oppinion though, the dlc idea you came up with would be awesome and it would help wrap things up a bit more 'officially' than the slide shows (which are still bugged regarding a few side quests). I doubt thats going to happen though, but it would be cool.

Sorry, and you are...?

We're being quite cautious with spoiler tags and there's been so little discussion so far as to warrant its own thread.

I know that it has already been stated that there will not be an official dlc that lets the player continue the story after the final mission. The only question I have is why? Did Bethesda not learn its lesson from Fallout 3? Im just curious, after the fuss caused after Fallout 3, would it not have been something that would have had to come up in a conversation at some point during the development of New Vegas? Something like... "Hey they were kind of mad that we didnt let them continue playing last time, maybe we should this time" ...nothing like this came up? Does Bethesda not understand that people would pay double the price of their current dlc if they would just put in the time to finish the game the way it should have been finished?

I get it. I really do. It would take alot of work to open up the game the way it should be considering all the variables with the final quest. In some cases you would have to spread out Legion troops, others NCR. etc. etc. etc. You know what though? Its all an excuse.

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=42428

That is the work of one person. ONE PERSON is able to do what the entire team refuses to do at Obsidian.

Nobody wants to hold on to a save right before the final battle just to wait on dlc before finishing their game. It completely destroys immersion to do so. So why then is this still a viable option for an ending to an open world 'sand box' type game? How many games have made this mistake before and how many companies continue to do it? Argue with me all you want because you dont like change, I dont care. I know for a fact that the majority of the people that play Fallout would appreciate a dlc that opened the game back up to them alot more than some stupid trip to yet another casino or filler content such as ARMORED SCORPIONS (YAY?).

Bethesda didn't learn their lesson after Fallout 3?

What lesson is that? Everyone complained that the game ended and you couldn't continue so, they release Broken Steel and everyone slates it.

The only lesson to be learned on these forums is you can't please anyone on here ever, it's a forum full of Fallout fans apparently yet, I never see a good thing written about any of the games, apart from the early ones.

If I had the money Bethesda had I'd buy the rights to fallout like they did but then I'd just sit on it. Wouldn't make any games and I'd let the series fade away. Maybe it would teach poeple to get a grip and stop crying about them on here all the time.

I used to like this forum once upon a time...

I wasn't crying, i said it would be nice, and gave a reasonable way they could set it up, so that it didn't interfere with the ending slides, as it said the Courier may return to the Mojave, so then the DLC would take you 15 years after the events that happened, and the Courier comes back. The map changes depending on what you did, and its possible as clarified by Jason Bergman.

The reason they decided not to do it, is because they were afraid people would get mad that they lost all there quest and then they would whine. News flash, its gonna happen either way, and its called just re load your saved game, or don't get the DLC, its not gonna harm anyone.

This is why i don't understand why people complain, no matter what your not gonna get exactly what you want, unless you mod it on a PC. Thats why Bethesda makes a big deal over modding, its why they allow the modding as most games don't. Fallout is such a big game and Bethesda or Obsidian can't do it all, so they allow you to mod, if you have the luxury of a top o the line computer.

I think getting it for computer is worth it, if you have a good computer. I am getting a computer this year for Christmas and plan on getting both Skyrim, and New Vegas for it. Thats also after i buy Skrim and New Vegas for my PS3. I enjoy Bethesda's game engine, and i enjoy the mods i have seen. Buying the game twice is well worth it.

there's like 5 other OWB threads about these very topics.

The use of spoilers tags doesn't change the fact you should stick to the threads topic or go to another thread to talk about something else.

This thread is about playing after the main campaign is over not OWB theories, go use one of the OWB thread if you want to discuss that.

If your not going to bother to follow forum rules why are you on the forums in the first place?

The title only states "I want to play after the Final Mission" Who says we don't have PC's and have the play after the final mission mod? So maybe where talking about things after the final mission? Didn't think about that did you.

Here you go, that's them saying explicitly that it is too much damn work (among other things). If that is not enough of an explanation for you, then sorry. I honestly don't think the backlash towards this game's ending is enough warrant an expansion to extend it, because the backlash has only been some people on the internet asking why there is an ending.

Also, that mod isn't all that impressive at it's current stage and what the author is promising to do later will be just that, MUCH later and they wouldn't possibly be able to do it alone. Mods like that are often abandoned.

As a side note, your argument that DLC should be included in the base game makes no sense. They are for all intents and purposes games within a game and completely out of scope considering the base game, and it's not like they were all complete before the game released anyway. So why exactly do you think they should be in vanilla New Vegas?

Considering the Original Poster made it perfectly clear he was talking about the Final Mission of the base game, that's what this topic was about. Your TERRIBLE world play wont save you.

Maybe if you had FOLLOWED the THREAD you would have know this thread was made to talk about the final mission of the BASE game.