Strange, can't remember it.
Still, cutting of a limb would make things way more enjoyable.
People want realistic?
Then let it be realistic.
Gore is one of the first things on my realism list.

All good points so far. Aside from the nagging reasons why some people like gore and some don't, the best argument for it not working gameplay-wise is because of the leveling system. However, there are many good arguments for why it should/could be in the game.

First off, a point in reply to Summer's posts about the gore not having been in other TES games. Read through The Infernal City. It is canon. It was written under the direction and guidance of Todd Howard, Pete Hines, Bruce Nesmith, Kurt Kuhlmann etc. That book vividly illustrates the amount of gore I would expect to see in the TES universe. Obviously the developers agreed, otherwise the book would not have the detailed gory description of combat, death, and bodies that it does.

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I suppose what it comes down to is that I expect Bethesda to take as much liberty as they can get away with and still keep it M-rated. I mean, remember what happened to Lucien Lachance in Oblivion?? When you saw what was done to him, didn't you get the point that Bethesda really wanted you to be shocked?? I know I did. And I certainly wouldn't have been nearly as horrified and enthralled by that story if he had just been comfortably laying on the floor like a doll. I think Skyrim will surprise us with how brutal it can really be, based on what the devs have done before.....

It does seem to be what they're advocating for, whether or not they realize it.

I It will not increase my enjoyment but may detract from it depending on it's level/implementation, if it goes too far I find it becomes cheesy and boring.

This thread is for realistic gore. Not cheesy amounts. Too little is just as cheesy as too much.

i was impressed by the way npc's reacted to being wacked in the gameplay trailer- but then when i looked closely i noticed that wounds did NOTHING to the body!!! yes its nice that the undead thing's head bent backwards when the players axe went to his face- but the head bent back BEFORE IMPACT, and NO DAMAGE WAS VISIBLE!!!


this is a game were I am going to be up close and personal VERY often, and i will notice this very much up close. i will not be happy when i find out that my savage looking Axe doesn't actually go inside my opponent!!!!


what VALVe did to make l4d2's system would work very well with skyrim. in l4d a zombie can be shot,cut or blown up. if shot A model of the zombie's insides is created inside of the zombie and the part that was hit becomes transparent. if slashed then a gash model would apear. severing arms/legs and parts of the head was done pretty well too. http://www.valvesoftware.com/publications/2010/gdc2010_vlachos_l4d2wounds.pdf l4d2 did this over the top (in terms or realism, i found it cool that gibs were everywhere), but i am sure skyrim can do it right. it NEEDS TO DO IT RIGHT!!!!.


i want creatures to receive wounds whilst living!!! i should be able to cut a zombie's face in half, cut his arm off, cut his chest open and smother him in fire AS I DO THAT!!!! i don't want opponents to have no gibs until the last blow!!!
i want creatures to have their own gib systems! i would like dremora to have black bones and ash or oil instead of blood, i would like trolls to get wounded rather than having unbleeding skin simply because bethesda were to lazy to make a separate gore thing for them!!!!
i want things to react differently to being dismembered. a person should scream in horror and become immobile with pain whilst an undead or daedra would laugh off their chest imploding under a mace. healers should tend to wounded
i want REALISM!!!! i dont want someones chest exploding when i put an arrow into it (unless i enchant it). i want clouds of blood to come off such a deep wound when underwater, i want the wound to apear EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD IN REAL LIFE!!!!

VIDEO GAME...with enphasis in GAME.

This thread is for realistic gore. Not cheesy amounts. Too little is just as cheesy as too much.

Is it actually realistic to be able to be able to severe limbs.

Yes, and everyone wants games to be more realistic. Just because this particular item doesn't fall on your list of priorities doesn't mean that it shouldn't get any attention. By that logic they would just use Oblivion's combat system, because there's no need for improvement since it's a game, right?

Its not about my priorities, or anyone's. Game development its not just putting your infantile desires into a computer and live them in some sick obsessive-cathartic ritual.

I find it incredibly absurd for somebody to go into a fit saying "I cant believe Bethesda is so stupid that they dont realize that when you get slashed by a sword, you can actually see the cut in your body! Are they morons!!!!!".

VIDEO GAME. Use it as a mantra for meditation. VIDEO GAME. One thing is realism, another is realism IN games (meaning realism that adds to GAMEplay. See how game is emphasized in the word gameplay?)

Yes, it is.

I've read enough posts that dispute this.

You've read reality altering posts?

Pretty sure he's talking about the fact it's not that easy to whack someones head off with a blade or any limb. I mean if everyone I fought was naked and wore no clothing it would be easier and they stood still.

I'm sorry that you haven't been able to follow this thread. No one has accused Bethesda of being idiots. Do you have someone else reading this for you and they told you that? The way you're getting worked up must seems to indicate you're taking this thread personally.

One of the purposes of having these forums is to allow the community to voice their desires for this game. Sorry you don't understand that.

People have essentially said people are stupid if they don't like gore in games. That's a simple fact (it happens every time this comment comes up, as if wanting to see gore is some kind of bizarre mark of maturity). I personally like options, even if I don't want to see gore myself.

He asked if it was realistic that it could happen. It ease. The ease of doing so is another matter. Never said it should happen in every fight. Just about never when fighting an armored opponent. But it is definitely within the realm of reason to expect to have some dismemberment once in awhile.

I played Oblivion on PC and Xbox, there was very little of the blood effect on objects compared to PC. Almost every fight I have some on me, the ground, or my weapon. I have hit mudcrabs and then there is a 5 foot long blood spatter on the ground. This is with vanilla setting no mods as well.

I don't care about gore, I have seen enough in real life and enough in video games. It doesn't bother me the slightest, however since alot of this thread is about who does and who doesn't like gore. I wouldn't care if limbs came off realistically, if we could kick down our enemy and then pin them to the ground with a sword and then whack off their head with an axe, would be fine with me(hence I am not against gore). I just think this level of realism where every swing adds damage to a targets body to show cuts from each blade swing is way to much just to try and convey realism in a game.

Main reason why I personally want gore is to add depth to the game.
Now, someone probably thinks how can gore do something like that.
Well, I who's main guild is Dark Brotherhood, find killing always somehow lacking.
Deaths never had any weight to them since it felt as if I were knocking down bags of wheat instead of killing someone.
Kinda really disappointing experience if you ask me.
Death and killing should have more weight to them so people know what they did and when they see someones chest ripped out by their axe some of them will think twice before killing again since art of death and killing doesn't affect us all equally.

Funny thing, all the insults seem to be coming from the anti-gore people in this thread.

That is absolutely untrue. I'm not going to re-read the whole thread but it's very common to see things implying people are "girls" or "kiddies" or whatnot if they don't want gore. There are several gore threads though so I might be confusing it with another.

Obviously there will be people that lack the maturity to discuss it civilly on both sides of the issue (such it is for humanity) but it's hardly one sided and the insults are very common from the pro-gore crowd. This is true in general on not just on these boards. I dare you to search for threads merely asking if you can disable Fallout 3's gore. Most of them get flooded by people that have nothing helpful to say, and you will usually find a handful of posts from people directing the person asking to the mods that disable the gore.